i already have a 780I should i get the Q9450 or just go with the E8500 (using for gaming and maybe some 3d model design) but Gaming Overall.
Yes, Q9450 will run fine on that board. You might need to update bios though.
Q9450 would certainly be better than E8500, especially after more quad optimized applications came out (there are few of them at the moment). But it'd cost more, so it's not a fair comparasion. Keep in mind 780i runs at 1333mhz fsb natively, and oc reliably to 1600mhz, which is 3.2ghz oced for Q9450.
Yes, Granite3 you are correct. Both the 680i and 650i chipsets now offer support for the new Penryn CPU family (dual and quad core). Most of the motherboard manufacturers have released new BIOS revisions that allow for recognition of the new CPU microcoding. Tomshardware had the unfortunate timing of conducting an extensive study into this very issue BEFORE most of the motherboard manufacturers had their new BIOS revisions ready for release. Their original findings are no longer valid.
I am running a Xeon X3350 (Q9450 clone) in an eVGA 780i SLI motherboard and a E3110 running in an Asus 650i SLI P5N-E motherboard. Zero problems thus far and I have run extensive benchmarks (3DMark06 looping for several hours, and Prime95 running for several hours). Rock solid stable. Both systems recognized the CPU immediately and proceeded to boot into windows normally. The only catch was that the first time I booted up the Vista OS installs (64-bit Ultimate and 64-bit Home Premium) required a restart after new CPU drivers were installed. No big deal. The system restarted and all was well.
And no dagger, I have read several hardware forum posts will validated screen shots showing the Q9450 and X3350 CPUs overclocked easily to 3.8 Ghz will only minor voltage bumps. Please do your homework before posting "bad poop" on forums...
3.8ghz on 8x multiplier with 680i or even 780i will not happen under normal conditions. "Extreme" setups are not useful if it can't be duplicated in the home. 1600mhz fsb is reliable oc, all 780i and p35 chipset boards should be able to hit it. Anything above is hit and miss, and shouldn't be counted on.
Please do not deceive people into overestimating the capacities of chipsets based on unrealistic pro setups.
Where's YOUR proof that the 780i chipset can't overclock Penryn CPUs past 1600Mhz dagger??
There is no proof that it can't do more than 1600mhz fsb, but there is also no proof that x38/48 can't do more than 2000mhz. Most can, but the worst model among them cannot. It's just above those speeds, successful oc is not guaranteed. "Reliable oc" means basically guaranteed oc, that can be duplicated time and time again on different setups. "Extreme oc" are those done by pros that cannot be duplicated at home.
For hardware buying purposes, reliable oc is the only one to count on. If it does better, good, if it doesn't, it's to be expected.
People who ask for advices here don't care for your boasting of your favorite brand. They only want good, reliable advice, concerning specs that can be counted on no matter what. You're here for yourself and your own ego, not to help others, please go away. I've wasted enough time on you.
Oh, I see. So your whole problem was that what you think is what the rest of the world should think too. Ahhhh. Now I understand your ignorance. lol I hate to tell you that overclocking the 780i beyond 1600Mhz FSB IS THE NORM and CAN be duplicated RELIABLY EVERYTIME. So you go away. I have my facts straight and you have your opinion wrong. NUFF SAID!!
Fanboys like you are here for your own ego, and provide free advertisement for your favorite brand, not to help others. When the people you give your ill advices to can't reach the speed you claimed, where would you be?