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I was just looking @ some benchmarks and i found this :
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3271&p=4
 
Crysis :
 
9800GX2:
1280x1024:43.8
1600X1200:43.7
1920X1200:39.4
2560X1600:8.9
 
8800ULTRA:
 
1280X1024:38.9
1600X1200:30.2
1920X1200:25.8
2560X1600:16.3
 
The difference isnt much but why in 2560x1600 a 8800ULTRA wins over a 9800GX2 ?
 
and also :
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3271&p=4
 
And then there's the question of image quality. Even in games that do properly support SLI, the GeForce 8800GTX often outperforms the 9800GX2 when anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering are enabled at high resolutions. This is a weighty consideration in a system that's designed to provide the ultimate graphics quality; as a result, we might have picked the 8800GTX even if the 9800GX2 had been available at decision time.


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No one has any comments ?


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So far it appears to be two things. Drivers and a lack of memory. I know some will say its the bandwidth from the bus, 384 (8800GTX vs 256 9800GTX) but I believe this is solved with a better compression being done. But, as the cards are loaded with demands of higher res and AA AF demands, the memory comes up short IMHO


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This card is no good for you.  I think you need to just donate the card to me and I'll give you this nice and shiny HD2400 PRO.  PRO = Professional!  :lol:


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At extremely high res and/or having filters enables needs lots of memory.  The lack of memory on the GX2 would be the main culprit.  Unless I'm wrong, then it's not. :)


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Im hoping for a 1 Gig 9800GTX and see how it does


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I'm still thinking it's drivers.  The 3870x2 with the same amount of memory doesn't have the dramatic drop offs at those resolutions that the 9800gx2 does, even though the 9800gx2 is a stronger card.

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Some of it is definately drivers, but when you see it dominating a Ultra then tails off below it, to me thats memory. When you see it falling, its drivers


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if there is 9800gtx 1gb than i guess no one will buy the gx2 at all!!!people will just get 2 gtx and sli it!lol

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A GTX SLI combo I think is going to beat the GTX2


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2way sli or tri?

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2 way


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Every artist is a cannibal,every poet is a thief,they all kill their inspiration then sing about their grief
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what about tri sli 8800gtx to quad sli 9800gx2??

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2 8800GTS 512 beats a 9800GX2 in almost every game so 2 8800GTX will beat it definitely also :
 
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/foru [...] ked-slides
 
8800GTX:  
Processor Cores:128  
Core Clock:575  
Shader Clock:1350  
Memory Clock:900  
Memory:768MB  
 
 
9800GTX:  
Processor Cores:128  
Core Clock:675  
Shader Clock:1688  
Memory Clock:1100  
Memory:512MB  
 
Not a huge difference between these too, and even MAYBE ( i cant say for 100% because the real benchs arent out) a 8800GTX cant beat a 9800GTX in higher resolutions
 
 
BTW i really want to see the benchmark of 3 8800GTX/ULTRA vs QUAD 9800GX2


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We'll have to wait till drivers come out for the 9800 GX2...I'd wait on the card If I were you guys. I bought mine only because I can exchange it anytime since my friend owns the computer store.
 
I'm sure there will be a 2 gig edition released...just the like 1 gig 8800 GT


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but the overclock ability will be much better on the 9800gtx with smaller 65nm technologyand the memory is running at higher clock as well.

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well teh 9800 GX2 has 2 65 nm boards...sooo not much change..the 9800 GTX is just clocked higher. everything else is the same.


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better cooling dont you forget.as temperature is very important factor to overclocking!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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yes that is true but my 9800 GX2 runs at 64 when OCed to (740, 1200)


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but fan will be so loud its gonna be like a jet engine in your room!lol

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I can't hear my videocard fan. Only my CPU and front fan


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alright ok.