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March 17, 2008 1:29:12 AM

So basically I'm planning on selling my old rig to finance part of my new one.
I want this to be a very fast, VERY QUIET machine...(near futureproof, i know it doesnt exist but still :p )

Proposed Rig:
Case: Antec 900 or Xclio Windtunnel. I like the second case, just not sure how reliable it is, since everyone seems to like the 900 so much.

Processor: QX6700: 1066 FSB (I heard 1333FSB was bad?)... You can find them on eBay for half the price of retail (new) which is what I'm planning on doing, to save my wallet :p  (Oh please keep in mind I have absolutely no idea what FSB is... just that someone in my game told me to go with something else if possible)
*edit* is a Q9550 better than the QX6700? Also I just found THIS on eBay... thoughts?

OS: Vista 64? I plan on getting an 8800GTX so i figured I needed a DX10 OS? Probably get an OEM disk from newegg Sound good?

GFX Card: 8800 GTX (don't care who makes it really) though I do like eVGA :) 

Memory: Since I'll be running Vista64 I know I'll need at *least* 4gb ram... my question is should I go with 8gb? My limited knowledge of hardware has recently been enlightened enough to know that ram slots on mobos are called DIMMs correct? Well most mobos are "dual channel" so I'm not sure I can fill all 4 slots or not (ie if theres 2 orange and 2 yellow put 2x2gb in each =8? or just 4...) I don't know if it would recognize both. I realize they need to be the same ram per color, but it would be uniform anyway, I just don't know if it would work. I have no problems goin with 8gb, just need to make sure I can buy 2 sets of 2x2gb dual channel and have it work, or at least buy the correct item (I suppose the mobo would have to be changed as well if this isn't the case). Example of what I mean... 2 sets of THESE

Mobo: Not too picky, but let me know if you don't like this one :)  Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 It says it can support 8gb of RAM...

Hard Drive(s): OS will be installed on my high capacity storage drive, probably a 500gb+ 7200RPM drive. Games will be installed on a Raptor most likely, unless you guys have some objections. I play MMOs and loading is sometimes everything...(for pvp) Again let me know if I've messed up my plans :) 

PSU (80% Energy Efficient): PC Power & Cooling 640 watt Is this enough power for what I need?

Sound Card: Creative Pro out of the current rig (it has onboard 5.1 already)

CPU Heatsink/fan: Zalman 9500

I'll throw in a DVD burner combo drive as well but that's not as important as the biggies.

Thanks in advance for your input. I should also mention that I did indeed build this computer I'm on now... It was the first one I ever have and it was a major pain in the butt! (I loved building it but this case made me want to shoot myself) NZXT meh. I've never set up SATA so I hope it won't be too hard :D 

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March 17, 2008 1:40:45 AM

On the video cards, depending what your gonna pay for that card, consider 2 8800 gt's in sli. I wonder if that would do better?
March 17, 2008 3:14:12 AM

No, I have SLI now and hate it... no games support it... MMOs at least.
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March 17, 2008 4:08:50 AM

Here's copy of a build that I put together recently, but will give you an idea on a $1k build. The prices change daily so you will see differences in pricing than what I've listed.

Okay here it goes. This will give you plenty of power for now and give you good GPU power for the $.

CPU - $250
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad-Core Processor 2.4GHz, 1066FSB, LGA775, 8MB cache Retail ***Free Shipping***
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Prod [...] Code=80864

Mobo - $98 - $30 MIR = $68!! One of the best budget p35 mobo's out there.
ABIT IP35-E LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813127031

GPU - $277 - $30 MIR = $307!! You can upgrade within 90 days using the "Step Up" program, if you want to get the latest GPU. Limited Lifetime Warranty!
EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130325

PSU - $120 - $20 MIR = $100!!! One of the best PSU's you can get in this price range. Has plenty of connections for your upgrade needs! Has 5 yr. warranty too!
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC, CCC - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139005

Memory - $107 - $15 MIR = $92!! Cheap and fast CAS 4 DDR2. Allows you to upgrade to 8gb's later, if you like.
Patriot Viper 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820220293

HD - $100!! You'll enjoy the extra space. If you need more, just buy more now or just buy another HD later.
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136073

DVD Burner - $29 shipped!! This is the retail version, so you can view/burn DVD's, because the software is included!
PHILIPS 2-Tone 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827248008

Case - $57 shipped! One of the better budget cases out there. Currently there aren't any really good steals, so this is what I found. I'd go for a Antec 900 or Cooler Master 690 case, if they were on sale. They usually are around $60-70 when they are on sale, so consider those when they hit the sales rack!
COOLER MASTER CAC-T05-UB Centurion 5 Mid Tower Case (Blue) Retail
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Prod [...] ode=141783

Total ~$1,023 - $95 MIR's = $928!!! Not bad for under $1k. You can obviously find better deals if you go hunting for them, but these are from reputable online vendors, so take that into consideration. Newegg seems to have the best customer service, but doesn't always have a good price on things, so shop around before you purchase.
March 17, 2008 4:26:34 AM

I did read that thread, however I am looking for something a bit more in the performance section :) 
March 17, 2008 6:30:32 AM

What is your budget than? The one that I have submitted is a pretty good gaming rig. You could upgrade the GPU to a 3870x2, upgrade the case to a Antec 900 (which is now $80 after MIR!!!). You could also change the mobo and CPU out also, but it depends on what your wanting to spend. I think this a generally a pretty sound deal, but to each his own.
March 17, 2008 11:52:16 PM

Really I just need information on RAM I think... because I don't know what I have to have with the current mobo I have selected to get 8gb (whether i need 2x4gb or if i can go 4x2gb
March 18, 2008 12:59:58 AM

Since this board supports a maximum of 8gig of memory, and has 4 slots, the slots are limited to 2gig each. The manual does not specify what size the board supports in each slot, but I bet if you want 8gig it will have to be the 4x2 set.
The manual simply states "maximum 8 gig supported by way of 4 memory slots"
March 18, 2008 1:34:43 AM

Cool thanks
March 18, 2008 4:08:51 AM

Do not buy a CPU off ebay, especially a high dollar one.
March 18, 2008 4:27:48 AM

agreed. dont buy from ebay.

second. get the 9700zalman cooler.
March 18, 2008 5:25:35 AM

I would suggest the q6600 and an arctic freezer 7 pro for cooling..
Very reliable and will allow ocing the quad considerably1
the rest of the system looks quite good!

Unfortunately can't comment on the ram never even considered more than 4 gigs...lol
March 19, 2008 1:10:21 AM

chuckm said:
Get this cooler, it's whippin' butt and takin' names;
http://www.jab-tech.com/Xigmatek-HDT-S1283-Heat-pipe-Di...

Here's a good review of the the Xigmatech CPU cooler here:
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=223...
It is almost as good as the TRUE 120mm cooler at about 2/3 the cost. You can decide if this fits your budget, but it's one good cooler for the money. If you can't afford it than I'd get the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro.

You can also buy this at the egg here:
$44 shipped!
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$22.71 shipped!!!
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Fan For Intel CPU
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-AC7PRO
March 19, 2008 4:55:33 AM

Cool... I would prefer to get an extreme quad processor as I don't really want to have to upgrade my computer for... another 2-5 years or so.

The Xigmatek looks nice, I mainly picked the Zalman because its rated as very quiet but efficient as well.

having looked at the reviews for this heatsink I notice that with the case I've chosen they say it rubs against the side fan, not sure thats good
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