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NVIDIA GT200 : GeForce 9900 GTX & 9900 GT In Q3

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No it is not some April Fool jokes. VR-Zone has learned that there will be two high end parts from Nvidia to replace the current GeForce 9800 GX2 and 9800 GTX in Q3. These two parts are GeForce 9900 GTX and GeForce 9900 GT based on the new GT200 architecture. GeForce 9800 GX2 and GTX will have a short lifespan since they will be replaced in a couple of months time. Nvidia has positioned GeForce 9900 GTX to replace 9800 GX2 and this gave a clue that a single GT200 card will actually outperform a dual G92 card. Likewise for GeForce 9900 GT, outperforming and replacing 9800 GTX. CJ revealed to us that Nvidia will have a hard time fitting GT200 onto the PCB since the GPU is gonna be large and very power hungry so we can probably assume it is still 65nm based. The PCB for GT200 will be P651.

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homerdog said:
Good find.

I hope they don't go with 9900 though...


I agree. They need to work on their naming scheme a little bit. New architecture should result in a new number scheme like it used to be. For serious users it's not that bad, but i could see it starting to get a little confusing for some people.
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:heink:  If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is :heink: 

September at the earliest I'd say. They're mentioning it know to lure peoples attention away from the Radeon HD4's

Bloody hell are they shafting anyone that just bought a GX2!!
No bloody way am I swapping out my GTXs in the near future!
Who'd think (assuming the card comes out to tempt buyers from the HD4K series) that a top-end card would ever last a min. of 3 months!
I think my next card(s) will be ATi's... :) 
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some more rumours
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7578.html
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...GT200 is really two G94 chips slapped together...

Dual-core makes sense on a few points; GT200 is not a proper code-name for an NVIDIA core, but would sooner indicate something like a dual-core spin. The name GeForce 9900 series also points to that GT200 is another spin off the G9x architecture, and not a true next generation architecture.


well, we'll know when it arrives :p 

homerdog said:
If I'm reading this correctly, GT200 is two G94s in a single package. Hopefully this chip won't require duplicate framebuffers.



Well ti would be soemthing very knew then as all SLI needs two framebuffers thats how it works. Cards dont pool recources they just work together.

Hatman said:
Well ti would be soemthing very knew then as all SLI needs two framebuffers thats how it works. Cards dont pool recources they just work together.

By single package I mean Q6600 style, like two dies under the same IHS. That is something completely new for GPUs as far as I know.

The 9800gx2 is 50 to 60% faster than an 8800gtx in most demanding game ( Crysis, Oblivion etc ) so I would say a 9900gtx will be 70 to 80% than a 8800gtx, and should retail for $500

9800gt will be just under/ same performance as 9800gx2 and should retail for $300 or so....

9800gx2/ 8800gts sli owners will have no reason to upgrade imho...

Its highly unlikely that 9900gtx will be 2 g94 cards on one board...





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Funny how it keeps going back and forth from a 1.8billion transistor giant 55nm part to two Xmillion transistor 65nm part.

I agree with homerdog, it better be 2 dies on a single package like they rumour the R700 to be or else it's going to be inefficient like all previous G/X2 models.

What happened to the 'one big chip' theory? Sounds like either there were problems, or else the benefits of focusing on multiplying the mid-range won out as predicted.

I have no intent on getting a 9 series card. Unless this next one is a serious move forward and not just adding a couple more horsepower for a few extra frames like the 9 series so far (although the 9600GT is quite a value)
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JAYDEEJOHN said:
PCB = printed circuit board. And x16 is the amount of paths it has, and PCI2 is just more of those paths added, so it can easily go backwards to PCI1


PCIe 2.0 has the same number of paths running at twice the speed.

I think all boards from top to bottom with be PCIe 2.0 at the interface from now on, internally that may be different.

ATI RV 770 aka HD 4870 should be out in june. www.matbe.com
RV 770 is supposed to be 50% :??:  (IMO should be faster than that) faster than RV 670 is most applications.
Not a revolution to blast NV out of the market but some good competition
to the 8800GTS 512 and even 9800GTX. Better bang for money... :bounce: 
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TheGreatGrapeApe said:
PCIe 2.0 has the same number of paths running at twice the speed.

I think all boards from top to bottom with be PCIe 2.0 at the interface from now on, internally that may be different.

TY Ape, I hadnt any sleep when I wrote this, as well as a few other things :o  Im hoping this is at least 10x better than the Intel IGP :lol:  as Im sure it will be. Im waiting with enthusiasm for the next true gen from both nVidia and ATI
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San Pedro said:
I think any video card made in the last 8 years is probably "10x better than the Intel IGP".

This was meant to be a joke about the ongoing battle between nVidia and Intel, refering to Nvidias CEOs comment about Intels IGP. If you havnt read it its good stuff http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11448 As for the 9800GTX, I guess thats progress, disappointing tho it is. But like I said, Im really looking forward to these nexr gen cards.
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nzxtlexa said:
Good news ....

http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/602331/rumour-control-ge...


Bogus!
As if the date of the release didn't help already. [:mousemonkey:1]

Just look at the Device ID and tell me how this G0D-E like number at the beginning or the one with the similar ending works in Hexadecimal? Sounds like someone doesn't even know the general rules for fakery, leave no obvious errors.

nVidia's vendor code is 0x10DE of which usually just those last 4 characters appear; if that helps you figure out the veracity of the picture at the bottom.
http://developer.nvidia.com/object/device_ids.html

u guys are already assuming performance? I'd suggest you don't assume anymore, that way you won't get disappointed.

The cards are still far away from selling:)  I doubt we'll see them till Xmas. So yeah
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jkflipflop98 said:
Nearly a 3-year run on one GPU? That's gotta be some sort of record.


What's had a 3 year run? :heink: 

The GF8 is less than 2 years old, just barely over 1.5 so only 1/2 way to that 3 year run, and if you were to count any refresh as a GF8, then it's not much of a record compared to the R300 or NV40 architectures. :pfff: 

I wonder when they will start making all highend video cards external because of chip size. They could do it. Make a PCIe card with a cable attachment that goes into a box. The box could have its own power cord to plus into the wall to power its own built in 1kw PSU. :) 

FrozenGpu said:
homerdog, cah027 was talking about gpu's for the home/gaming solution, not the ones used by analysts, scientists, and so on...besides those things cost like $15,000 USD....

I was just kiddin' :D 

A little off topic here but did anyone read that thread where the guy was putting four 9800GX2s into one system for some hardcore medical imaging or something? I'll have to dig that one up...

LukeBird said:
Bloody hell are they shafting anyone that just bought a GX2!!
No bloody way am I swapping out my GTXs in the near future!
Who'd think (assuming the card comes out to tempt buyers from the HD4K series) that a top-end card would ever last a min. of 3 months!
I think my next card(s) will be ATi's... :) 



If you paid attention to what NV was saying you would have seen this coming. NV doesn't want to invest in the X2 game like ATI does. They will only put out an X2 card if and only if ATI does in order to compete. I would never purchase an X2 card from NV after NV themselves have denounced them.

JAYDEEJOHN said:
PCB = printed circuit board. And x16 is the amount of paths it has, and PCI2 is just more of those paths added, so it can easily go backwards to PCI1


Hahaha, whoooopseee. X16 = x16....you must have been reeeeeally sleep deprived. [:zorg]
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SpinachEater said:
If you paid attention to what NV was saying you would have seen this coming. NV doesn't want to invest in the X2 game like ATI does. They will only put out an X2 card if and only if ATI does in order to compete. I would never purchase an X2 card from NV after NV themselves have denounced them.



Hahaha, whoooopseee. X16 = x16....you must have been reeeeeally sleep deprived. [:zorg]

LOL Yeah, and cranky too as I wont mention other posts I made :o  Oh well, wont be doind that again :sol: 

SpinachEater said:
If you paid attention to what NV was saying you would have seen this coming. NV doesn't want to invest in the X2 game like ATI does. They will only put out an X2 card if and only if ATI does in order to compete. I would never purchase an X2 card from NV after NV themselves have denounced them.

I must ask, where does the 7950GX2 fit into that statement? :heink: 

homerdog said:
I must ask, where does the 7950GX2 fit into that statement? :heink: 


Apparently that was the take home message after the 7950GX2 folly.

JAYDEEJOHN said:
I would also ask, whered the support go for those?


Yeah I don't know...the 9800GX2 just came out too...oh wait you are talking about the 7950? :kaola: 

I hate dual gpu, single slot thing, the scaling sucks and so does the perf/price ratio. looking for that 9900GT though, it might be interesting. the 8800GT was a savior for most us because of the huge performance gap, the 8600GT was about a fifth the power of the 8800s, pathethic. a 7600GT performed better in most cases.
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