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Should i get a quad core q6600 or e8400? q6600 is 225$ wile e8400 is 205$
I do alot of gaming and overclock with watercooling, which one would be the best one for me.
THANKS.


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invisik wrote :

Should i get a quad core q6600 or e8400? q6600 is 225$ wile e8400 is 205$
I do alot of gaming and overclock with watercooling, which one would be the best one for me.
THANKS.

 


The e8400 can overclock higher due to less heat, thus perform better on older non-quad supporting applications with only 1 or 2 threads. q6600 perform far better on new quad optimized programs, which are few in number so far. Your water cooling decreases the e8400's oc lead by keeping the hot q6600 cool. Basically, e8400 offer better performance right now, but Q6600 is more futureproof. Either one is fine.


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Both processors will run everything very well. Just get the cheaper one of the two.


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dagger wrote :

The e8400 can overclock higher due to less heat, thus perform better on older non-quad supporting applications with only 1 or 2 threads. q6600 perform far better on new quad optimized programs, which are few in number so far. Your water cooling decreases the e8400's oc lead by keeping the hot q6600 cool. Basically, e8400 offer better performance right now, but Q6600 is more futureproof. Either one is fine.




Exactly what he said.


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Get a Q6700 (it's only $300 now) and an X38 mobo and overclock to 4GHz. That should match or beat both the E8400 and the Q6600 in all apps, quad-optimized or not.

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aevm wrote :

Get a Q6700 (it's only $300 now) and an X38 mobo and overclock to 4GHz. That should match or beat both the E8400 and the Q6600 in all apps, quad-optimized or not.


yeah but when you've fadctored in the expense of a x38 over a p35 ontop of the +$90 differnece between the e8 and the q67 then youve change price bracket really.

although if this is in your budget it not a bad idea.

then again i would recommend a q9300 over the q6700. infact if you can get a q9300 do so, then you get best of both worlds, 45nm and quad core. but i dont know what the price is in USD.


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okay so im gonna stick with a quad then but whats the difference between the q6600 and the q9300. the q9300 is like 60more$ then the q6600 is it worth 60$ more?


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I've had the same questions about the quad cores, but I was considering the Q6600 or the Q9450. Now that the price drop has happened, the Q6700 is starting to look better than the Q6600. The difference between the Q6600 at Newegg ($229.99) and the Q6700 at TigerDirect ($259.99) is only $30. The Q6700 has a multiplier of 10, which will really help out with OC'ing.

I'd be interested if some owners of the Q6700 could comment on the Q6700 compared to the Q6600. We all love the Q6600, but are we missing anything by not considering the Q6700?????

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I got a Q6700 at work and a Q6600 at home, both at stock. I can't really see a difference, honestly.

Let's assume you have an X38 mobo working at 1600 MHz and a great cooler and good RAM. The Q9450 goes to 3.2 GHz, and that is about as fast as, say, a Q6600 at 3.4 or 3.5 GHz. (The Penryn is faster at the same clock than the Conroe.) The Q9300 goes to 2.8 GHz, i.e. equivalent to Q6600 around 3.1 GHz.
The Q6600 goes to 3.6 GHz. The Q6700 goes to 4 GHz. So, I guess, in this scenario,
Q9300 < Q9450 < Q6600 < Q6700.

At stock, Q6600 < Q9300 < Q6700 < Q9450
I'm not sure between Q9300 and Q6700 at stock. They have very similar clocks, the Q6700 has a larger cache, but the Q9300 has other improvements. It might depend on application.

Anyway, don't get this too seriously. Try to find benchmarks and then decide. My feeling is that the Q6700 will get a lot more love from now on, at its new price. It was a stupid purchase when it cost twice as much as the Q6600, (unless it's for work and you're prohibited from overclocking by company policies) but now at 15% more $ it is very tempting.


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aevm... Thank you sharing that information with us and the OP of this thread!

Now that the price breaks are here I kept hearing more and more about the Q6700. You and Grimmy from another thread have convinced me that for me the choice is really the Q9450 or the Q6700.

I hope we can get more input to help the OP of this thread and other newbies like myself make better decisions about the quad procesors.

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is this a good deal? will it let me overclock the q6600 a good amount. plz let me no i have to order by tom.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 813131142R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115018


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I'd have a hard time spending $75 or more for a higher multiplier. If the price gets closer, then the Q6700 would become more appealing. For $300, I'm thinking a 45nm Quad is the more attractive buy. I still think the $180 retail Q6600 fry's had last week was best quad deal yet. Makes a $300 Q6700 look overpriced in my eyes. Just my 2 cents.


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I totally agree with pauldh... $75 or more for a higher multiplier is too much. I personally will keep my eye out for a Q6700 that is close to only $25 more than a Q6600... Or, I'll get the Q6600 and save some money. I am still doing my research, so I have time to look for a deal on the Q6700 or Q9450.

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invisik wrote :

is this a good deal? will it let me overclock the q6600 a good amount. plz let me no i have to order by tom.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 813131142R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115018

 


Do not use use 650i chipset motherboard. It is capable of little to no overclocking, no yorkfield support and has large number of problems, including burning out ram (the 650i chipset is known as the "ram killer).

 

Open box items are those rmaed by other buyers due to various defects, and resold to you at a discount. They do not come with cables, drivers, and may be missing parts.

 

P35 and 780i chipset boards run at 1333mhz fsb natively, and reliably overclock to 1600mhz. X38/48 chipset boards run at 1600mhz fsb natively, and reliably oc to 2000mhz. You have chance of going above those fsb overclocking limits, but it's hit or miss. You're basically guaranteed to hit those reliable oc limits listed.

 

At 1600mhz fsb, Q6600 (9x multiplier) runs at 3.6ghz, Q9450 (8x) runs at 3.2ghz, and Q9300 (7.5x) runs at 3.0ghz.


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dagger wrote :

Do not use use 650i chipset motherboard. It is capable of little to no overclocking, no yorkfield support and has large number of problems, including burning out ram (the 650i chipset is known as the "ram killer).

 

Open box items are those rmaed by other buyers due to various defects, and resold to you at a discount. They do not come with cables, drivers, and may be missing parts.

 

P35 and 780i chipset boards run at 1333mhz fsb natively, and reliably overclock to 1600mhz. X38/48 chipset boards run at 1600mhz fsb natively, and reliably oc to 2000mhz. You have chance of going above those fsb overclocking limits, but it's hit or miss. You're basically guaranteed to hit those reliable oc limits listed.

 

At 1600mhz fsb, Q6600 (9x multiplier) runs at 3.6ghz, Q9450 (8x) runs at 3.2ghz, and Q9300 (7.5x) runs at 3.0ghz.

 


i am really on a tight budget how about this mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131232
i might get the open one for 99$.
i need 2 pcie slot sli 9800gtx soon.
already have 4gig 800mhz dd2 ram.
will this mobo let me oc?

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Message edited by invisik on 04-23-2008 at 01:32:02 AM

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invisik wrote :

i am really on a tight budget how about this mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131232
i might get the open one for 99$.
i need 2 pcie slot sli 9800gtx soon.
already have 4gig 800mhz dd2 ram.
will this mobo let me oc?

 


It doesn't oc as well as p35 or 780i board, but otherwise solid board. No major issues like the 650i. Don't get open box. Some things, like a fan, might be a good idea to consider buying open box. A motherboard is far too complex, with too many things that can go wrong. It's not worth the possible headaches.


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I like the 650i better than the 680i really. They perform just as well, even in SLI, and seem more stable. Haven't had any issues with the 5 I have used so far. I can't vouch for the OC abilities myself as I am running a Q6600 @ 3.0GHz at stock voltage without issue but have not tried any higher since I am using the stock Intel fan and a quiet Sonata II case. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130081

Anand managed a 450 FSB on my 650i: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdo [...] i=2946&p=4

I do agree though an wouldn't buy an open box mobo, esp. for OC hopes. it may have been returned because it was a lousy OC'er.

BTW, here is 650i vs 680i 8800GTX SLI results. http://www.techspot.com/review/45- [...] page4.html

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Message edited by pauldh on 04-23-2008 at 01:56:26 AM

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pauldh wrote :

I like the 650i better than the 680i really. They perform just as well, even in SLI, and seem more stable. Haven't had any issues with the 5 I have used so far. I can't vouch for the OC abilities myself as I am running a Q6600 @ 3.0GHz at stock voltage without issue but have not tried any higher since I am using the stock Intel fan and a quiet Sonata II case. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130081

 

Anand managed a 450 FSB on my 650i: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdo [...] i=2946&p=4

 

I do agree though an wouldn't buy an open box mobo, esp. for OC hopes. it may have been returned because it was a lousy OC'er.

 

BTW, here is 650i vs 680i 8800GTX SLI results. http://www.techspot.com/review/45- [...] page4.html


About that pro oc on 650i...

 

Those are teh 1337 pplz. You are not 1337, therefore you will not get 1800mhz fsb on 650i if you sell your soul to Satan. :na:


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