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Xeon x3360 vs Q9550 lightly explained

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April 14, 2008 4:11:20 AM

Quad-Core Intel® Xeon® Processor X3360
Processor Number X3360
Process Technology 45 nanometer technology
L2 Cache 12MB
L3 Cache NA
Clock Speed 2.83 GHz
Front Side Bus 1333 MHz
System Type NA
Other Intel Technologies
Intel® Virtualization Technology,
EIST,
Intel® 64,
Execute Disable Bit,
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology
Package FC-LGA8
Server Chipset 3200, 3210
Workstation Chipset NA

Server Boards NA
Memory Type DDR2
Server Systems NA
Server Chassis NA
Server Compute Blades NA
Carrier Grade Servers NA
Pin Count 775-land
sSpec Number NA
Power 95W

Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9550
Processor Number Δ Q9550
Architecture 45 nanometer technology
L2 Cache 12M
L3 Cache N/A
Clock Speed 2.83 GHz
Front Side Bus Speed 1333 MHz
Other Intel Technologies
Intel® 64,
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology,
Quad-Core,
Intel® VT±,
Intel® TXT
Package FC-LGA8
Chipset
G33 Express Chipset,
G35 Express chipset,
P35 Express chipset,
Q33 Express chipset,
Q35 Express chipset,
X38 Express chipset

Memory Type DDR2, DDR3
Boards NA
Slot/Socket Type LGA775
Pin Count 775-land
sSpec Number SLAN4

As you can see the difference is that the xeon has support for server chipsets and has no support for DDR3. The chipsets anyway most likely. The Xeon does not have any support for desktop chipsets. At least according to that. Other than the official chipset support they are the same stuff. Server chipset then implies SCSI 320 support, SAS (serial attached SCSI - think sata on steroids) support, pci-x support, Broadcom Netxtreme support (again think gigabit NIC on steroids), teaming support (teams 2 or more ports for port-aggregation, fail-over, or shared) , etc. If you look at server motherboards and then look at desktop motherboards the differences are huge. I think that is where Intel sees the difference between the processors.

http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=555555...
http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=33883&...

Alright just posting this as I didn't get the difference at first. I know other people were asking the same question. I eventually came to a realization that the differences is with the official chipset support.
April 14, 2008 12:39:37 PM

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April 14, 2008 12:58:27 PM

Am I right to say that it is the chipset that determines the memory type, not the cpu?
April 14, 2008 1:10:52 PM

review_benchmark_hun said:
Am I right to say that it is the chipset that determines the memory type, not the cpu?


On current Intel machines, yes.

On current AMD machines, no.



On Intel machines the memory controller is located on the northbridge (motherboard).
On AMD machines the memory controller is integrated into the processor.
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April 14, 2008 1:22:22 PM

review_benchmark_hun said:
Am I right to say that it is the chipset that determines the memory type, not the cpu?


I was going to ask the same question. Since you can put these into a P35/X38/X48 chipset mobo it should run with DDR3 with no problem. Or at least so far.

On that note, has anyone gotten a X3360 instead of the Q9550 and used it in a retail board?
April 14, 2008 4:48:39 PM

The x3360 is the same as the q9550,I have the x3360 running on this computer right now with no problems.

Xeon x3360 (2.8G's)
Gigabyte X48T-DQ6 (F4 bios)
4G's OCZ DDR3 1600 1.9v (2x2G's)
3870x2 HIS GPU
2x 150G Raptors and 250G storage Drive
Vista Home 64Bit
650Watt Muskin PS.
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April 14, 2008 6:01:31 PM

moose64 said:
The x3360 is the same as the q9550,I have the x3360 running on this computer right now with no problems.

Xeon x3360 (2.8G's)
Gigabyte X48T-DQ6 (F4 bios)
4G's OCZ DDR3 1600 1.9v (2x2G's)
3870x2 HIS GPU
2x 150G Raptors and 250G storage Drive
Vista Home 64Bit
650Watt Muskin PS.


Thanks for letting us know :D 

Told ya that thing was wrong and that it could work with DDR3 cuz the chipset says so. Kinda like StoneCold says so but the chipset dictates that.

And just for the non believers, if you could so kindly post a CPU-Z or screenshot that way you can negate them.
April 14, 2008 6:18:01 PM

My prediction is that the X3360 will work in just about any motherboard that supports the Q9550... just like the Xeon E3110 runs on any board that supports the E8400.

Those marketing specs are just so that Mr. Almost-Retired IT-manager with the pocket-protector can check off that the X3360 runs on his server chipset before he signs the purchase requisition. Adding X38 and G33 "desktop" chipsets to the support list will simply diminish the chip to the title of lowly "Desktop" CPU in his perspective, and thus be not an acceptable "Enterprise" solution.

They are the same chip.
April 14, 2008 7:08:31 PM

alpine18 said:
My prediction is that the X3360 will work in just about any motherboard that supports the Q9550... just like the Xeon E3110 runs on any board that supports the E8400.

Those marketing specs are just so that Mr. Almost-Retired IT-manager with the pocket-protector can check off that the X3360 runs on his server chipset before he signs the purchase requisition. Adding X38 and G33 "desktop" chipsets to the support list will simply diminish the chip to the title of lowly "Desktop" CPU in his perspective, and thus be not an acceptable "Enterprise" solution.

They are the same chip.


exactly to the crossed t and dotted i.
April 14, 2008 7:20:41 PM

jimmysmitty said:
Thanks for letting us know :D 

Told ya that thing was wrong and that it could work with DDR3 cuz the chipset says so. Kinda like StoneCold says so but the chipset dictates that.

And just for the non believers, if you could so kindly post a CPU-Z or screenshot that way you can negate them.


OK here CPU-Z.

By moose64 at 2008-04-14
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April 14, 2008 9:14:38 PM

moose64, You rock. I only wish I had gotten Vista 64 and for some reason no matter what version drivers for my HD2900Pro come out and increase the performance, they have yet to decrease them in Vista just XP, my WEI for graphics is stuck at 5.8.

Might have to run the WEI with my GPU OC'ed to the 3870 speeds only with faster memory hehe.
April 14, 2008 9:34:26 PM

No problem I'am glad I can clear somethings up.
May 20, 2008 1:48:29 PM

Does anyone have a benchmark for the X3360 ?

moose64 maybe you could help me out ?

Thanks
May 21, 2008 12:39:51 AM

Logix said:
Does anyone have a benchmark for the X3360 ?

moose64 maybe you could help me out ?

Thanks


On 3D mark06 I'am getting 15500 with no overclocking.
June 2, 2008 7:07:18 AM

Hi,

I'm looking at putting together a system for rendering using maxwell. The benchmarks suggest a dual mid-range xenon quad system might be better than a single high end core 2 quad.

http://www.benchwell.com/

Are there any drawbacks to a dual quad xenon system compared to the core 2 quad? I've read the xenon runs on server architecture, what are the advantages/disadvantages of this over the desktop based core 2.

I've tried looking for this in the forums, so apologies if I missed a post that covers this.

Thanks,

Andy
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