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March 23, 2008 12:34:42 AM

Thanks for all the help everyone here's the final build I will be ordering parts Mid April!!!
any last minute advice welcome

CASE
XCLIO WTBK advanced
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

MAINBOARD
EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Model
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
Update PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Crossfire Edition) EPS12V 750W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...


HDD
Update Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...


Optical
Update LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

MEM
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU cooler
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$36.99

LCD
Update ASUS VW222U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

UPS
CyberPower CP1350AVRLCD 1350 VA 810 Watts UPS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OEM Artic Silver 5

OS
Vista 64 premium

total build price without taxes or shipping (not including rebates)
getting monitor locally

$1,751.88

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March 23, 2008 1:17:37 AM

It looks pretty good but there are a few things that i would change about it if i were you. The first being that power supply. I honestly have not heard much about that brand, but if would go with somthing like a PC Power and Cooling. You dont need that much wattage for that kind of sytem either, even if you play on Sli later. This power supply has a cheaper price, is plenty of power for you needs, (even if you Sli later) and is better quality than that.

Also, do you really need ddr2 1000? Unless you plan on doing some heavy overclocking, ddr2 800 would be just fine, and cheaper. Might i recommend some if this,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It is also cheaper, but better quality. They use Micron D9 chips if I remember correctly, which are some of the best quality memory chips made.

Another thing I would change is that video card. The 8800gts is a geat card, but I have not had very good luck with MSI. Evga makes solid cards and also have a great warrenty/stepup program. Take a look at this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Yes it is $10 more expensive, but much worth it IMHO.

Other than that it looks like a good build, good luck, and ask any questions that you have.
Related resources
March 23, 2008 1:46:09 AM

this is where i got the power supply recomendation
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10...

i totally agree with the evga vs msi and will take your advice

as far as the memory i feel the prices wont signifacantly drop on ddr3 for awhile so i figure'd go with a little faster ram since the evga 780i mobo supports up to 1200 it would be a shamed to put 800 in there right? especially for the few bucks difference and muskin got great warrenty and setup help like evga does...
March 23, 2008 1:54:51 AM

Take notice, The PC Power and Cooling I recommended is a Tier 1 PSU
While the one you wanted is a Tier 2.

True, the difference in memory prices are little. I would still go with the Crucial memory though. You really wont be able to see a difference between the two unless you run a memory benchmark, or a application that relies heavly on memory speed.
It is your money, spend it as you wish though. If you would rather go with the Mushkin go right ahead. I have heard good things about them also.


March 23, 2008 1:55:44 AM

Ok-

3 items need changing right off-

1- No aftermarket cooler for your cpu listed, that quad is a heat beast, need to tame it prior to moving up much in speed.

2- Dump the redline ram, get 4 gigs of some good Corsair DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 stuff for about $80 AR.

3. Go get a good 550-650 watt psu from Corsair or Thermaltake in the $150 range. Most all of these have outside source tests giving them passing marks on quality.

My 6750 Oc'd to 3.6, 8800 GTX oc'd to ultra, 4 gig ram, 2 x dvr's, 3 x SATA hd's, and a watercooled setup pulls 385 watts at max under load for several hours.

Also, spend another $30 on the new WD 640 gig drives, ALMOST raptor speed in those babes, 20mb/sec different transfer vs the one you mentioned, and slightly better seek times.
March 23, 2008 2:33:13 AM

1. PSU, i would rather the higher wattage, so i think the p& c definately, the reason i was looking at the xclio was its modular and decent priced but i'm sure the p&c tier one will out last the xclio, i really liked the abs/tagan bz800 but it seemed all flash and dash and couldn't find tier listings sees like you cant have both modular & powerfull
2. memory it just seemed a waste to have a 1200 rdy board with 800 ram in it but my funds are not unlimited so i may just go that route but im trying to future proof as much as possible but i'm planning on going 8 gigs total so maybe the speeds wont matter as much as i think

3. will take advice on the WD 640 instead of going 1 x 500 for now and one later

4. am i jumping on the pci-e 2.0 bandwagon to soon i waited till the 8800's came down in price only to find out pcie 3.0 is coming in 2010!!!
March 23, 2008 2:33:45 AM

btw thanks so much you guys and this forum rocks...
March 23, 2008 2:40:51 AM

Well, dont quote me on this, but i heard that pcie x16 isnt even used to its FULLEST potential yet. So dont worry about not being future proof with pcie 2.0 and whatnot. As long as you have pcie 2.0 you will be fine.

I like modular better also. If you really want a modular PSU, try this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Its seasonic, also makes great PSU's. Its also high wattage. Its not on the Tier list, but it is a great Psu.
March 23, 2008 3:14:51 AM

SuicideSilence said:
It looks pretty good but there are a few things that i would change about it if i were you. The first being that power supply. I honestly have not heard much about that brand, but if would go with somthing like a PC Power and Cooling. You dont need that much wattage for that kind of sytem either, even if you play on Sli later. This power supply has a cheaper price, is plenty of power for you needs, (even if you Sli later) and is better quality than that.

Also, do you really need ddr2 1000? Unless you plan on doing some heavy overclocking, ddr2 800 would be just fine, and cheaper. Might i recommend some if this,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It is also cheaper, but better quality. They use Micron D9 chips if I remember correctly, which are some of the best quality memory chips made.

Another thing I would change is that video card. The 8800gts is a geat card, but I have not had very good luck with MSI. Evga makes solid cards and also have a great warrenty/stepup program. Take a look at this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Yes it is $10 more expensive, but much worth it IMHO.

Other than that it looks like a good build, good luck, and ask any questions that you have.


I agree with all that.

I'd get the Silencer 750W Crossfire, not the Silencer 750W S75QB. Same price, same quality, but it has 6/8 pin connectors instead of fixed 6-pin connectors.. For example 9800GX2 and 3870X2 need 8-pin connectors already. It doesn't matter now, for the 8800GTS, but it will matter for your next video card.

I have WD5000AAKS disks and WD7500AAKS and I can tell you the speed difference is big. DVD Shrink used to stop and report 1 GB of buffer in use and to stay there 2 or 3 minutes to flush it. That part isn't happening with the WD7500AAKS. I haven't tried the WD6400AAKS, but I suspect it's pretty fast too because it has perpendicular recording like the WD7500AAKS.

I don't like Zalman 9700 coolers, they get noisy under load and they're overpriced. I'd get this one:
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

March 23, 2008 3:45:51 AM

edited original post once again thanks so much i didnt think to look at that crossfire edition of that P&C 750 , i didn't think it would be applicable on an sli sys but your right about the connections
March 23, 2008 3:49:12 AM

oh and a friend of mine has the zalman and its so easy to clean the way its fan is in the center and nice size space between fins, i looked at both of those you recomended suicide the first caught my eye but looked hard to clean
March 23, 2008 3:57:31 AM

True, it may be a little bit harder to clean. But it yeilds better performace. And how often do you really clean your cpu cooler? lol
The zalaman is a good choice though.
Well I must go for tonight but i will be back tomarow
Good luck
March 23, 2008 4:25:36 AM

ok edited what's she lookin like now???

I talked my wife into taking my old 19" sony trinitron as an upgrade for her pc so i'll be posting, a monitor to go with this beast 250 max buget...suggestions welcome
March 23, 2008 9:55:49 PM

is there a big difference between 5ms and 2ms screens in gaming?
March 23, 2008 10:18:43 PM

ill_take_two said:
is there a big difference between 5ms and 2ms screens in gaming?


None that you will notice, I used a dell 24" with 12 ms for the longest time, now on a 28" with 5ms.

That zalman failed a few tests a week or two back due to poor mounting brackets.

And yes, we do not currently max out x16 or 1.0 on the pci-e slots, so no worries for the next few series of cards.... 2.0 might be relevant in a few years.

Remember, quality beats watts anytime on psu's. A good quality 650 will be more than adequate for what you are doing.
March 23, 2008 11:13:32 PM

Granite3 said:
None that you will notice, I used a dell 24" with 12 ms for the longest time, now on a 28" with 5ms.

That zalman failed a few tests a week or two back due to poor mounting brackets.

And yes, we do not currently max out x16 or 1.0 on the pci-e slots, so no worries for the next few series of cards.... 2.0 might be relevant in a few years.

Remember, quality beats watts anytime on psu's. A good quality 650 will be more than adequate for what you are doing.

^Agreed somewhat. I play competivie gaming in FPS games like Counterstrike, and I can tell the difference. It is very little and unless you really try hard to look for it in a video game when life and death means alot you wont notice. But for movies, office use, ext. YOU WONT NOTICE IT AT ALL. You dont do any eSports do you?

Remember, its better to buy a quality 5ms screen then a crappy 2ms. But for what you are doing a nice 22" 5ms should be good :) 
I like this one also,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
March 23, 2008 11:27:23 PM

this pc is geared for gaming only cod4 , wow, crysis, eq2,

and suicidesilence that's pretty nice monitor i like the button layout
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