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My E3110 is showing as 70c for the core temperatures in CoreTemp, Hardware Monitor, Everest, etc.

Realtemp shows both sensors' movements at 0 or 1 (and 60c for core temps).

BIOS shows 30c idle temp for the cpu (DTS sensor).

Running prime95 does not increase the core temperatures at all (they ALWAYS stay between 72c-75c). It does, however, show an increase in the CPU (DTS sensor) temp from about 30c to 39c-40c.

I have a Zalman 9700 LED installed using AS 5.

Are the two core temperature sensors stuck? What are the chances of both of them being faulty? And does Intel warranty cover this? Thanks.

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amdfangirl wrote :

Wasn't there something wrong with the 45nm core temp sensors



Actually it was with the E8400 only. And to tell you the truth what was happening with that, from what I have read, was the programs would end up reading the temp wrong since they were not yet calibrated to the new DTS sensor.

For the OP, did you try speedfan? Cuz at a temp of 70c it would more than likely start throttling or even shut down. I have a Q6600 @ 3GHz with the same HSF and mine will only hit 50c when I use Prime95. Might just be that Coretemp is too old. Do you have the latest version?

Might also be that that chip is a Xeon and not a C2Q so it might not be set to read it right.


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I have seen reports of the core temp sensors on the new 45nm chips not working.
Also, I believe the e3110 and the e8xxx series are essentially the same die.


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I'm running with an E3110 as well. It only goes to 70c when I OC and run OCCT for some minutes.

Running OCCT now (no OC in idle) it shows temps at 43c and 39c while it shows 29c in AI suite/PC probe thingie. Same in SpeedFan around the 28-30c.
Just using Cooler Master Hyper TX2 on my CPU.

The thing is that even when it says 70c the cpu cooler is still cold to the touch, so I don't know.

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Darron wrote :

The thing is that even when it says 70c the cpu cooler is still cold to the touch, so I don't know.


Sounds to me like there is bad heatsink-CPU contact. That would explain the cold heatsink, because it isn't drawing the heat away from the CPU. You should reseat your cooler.

@demise14: Intel's warranty won't cover faulty sensors because at no time and in no place did they guarantee that the sensors will work. The only sensor that they care about is the IHS sensor or TCase (often called "CPU" in speedfan), which is always lower than the core temps. There's a reason they don't give out alot of details regarding maximum core temperatures.


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Darron wrote :

The thing is that even when it says 70c the cpu cooler is still cold to the touch, so I don't know.

I'm not saying this isn't a DTS problem, but you can't base the CPU temp on the HS temp, quite the opposite. The stock HS push pin mounting system is complete crap. If the pins are not securely locked in place the HS won't make proper contact with the CPU. The result is that the CPU can't transfer the heat to the HS. So the CPU gets hotter than he!! and the HS remains cool.

 

Of course this is completely unrelated to the wonky temps that some of the 45nm CPUs are reporting, even when using an aftermarket HS. It's just something to check if you have the stock HS.

 

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So I guess my main question is: Is it possible that these programs can be showing the correct core temperatures? I've reinstalled the HSF numerous times using different pastes, reverted back to the stock HSF (which gives 45c idle temps on the DTS sensor), and my case has very good cooling.

Any other way to test the core temperatures? I installed Speedfan and played around with it for a minute. The only temperature it showed was the DTS sensor (which seems to fine at the moment).

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Check to see if there's an update for your bios. They may have a beta to try out.

I saw another thread on this and saw Gigabyte had beta bios for wolfdales, and the latest had yorkies. So you never know, could be a bios thing. :D

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^ I've already updated to F3 bios.

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Take the heatsink off, clean both the surface of the CPU and the Surface of the Heatsink, reapply a bit of thermalpaste, just a pea size if not smaller, then give it a whirl that way.

Make sure the Heatsink is really on there.. nice and tight

If you already did this, then sorry lol

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If it was me, I would put a quality aftermarket HS, with a back plate, on there and if the temps didn't come down then at least I wouldn't have to worry about the stock HS pins. IMO don't get an aftermarket HS with the push pins.

Additionally, CompuTronix updated his guide to get a better handle on the CPU temperature of offset, read it.

Core 2 Quad and Duo Temperature Guide

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It only goes that high when I OC it though, so no biggie for my normal use.
I did clean both cpu and cooler using isopropylalcohol 99% (I'm a Dane, so might spell differently in US/UK) and I'm 100 % the cooler sits correctly.
I used Arctic Silver 3 on it.
I'll take it apart and have a look tomorrow and post back :)


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Zorg wrote :

If it was me, I would put a quality aftermarket HS, with a back plate, on there and if the temps didn't come down then at least I wouldn't have to worry about the stock HS pins. IMO don't get an aftermarket HS with the push pins.

Additionally, CompuTronix updated his guide to get a better handle on the CPU temperature of offset, read it.

Core 2 Quad and Duo Temperature Guide



Um he is using a Zalman CPNS9700 which uses a bolt through backplate and a screw system to mount the HSF on the backplate thingy. I know cuz I have one. And trust me its hard not to have that thing on properly.

I still think the should get the most recent version of CoreTemp and try SpeedFan.


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Oops, I see it now.

Yeah, the Zalman with the backplate is probably properly mounted. I wouldn't take it back off to check, just leave it alone. The problem that the you are having is probably the offset which is addressed in the temp guide.

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