As the title says...I have a evga 8800GTS 512 and am considering stepping up to the 9800GTX. It will only cost me about $40 including shipping both ways. I have read several reviews of the 9800GTX and am unsure if it is worth it to step up. I am having a hard time finding any real advantages but I don't won't to miss my only opportunity to step up since I only have a 28 more days to do so. I am also concerned since the 9800GTX uses 2 6pin PSU connections and my Corsair 620HX only has 2, so I don't see how I could go SLI with these cards if latter on I choose to. If anyone knows of any compelling reasons to step-up or to not do so I would appreciate your input.
you'll get 3 frames per second more in crysis, but it looks like quite a bit more fps in everything else. i think i'd take the chance. maybe i'm crazy and don't have good supporting facts.
$40 + shipping both ways? to me it isnt worth it. You get what? 675MHz vs 650? 2200MHZ ram instead of 1940MHZ?
You can overclock the GTS pretty high. I have mine at 750/1000. I might tweak with the ram a bit. I think the GTX might have the GTS in the ram speed department but really i dont think you will get a huge boost from it. Those benches are stock vs stock anways.
You get what? 675MHz vs 650? 2200MHZ ram instead of 1940MHZ?
Actually, the EVGA 8800GTS is 670MHz stock so he would mostly get RAM speed. Anyone know how far you can push the 8800GTS RAM alone?
I could have steped-up for 45$ and unless new facts come-up, I will not step-up for so little. The real gain with same driver versions seem to be only 2% on average so you actually get about 1 more FPS in Cysis.
My charge for step up would be about $27 including shipping back to me plus about $10 to ship to them for a total of about $37. Zentahr brings up a very good point. All the benchies for the 9800gtx have been with a different and updated driver than what the 8800GTS was running when the comparisons were done. With both running the same driver I would think the performance difference would be less if not the same, but this is just my guess. I am really on the fence. Are there any other improvements over the 8800gts 512 that justify the step-up? Is the general consensus that it's not worth the cost, even if only $37?
Actually, the EVGA 8800GTS is 670MHz stock so he would mostly get RAM speed. Anyone know how far you can push the 8800GTS RAM alone?
I could have steped-up for 45$ and unless new facts come-up, I will not step-up for so little. The real gain with same driver versions seem to be only 2% on average so you actually get about 1 more FPS in Cysis.
I believe the GTS memory isn't the greatest and you can get a little over 1000MHZ out of the stuff. I've seen 1050 max. The GTX, APPARENTLY, uses Samsung memory and is much better at higher clocks. Hence the 1100MHZ clock on them.
Message edited by jay2tall on 04-03-2008 at 06:12:01 PM
Anyone know how I would even do SLI with 2 9800gtx's since they require 2 6pin connectors each and my PSU,Corsair 620HX, only has 2? And why I am hearing it uses less power when it requires 2 6pin connectors as compared to the 1 on the 8800GTS 512?
All the benchies for the 9800gtx have been with a different and updated driver than what the 8800GTS was running when the comparisons were done. With both running the same driver I would think the performance difference would be less if not the same, but this is just my guess.
You can check my other thread on the matter and/or go directly to this review. I have no idea how the hell he got his RAM to 1100MHz ...
You can check my other thread on the matter and/or go directly to this review. I have no idea how the hell he got his RAM to 1100MHz ...
VooDoo spells and a chicken foot?
I don't think I'd risk taking it that high when other HIGH CLOCKERS get 1050ish with theirs. And they volt Mod their cards and would pee on them if it would get 1 more MHz out of them.
Message edited by jay2tall on 04-03-2008 at 06:23:48 PM
As the title says...I have a evga 8800GTS 512 and am considering stepping up to the 9800GTX. It will only cost me about $40 including shipping both ways. I have read several reviews of the 9800GTX and am unsure if it is worth it to step up. I am having a hard time finding any real advantages but I don't won't to miss my only opportunity to step up since I only have a 28 more days to do so. I am also concerned since the 9800GTX uses 2 6pin PSU connections and my Corsair 620HX only has 2, so I don't see how I could go SLI with these cards if latter on I choose to. If anyone knows of any compelling reasons to step-up or to not do so I would appreciate your input.
Alot (if not all reviews) of the 9800gtx use older drivers for the 8800gts 512mb, which inflates the gtx scores, apparently by quite alot in crysis and cod4, plus if you oc'd just the memory on your gts you would really close the gap on a gtx. If you do step up it seems like the new gtx has good oc abilities, but otherwise it barely seems like it's worth the hassle. Of course come the time you might want to sell your stepped-up-to 9800gtx in the future to buy a new card, you would get more cash from a 9800gtx than a 8800gts 512mb, so your $40 outlay would actually be less in the long run. Of course it all comes down to the time and hassle of it all. By the way, how does it work with the step-up programme? do you have to post off your old card and wait until they recieve it and confirm it works before they dispatch the newer one to you?
By the way, how does it work with the step-up programme? do you have to post off your old card and wait until they recieve it and confirm it works before they dispatch the newer one to you?
Exactly so you could be out of a video card for 1-2 weeks depending on shipping time.
---------------
The capacity to learn is a gift; The ability to learn is a skill; The willingness to learn is a choice. - Rebec of Ginaz
Thanks for the links Zenthar, very interesting and informative! So it appears tat using the same drivers and with a light overclock to the same specs as the 9800gtx the 8800gts 512 is actually superior in all but a few tests? How easy is it to get the 8800gts 512 to these clocks? Is it a given that all 8800gts 512's can achieve these clocks?
Thanks for the links Zenthar, very interesting and informative! So it appears tat using the same drivers and with a light overclock to the same specs as the 9800gtx the 8800gts 512 is actually superior in all but a few tests? How easy is it to get the 8800gts 512 to these clocks? Is it a given that all 8800gts 512's can achieve these clocks?
My XFX GTS clocked to 750/1000 with no effort at all. I'm using Riva Tuner, because it's nice and has a OCD that shows me temp and FPS in games. I tried 800/1000 but had issues and never really had the desire to finely tweak the clocks. Just keep in mind it appears that each brand has a different auto fan setting. Some run hotter than others. Mine seems to stay around 40% fan and 50C at idle. I max out at about 65C with my OC. Some people set the fan profiles in Rivatuner but its a pain. You can bios flash it but i dont want to get to radical for .2 FPS
It's a walk in the park compared to OCing my old x1900xtx
Message edited by jay2tall on 04-03-2008 at 06:59:13 PM
