8800gs SLI

[romulus47plus1]

Anyone know how well SLI-ing 8800gs 384mb (or the larger memory one) would perform?
As good as SLI-ing a pair of 9600gt?

 

[romulus47plus1]

Hello....

 

[hesskia]

Well, If you already have an 8800GS, SLI'n another GS would make more sense than SLI'n 9600GT (total cost is more).

 

[dagger]

No. 8800gs is significantly slower than 9600gt, which costs only slightly more. It's not the best bang for the buck. If you have the money, it's better to sli a pair of 8800gt. It'll give you a longer useful lifetime before having to upgrade.

 

[marvelous211]

Anyone know how well SLI-ing 8800gs 384mb (or the larger memory one) would perform?
As good as SLI-ing a pair of 9600gt?

Essentially it would.

A 8800gs tends to be slower when AA is used though and not so much in raw performance. You are probably better off SLI 2 9600gt instead.

 

[marvelous211]

No. 8800gs is significantly slower than 9600gt, which costs only slightly more. It's not the best bang for the buck. If you have the money, it's better to sli a pair of 8800gt. It'll give you a longer useful lifetime before having to upgrade.

Actually it isn't significantly slower.

Check out my review in the thread. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/249707-33-marvelous-evga-8800gs-review-benches

 

[dagger]

Actually it isn't significantly slower.

Check out my review in the thread. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/249707-33-marvelous-evga-8800gs-review-benches

But you're only comparing it to 8600gt, which is a pretty bad card.

Anyway, the performance gap between 8800gs and 9600gt or 8800gt increases as resolution, AA, and AF increases, which is when it matters. There is no real difference between 50 and 65fps, but a big difference between 20 and 35fps, as one is playable, the other isn't.

 

[Darkness Flame]

9600GT would already highly outperform one 8800GS 384Mb. It goes the same in terms of two for two. However, the 8800GS 768Mb has substantially higher clock speeds and memory. It would probably be closer to a 9600GT, but would also still be held back by the bandwidth. Counting in SLI, the GeForce 9 series handles multiple cards better than the GeForce 8 series, so it gives you more performance. Pretty much, SLI 9600GT would be the better performer. Even single card, the 9600 GT would still perform better. If it didn't in any case, it could probably be overclocked so that it would perform better.

 

[marvelous211]

But you're only comparing it to 8600gt, which is a pretty bad card.

Anyway, the performance gap between 8800gs and 9600gt or 8800gt increases as resolution, AA, and AF increases, which is when it matters. There is no real difference between 50 and 65fps, but a big difference between 20 and 35fps, as one is playable, the other isn't.

You should try comparing my results with dozens of reviews of 9600gt out there on the web.

37fps @ high quality in Crysis isn't exactly slower than 9600gt.

8800gs and 9600gt is in equal footing with raw performance at stock settings and 9600gt edges out with AA because of extra 128mb ram and bandwidth. When 8800gs is overclocked however it performs more like a 8800gt raw performance which 9600gt can't even get close to. These 2 cards are different. One does better at pushing raw performance and the other does better with AA.

 

[hsetir]

@marvelous2 11
the comparison you provided above were speculated much before the actual release of 9600gt and were wrong. It was faster. Its about 10-15% faster than 8800gs.

 

[marvelous211]

@marvelous2 11
the comparison you provided above were speculated much before the actual release of 9600gt and were wrong. It was faster. Its about 10-15% faster than 8800gs.

No that's how exactly how it performs. Some games 9600gt wins but some games 8800gs wins. PConline is a Chinese website who get their hardware first because all the toys you have now are from China.

The first benchmark is actually a review.

 

[marvelous211]

I would so gladly compare results with anyone with a 9600gt.

 

[FrozenGpu]

marvelous, don't worry there always seems to be sooo many newbs, and I have nothing to do with them...

the difference between the 8800gs isn't that much from a 9600gt...for cris sakes there are sooo many reviews out there, just go to any good site, and check it...

besides check on newegg.com the lowest price for a good 8800gs is $110 after MIR, the lowest price for a good 9600gt is $144 after MIr...

the $34 rarely would justify the performance difference, since it is quite small...

and that card would only be good for either slower games, or lower resolutions, as soon as you hit higher resolutions, then both cards would be quite gay to use anyways...

 

[romulus47plus1]

Kk, there aint many reviews of the 8800gs, and they don't offer SLI benchmarks.
Yet, I am quite convinced right now that generation-9 cards are more suitable.

 

[basketcase]

I would think that if you already had one GS, it would be best to get another (atleast in terms of cost/performance gains). As you can see in Marvelous's review, the GS is a damn fine card. Especially if you OC it a little bit.

But, if you are looking to buy two new cards (i.e. you don't own one GS already), then my feeling is two 8800 GT's or two 9600 GT's would be better, only due to the 512 ram on them. Not a huge difference, only an extra 128 mb, but that can be helpful at higher resolutions. And just FYI, the series 9 cards are just series 8 cards, rebadged.

 

[FrozenGpu]

Kk, there aint many reviews of the 8800gs, and they don't offer SLI benchmarks.
Yet, I am quite convinced right now that generation-9 cards are more suitable.

dude look it up, the series 9 cards that you would trade your first born for are just G94 cards, basically extremely nurtured G92 cores, They aren't too far fetched from the G92 core in which the 8800GS [another nurtured one] is based off of...

8800GS has: 96 Stream processors , 48 Texture mapping units, 12 render Output Unit's 384MB on a 192-bit bus.
9600GT has: 64 Stream processors, 32 Texture mapping units, 16 render output unit's 512MB on a 256-bit bus...

b/c of the fact that the 9600gt has 4 more Rop's a little bit more memory, and a slightly higher memory bus, is the reason why it slightly out performs the 8800gs,

Bottom line: If you have a 8800gs and want to know which route to go, dude, just SLI the card u already have, :lol:, If you are asking which route is the better one to take b/c you don't have either card then the 9600gt...but its not like its going to make a big difference, in fact for the price of the 2 9600gt's why not just get a 8800 GTS 512, G92 core? SLI still isn't giving the performance increase that it should considering the money you are putting into it....The 8800GTs will still beat out the 9600gt in SLI, in quite a few games that do utilize SLI, and in games that do not, then the 8800GTS 512, would beat the 9600gt outright...

 

[marvelous211]

Reason why 9600gt will fail harder than 8800gs as time goes by.

Don't get me wrong 9600gt performs strong as of now and does good with filters because it has same memory bandwidth and vram as 8800gt and more pixel fillrate. When you look at the raw performance however it doesn't even come close to 8800gt.

9600gt is a card where you get the performance now with all the filters on but in the long run 8800gs is better suited with 96SP especially if you are running a smaller monitor. If you have 20-22" monitor though you should be picking up 9600gt but it would be better to pick the 8800gt or 3870 instead.

If you look at history in the video card industry the card with better shader performance out performs it in the end. It doesn't matter how much more pixel fillrate you have or memory bandwidth. Just look at all the Geforce 7 series with massive pixel fillrate and memory bandwidth. It has failed miserably with modern games while ATI still can play games on high settings because ATI was smart enough to stick 3fragmented pipes into their rop.

However I wouldn't SLI a 8800gs though because of the memory limitations. 9600gt would be better. 2 64SP would be ample enough for a quite long time anyways.

 

[FrozenGpu]

See noobs, that's some real info. for ya,

take notes son.

 

[romulus47plus1]

ok thanks

 

[Criptix]

i'm stuck on what to buy for my new computer. a single 9600gt? or 2 top asus 8800gs?

what do you think?

 

[customisbetter]

two 8800gs > one 9600 gt
no question

 

[Guest]

well actually i play crysis 1650-900 @ high settings with my overclocked 8800 GS 512MB and i it 35-40fps, i overclocked it myself, if u really want a decent graphics card, get a 8800GS and overclock it