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TheScouser101   03-25-2008 at 07:41:31 PM

Hi

Im getting the following card
Inno3D 8600GT 1GB DDR2 128bit VGA PCI-e

Do i need to get a new power supply with a 6 pin PCI-e cable on it or does this card not need one ?

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crusoe74   03-25-2008 at 08:16:12 PM
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TheScouser101 wrote :

Hi

Im getting the following card
Inno3D 8600GT 1GB DDR2 128bit VGA PCI-e




Why would you get that card with 1GB memory?

In answer to your question, you shouldn't need a 6 Pin PCIe cable

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monst0r   03-25-2008 at 08:47:04 PM
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i bet for the price you paid for it you could have gotten a cheap 8800gs or similar...next time please don't fall for company's marketing gimmicks (1GB). That card won't be able to take advantage of it because of the 128bit bus and DDR2 memory. hopefully you could return it and get a 88xx series or 3850 or something?

to answer your question, it shouldn't need an additional power source.

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TheScouser101   03-25-2008 at 08:56:16 PM
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The reason i chose it was that it was within my budget and it seemed the best card i could get for the price

Cheapest 8800 i could see was £105
Cheapest 3850 i could see was £100
The 8600 1gb was only £67

My budget is £70

If anyone can see a better card on ebuyer for £70 im open to suggestions.

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MrMr   03-25-2008 at 09:08:25 PM
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At the minimum, gert the 512\256 8600GT GDDR3.


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TheScouser101   03-25-2008 at 09:17:26 PM
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Cheapest 512 i can see is

XFX 8600GTS 512MB GDDR3 which is £112 and too much

There is a 256 ddr3 version of the 8600 that is only £50 , would that be better than the 1gb version for games like Oblivion and Crysis ?

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MrMr   03-25-2008 at 09:19:11 PM
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zotac-GeFo [...] 09&sr=8-44 £69.99

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mactronix   03-25-2008 at 09:31:51 PM
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TheScouser101 wrote :

Cheapest 512 i can see is

XFX 8600GTS 512MB GDDR3 which is £112 and too much

There is a 256 ddr3 version of the 8600 that is only £50 , would that be better than the 1gb version for games like Oblivion and Crysis ?



Ok main question now is what res do you play at because the 256 will be ok up to about a 19 inch screen but thats around where you ideally want 512.
Mactronix

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TheScouser101   03-25-2008 at 09:36:18 PM
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I play games on 22" LCD , resolution 1280 x 800 or 1024 x 768.

Is DDR3 so much quicker than DDR2 that its best to get a 256mb card than a 1gb card ?

I should have added that i dont get the chance to upgrade much, probably be 18 months before i upgrade next.

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crusoe74   03-25-2008 at 09:37:38 PM
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TheScouser101 wrote :

There is a 256 ddr3 version of the 8600 that is only £50 , would that be better than the 1gb version for games like Oblivion and Crysis ?



1Gb won't help you in Crysis, it simply won't be able to run at the resolutions where you may need extra memory. The GDDR3 version will be quicker. Frankly 512Mb is overkill on the 8600GT for modern games

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monst0r   03-25-2008 at 10:06:19 PM
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crusoe74 wrote :

1Gb won't help you in Crysis, it simply won't be able to run at the resolutions where you may need extra memory. The GDDR3 version will be quicker. Frankly 512Mb is overkill on the 8600GT for modern games



agreed, i would personally take the GDDR3 version over DDRII because of this. get that 256 gddr3 version :bounce:

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Shadow703793   03-25-2008 at 10:14:23 PM
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^Agreed. Unless the OP is working with CAD or some thing smiler go with the 256 DDR3 version. If the OP is doing some CAD he will benefit from the more space than raw speed.

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mactronix   03-25-2008 at 10:29:19 PM
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TheScouser101 wrote :

I play games on 22" LCD , resolution 1280 x 800 or 1024 x 768.

Is DDR3 so much quicker than DDR2 that its best to get a 256mb card than a 1gb card ?

I should have added that i dont get the chance to upgrade much, probably be 18 months before i upgrade next.



Sorry but you really do seem to be in no mans land on this one. You ideally want a GDDR3 512. (But we know that's a non starter) Your chosen card amounts to a marketing gimmick I'm afraid. It has too much ram to be usable and too little power to use it. Given the choice yes the GDDR3 card would be your better option. Here is a good article comparing the GDDR types. http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=g [...] ticID=630.
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vochtige   04-04-2008 at 05:52:12 PM
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i have an asus 8600GT, 256mb i run at max 1280X1024 res. i play all my games maxt out. and play it with my old p4 630 and 2 gb ddr2 533mhz. fps's are oke! between 35-90. every game! but, with that card i couldn't play crysis at more than 15 fps mid/low settings, no AA 1024res. if you really want to play crysis and newer games, don't buy that 8600! the card really sucks in future games! the latest game i can play is cod4. if you can, and save some more money buy a 9600GT or 8800GS/GT

greetings

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homerdog   04-04-2008 at 06:48:52 PM
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Why do card manufacturers feel the need to release these marketing gimmick cards? It isn't going to help them in the long run. When the sucker who buys an 8600GT with 1GB of DDR2 memory plugs it in and finds modern games choppy or unplayable said buyer will go buy an Xbox and never worry about GPUs again.

I wish Nvidia would ban these cards from production, or at least have their availability significantly scaled back.

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two bit hit   04-04-2008 at 07:46:50 PM
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To answer the question that you asked, no it won't need a power connector. Yes, 1GB is a gimmick up to more expensive cards, but don't worry about it, it won't do any harm.

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sprucebr1   04-04-2008 at 08:24:53 PM
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I agree, 1GB on a 8600GT is a waste. Go with the 8600GT 256MB GDDR3. This card plays games like UT3 just fine. Though this card will not play Crysis well at all. The best solution might be to save some more money and get a 8800GT or 9600GT both 512MB GDDR3. That would be my solution.

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homerdog   04-04-2008 at 09:07:22 PM
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two bit hit wrote :

To answer the question that you asked, no it won't need a power connector. Yes, 1GB is a gimmick up to more expensive cards, but don't worry about it, it won't do any harm.


Having 1GB won't do any harm, but DDR2 will inflict a signficant performance penalty in comparison to the vastly superior GDDR3. As has been stated multiple times already, 256MB GDDR3 > 1GB DDR2.

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FrozenGpu   04-04-2008 at 09:12:31 PM
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TheScouser101 wrote :

Hi

Im getting the following card
Inno3D 8600GT 1GB DDR2 128bit VGA PCI-e

Do i need to get a new power supply with a 6 pin PCI-e cable on it or does this card not need one ?



the newbs are attacking.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Shadow703793   04-04-2008 at 10:00:31 PM
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Why did you all just revive about a 2-3 weeks old thread?!?

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two bit hit   04-04-2008 at 11:40:25 PM
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Quote :

Having 1GB won't do any harm, but DDR2 will inflict a signficant performance penalty in comparison to the vastly superior GDDR3. As has been stated multiple times already, 256MB GDDR3 > 1GB DDR2.



I missed that bit. My bad.

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