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I was wondering if the claim that ASUS' caps are crap is true,

I DO NOT WANT YOUR OPINION! as I do not want this to become a dumb flame war

I want real results/test/benchmarks/reviews basicly something professinal and unbiased

does someone know where I could find that?


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*bump*


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No. I seriously doubt someone would build a PC for the sole intent of letting it run until the motherboard's caps pop like party balloons(however long this might take).

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Check toms hardware, they just went to a gigabyte convention that was a tell all against there major competitor...Asus.


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BLACKSCI wrote :

Check toms hardware, they just went to a gigabyte convention that was a tell all against there major competitor...Asus.



I kinda made this thread for that reason, it is gigabyte, their biggest competitor... not a very big chance of that info being dead on...


As I stated above I want unbiased, though some people have told me that it's (the crappy asus claim) is a load of crap and worse case the comp will last 3 years running for over 12 hours a day, I think I'm safe.


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haha


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ha


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jonyb222 wrote :

I kinda made this thread for that reason, it is gigabyte, their biggest competitor... not a very big chance of that info being dead on...

 


As I stated above I want unbiased, though some people have told me that it's (the crappy asus claim) is a load of crap and worse case the comp will last 3 years running for over 12 hours a day, I think I'm safe.


The part about EPU is precisely dead on. It's been tested and confirmed by third party long before the Gigabyte demo, down to the stability problems caused by EPU.
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/ [...] index.html

 

The part about Asus using cheaper non-Japanese made caps to save cost have also been confirmed. The question is if those Malaysian caps are actually inferior. Just because something is cheaper doesn't automatically mean it's bad. And yeah, no one is going to run it for years and see which one breaks down first. Besides, they're not going to burn out before your board is obsolete anyway. :p


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umm... what's so funny?

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The part about EPU is precisely dead on. It's been tested and confirmed by third party long before the Gigabyte demo, down to the stability problems caused by EPU.
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/ [...] index.html

The part about Asus using cheaper non-Japanese made caps to save cost have also been confirmed. The question is if those Malaysian caps are actually inferior. Just because something is cheaper doesn't automatically mean it's bad. And yeah, no one is going to run it for years and see which one breaks down first. Besides, they're not going to burn out before your board is obsolete anyway. :p



I wasn't really worried about the EPU as they're still working on it (I'm not getting an ASUS board for a while and the EPU is sure to change/improve thouhg the caps might no do so as quickly. But as you said Gig only said the caps weren't japanese.


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If you're so concerned then why not just get a Evga, XFX, Gigabyte, or MSI, they are all near the same (except for their warrantys)

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gamecrazychris wrote :

If you're so concerned then why not just get a Evga, XFX, Gigabyte, or MSI, they are all near the same (except for their warrantys)



a very long process of elimination that took me about a week to complete, ending up with the 2 top board (Asus and Gig at the same price) and a few others...

I may end up making my choice when this is over (between a potential liar (Gig) and a potential cheapstake (ASUS))

anyway so I'll probly have to wait a while to see how big of a quality diff ASUS' caps are?


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Who knows, I went with gig because when i started researching asus i was amazed at the amount of problems people were having with the boards, and the crappy customer service they recieved. I wanted something as close to plug and play as i could get. Asus used to be the top dog, but from what i have seen, and even now all the posts ive read on the message boards im still leery of them.


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Asus was never any different than it is now.
The problems people are having with asus now are the same thing their customers have had to deal with for years.

They make good boards(right now more at the high end only). When they work, they are good. But sometimes they don't which makes people realize their customer service is a joke.

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jonyb222 wrote :

a very long process of elimination that took me about a week to complete, ending up with the 2 top board (Asus and Gig at the same price) and a few others...

 

I may end up making my choice when this is over (between a potential liar (Gig) and a potential cheapstake (ASUS))

 

anyway so I'll probly have to wait a while to see how big of a quality diff ASUS' caps are?


Asus and Gigabyte are hardly at the same price level. A x48 board from Asus cost $300, Gigabyte version cost $240. There's a big difference. The major reason (the only one, really) I ended up with a Gigabyte board is it's so much cheaper.

 

Gigabyte, as things stands now, cannot possibly be proven liars. So no, it's not "potential liar." What they said about EPU was proven by third party testers. The non-Japanese made caps are also beyond doubt. It's only their assertion that Asus's Malasian made caps are inferior than Japanese ones. Since no one tested for that long, it will remain a question, which means there's no way Gigabyte can be proven a liar, since 90% of their claims have been proven to be facts, and the remaining 10% cannot be proven either way. :sarcastic:

 

Asus is also already proven to be cheapstake. They use the cheaper capacitors that, even though not necessarily bad, are still cheaper, which, by defination, makes Asus cheapstakes. :na:
The only question is if Asus being cheapstakes will harm consumers or not. If the cheap caps are just as good as expensive ones, it won't.


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lol...."cheapstakes"......it's cheapskates......


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hypocrisyforever wrote :

lol...."cheapstakes"......it's cheapskates......


We get our stakes cheap. :sol:


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Asus and Gigabyte are hardly at the same price level. A x48 board from Asus cost $300, Gigabyte version cost $240. There's a big difference. The major reason (the only one, really) I ended up with a Gigabyte board is it's so much cheaper.



The board you're talking about doesn't have enough onboard usb for my needs (the board from Gig I was refering at costs 298$ or 1$ cheaper than ASUS at the moment)
Also cuz I really want to go overboard when I get my mobo



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Gigabyte, as things stands now, cannot possibly be proven liars. So no, it's not "potential liar." What they said about EPU was proven by third party testers.



As I've already stated once or twice I am not interrested in the EPU

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The non-Japanese made caps are also beyond doubt. It's only their assertion that Asus's Malasian made caps are inferior than Japanese ones. Since no one tested for that long, it will remain a question, which means there's no way Gigabyte can be proven a liar, since 90% of their claims have been proven to be facts, and the remaining 10% cannot be proven either way. :sarcastic:



I meant liars as the insinuation that the non Japanese caps make a difference (which is yet to be proven as you've said)

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Asus is also already proven to be cheapstake. They use the cheaper capacitors that, even though not necessarily bad, are still cheaper, which, by defination, makes Asus cheapstakes. :na:
The only question is if Asus being cheapstakes will harm consumers or not. If the cheap caps are just as good as expensive ones, it won't.




I meant cheapskate as in cutting quality while trying to cut price. aka inferior products at same profit margin (which is yet to be proven as you've said)

I hope that clears up some misconceptions :D

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cheapsKaTes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >_<

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