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March 21, 2008 1:04:06 AM



Dear Friends,

This is my first build, so I am going for ease of build, power for general office applications, internet browsing, some MP3 files to disc recording' , movie playing. Thinking about upgrading in the future to an HDTV card. I would also like to install a version of Linux rather than Windows. I run a chess engine called Schredder 3 which is a lower end chess software. I chose a case with pws because of the brand and its one less item to install, right? Cost is an issue, but I want this to be a reliable system.
I want to use onboard sound and video for now. Any ideas? suggestions? Thanks.

* Antec NSK6580 Black/ Silver 0.8mm cold-rolled steel construction ATX
Mid Tower Computer Case 430W Power Supply - Retail
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...; *
*Model #:* NSK6580
*Item #:* N82E16811129033
*$119.95* -$10.00 Instant *$109.95*

* GIGABYTE GA-M57SLI-S4 AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD
Motherboard - Retail
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...; *
*Model #:* GA-M57SLI-S4
*Item #:* N82E16813128014
/
*$89.99* *$89.99*

* AMD Athlon 64 LE-1620 2.4GHz Socket AM2 45W Single-Core Processor
Model ADH1620DHBOX - Retail
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...; *
*Model #:* ADH1620DHBOX
*Item #:* N82E16819103198
*$46.99* *$46.99*

* CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...; *
*Model #:* TWIN2X2048-6400
*Item #:* N82E16820145590
*$53.00* *$53.00*

* Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard
Drive - OEM
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...; *
*Model #:* WD800JD
*Item #:* N82E16822135106

*$41.99* *$41.99*

* ASUS Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T - Retail
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...; *
*Model #:* DVD-E616A3T
*Item #:* N82E16827135143
*$20.99* *$20.99*
*Subtotal:* *$362.91*


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March 21, 2008 1:35:17 AM

If I may recommend I would get a Gigabyte P35 DS3L. It's the same price as your motherboard on Newegg. The reason I would get this is so you could upgrade to a E2160, which is a dual core processor and like $23 more than what you currently are trying to get. This will help a ton in multitasking and other things. And if you ever feel like overclocking, you can buy a relatively cheap CPU cooler and get the thing up to 3-3.2ghz with little effort. Just my two cents.

Edit: Apparently the stock e2160 cooler is good enough to OC it to 2.8-3ghz and have it run cool. So if you do get it, speeding it up to the speed of a far more expensive ($100+) processor is like a one step process requiring no change of voltage, just a change of the fsb. (which requires a simple change in the BIOS)
March 21, 2008 11:17:40 AM

It looks like you're an AMD supporter.

MOBO: It doesn't have onboard video. Go with GA-MA69G-S3H.
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March 23, 2008 12:10:57 PM

Hi Saedesas,

Just as you say the Gigabyte P35 DS3L has excellent feedback and a good price. I will give the upgrade issue to dual-core some more thought. Pam123 noticed that my choice has no onboard video, which I wanted. The Gigabyte P35 DS3L doesn't either. She recommends the MSI K9N6SGM-V AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD that has NVidia onboard video. Do you have a link so I can read-up on overclocking? I don't understand the principle/advantage. Thanks for the feedback.


If I may recommend I would get a Gigabyte P35 DS3L. It's the same price as your motherboard on Newegg. The reason I would get this is so you could upgrade to a E2160, which is a dual core processor and like $23 more than what you currently are trying to get. This will help a ton in multitasking and other things. And if you ever feel like overclocking, you can buy a relatively cheap CPU cooler and get the thing up to 3-3.2ghz with little effort. Just my two cents.

Edit: Apparently the stock e2160 cooler is good enough to OC it to 2.8-3ghz and have it run cool. So if you do get it, speeding it up to the speed of a far more expensive ($100+) processor is like a one step process requiring no change of voltage, just a change of the fsb. (which requires a simple change in the BIOS)[/quotemsg]
March 23, 2008 12:16:41 PM

Thanks for catching that Akhilles--A beginner's mistake right?


akhilles said:
It looks like you're an AMD supporter.

MOBO: It doesn't have onboard video. Go with GA-MA69G-S3H.

March 23, 2008 12:32:55 PM

Nothing wrong with AMD if your going for budget and don't OC. If you don't mind OC'ing a little than the Intel setup is better. If sticking with AMD than I'd go with the 780g chipset that will give you the best onboard graphics out right now. You can even add a $50 video card later to improve your graphics!
ASUS M3A78-EMH HDMI AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD on a budget really makes sense, if your not OC'ing any. If you do some light to mild OC'ing than the Intel would make more sense.
March 24, 2008 12:20:41 PM

Hard drive seems a little small.
March 26, 2008 1:53:22 AM


Dear Friends,

Thanks to all of you who pointed out serious oversight on my choice of mobo. Amy123 made the suggestion for this choice of mobo-has good reviews, and Linux compatibility. The upgrade to dual-core was made to the effect of an upgrade path to get betterr speeds with running 2 programs at once-not something I do that much of right now-price just $10 extra And yes for a few dollars more, a DVD burner too. I like the reviews about the choice of hard drive—very quiet—which is important. Anymore ideas? suggestions? Am I missing a crucial part? Thanks.

* Antec NSK6580 Black/ Silver 0.8mm cold-rolled steel construction ATX
Mid Tower Computer Case 430W Power Supply - Retail
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...; *
*Model #:* NSK6580
*Item #:* N82E16811129033
*$119.95* -$10.00 Instant *$109.95*

MSI K9N6SGM-V AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: K9N6SGM-V
Item #: N82E16813130068
$52.99 -$5.00 Instant $47.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Brisbane 2.1GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADO4000DDBOX - Retail
Model #: ADO4000DDBOX
Item #: N82E16819103774
59.99 -$4.00 Instant $55.99

* CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...; *
*Model #:* TWIN2X2048-6400
*Item #:* N82E16820145590
*$53.00* rebate

* Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard
Drive - OEM
<http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...; *
*Model #:* WD800JD
*Item #:* N82E16822135106
*$41.99*

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B - OEM
Model #: SH-S203B
$29.99 -$3.00 Instant $26.99
*Subtotal:* *$334.91*
March 26, 2008 1:58:26 AM

Thanks Akhilles and Lunyone-- My monitor does have both kinds of connections--I'll give it some thought--first build, more money, rebate period for the memory deal is over next week.



akhilles said:
Yes, that M3A78-EMH is a much better product. HDMI, DVI & D-SUB are the perfect combo. Linux drivers:

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguag...

March 27, 2008 11:26:29 AM

No, you didn't miss anything. I hope you have a box of basic hardware tools for the build.
April 1, 2008 3:20:22 AM


Here is the system I purchased through Newegg. The Mobo was changed on a recommendation from a person posting on another board. I looked up the compatibility at the AMD site and they mentioned it had a better compatibility with the ASUS M2N series than the original MSI choice, especially the "cool and quiet" feature. The ASUS website is user friendly, and I had no trouble finding downloads of Linux bios and drivers. I didn't think I need the hdmi port right away--but it does look like a nice board. The seagate users emphasized quiet so I went with that—note bigger drive. I'll make an update as the build proceeds. Thanks for the many helpful suggestions. This was an interesting experience.

Antec NSK6580 case with 430W Power Supply
ASUS M2N-MX SE Plus AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Brisbane 2.1GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 2048-6400
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3160815AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B -
NEC Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive
total cost: $361.89
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