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Ge force 8800 GTX 768MB vs GeForce 9800 GTX

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April 3, 2008 8:11:19 PM

Which one u choose. between 2 cards.Ge force 8800 GTX 768MB or GeForce 9800 GTX.?I hope you guys give me good reason for your choice :hello: 
April 3, 2008 8:20:27 PM

If I had to choose between those two, price would most likely be my deciding factor. If you don't have a power supply that can handle the 8800GTX, then maybe the 9800.
a c 143 U Graphics card
April 3, 2008 8:40:22 PM

Well, let's see. I'll compare the BFG 8800GTX ($360 at newegg now) with the BFG 9800GTX ($330).

Advantages for the 8800GTX: better fps at high resolutions in single-card setup.

Advantages for the 9800GTX: $30 less, no mailing rebate junk, consumes less, less heat, support for Triple-SLI (assuming you have a 780i board and a serious PSU and case).

For a single-card setup, and a resolution of 1680x1050 or more, I would still buy the 8800GTX, I think, or maybe the 8800GTS G92 512MB. It depends on the budget.

For 2-card setups, I'd pick the 8800GTS G92 512MB.

For 3-card setups, the 9800GTX.

Edit: you should probably compare the 9800GTX with the 8800GTS G92 first. If you don't need 3 video cards, you can stick with the 8800GTS G92 and save lots while still getting the same performance or very close.
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April 3, 2008 8:51:50 PM

mrfrantik said:
Which one u choose. between 2 cards.Ge force 8800 GTX 768MB or GeForce 9800 GTX.?I hope you guys give me good reason for your choice :hello: 


8800GTS 512 :D 
April 3, 2008 8:59:44 PM

You could also compare the EVGA 9800GTX ($330) vs the EVGA 8800GTX ($340 before rebate, $290 after rebate) and honestly even if I wasn't going to cash the rebate for whatever reason I'd still pick the 8800GTX.

From what I understand OC'ing the G92 does not net you the same performance benefits as OC'ing the G80 core (At least that's what I'm led to believe by some of the comments of G92 owners in this forum). The other thing that worries me a little about OC'ing these cards (That may or may not be fixed with the 9800GTX) is the fact that there were some strange problem going with the memory I believe when it was OC'ed past 2000 that affected the longevity of the card.

For what is worth, the 9800GTX is no doubt a great card (No matter how you look at it, it's a rehashed 8800GTS G92), however the 8800GTX still feels like the better "high end" package to me if you get what I mean. One thing that cannot be denied is that you will need a PSU for the G80 core to feast on, because they are power hungry.
a c 363 U Graphics card
April 4, 2008 4:14:19 AM

Based on the two reviews, I would probably choose the Radeon 9800GTX... err... I mean the GeForce 9800GTX.
April 4, 2008 5:02:23 AM

aevm, I was under the impression the 8800 GTX was tri SLI compatiable aswell?
April 4, 2008 5:12:37 AM

MikosNZ said:
aevm, I was under the impression the 8800 GTX was tri SLI compatiable aswell?


Yes, the 8800GTX and Ultra are Tri-SLI compatible. aevm just screwed up unforgivably, that's all :kaola:  :ouch:  :sarcastic:  :lol: 

Sorry aevm :na:  :sol: 
April 4, 2008 11:04:01 AM

I'll rather get the 8800 GTX, at least it has a higher memory bus and more RAM unlike the POS 9800 GTX which I think is a joke. WTF was NVIDIA even thinking when they made the 9800 GTX.

And a 5-10% performance increase just ain't worth it. The only good thing about the 9800 GTX that its cheaper, though its not worth my time.
a c 143 U Graphics card
April 4, 2008 1:30:51 PM

Avenger_K said:
Yes, the 8800GTX and Ultra are Tri-SLI compatible. aevm just screwed up unforgivably, that's all :kaola:  :ouch:  :sarcastic:  :lol: 

Sorry aevm :na:  :sol: 


Oops, I did. Yeah, I was thinking of the 8800GTS. Sorry...

April 4, 2008 1:47:55 PM

Ha ha np mate! :D  I'm just having fun........
a c 169 U Graphics card
April 4, 2008 6:36:38 PM

emp said:
You could also compare the EVGA 9800GTX ($330) vs the EVGA 8800GTX ($340 before rebate, $290 after rebate) and honestly even if I wasn't going to cash the rebate for whatever reason I'd still pick the 8800GTX.

From what I understand OC'ing the G92 does not net you the same performance benefits as OC'ing the G80 core (At least that's what I'm led to believe by some of the comments of G92 owners in this forum). The other thing that worries me a little about OC'ing these cards (That may or may not be fixed with the 9800GTX) is the fact that there were some strange problem going with the memory I believe when it was OC'ed past 2000 that affected the longevity of the card.

For what is worth, the 9800GTX is no doubt a great card (No matter how you look at it, it's a rehashed 8800GTS G92), however the 8800GTX still feels like the better "high end" package to me if you get what I mean. One thing that cannot be denied is that you will need a PSU for the G80 core to feast on, because they are power hungry.



Definitely agreed, the 768MB memory of 8800GTX helps it to beat the 9800GTX in higher resolutions

From tomshardware review:

So come on, Nvidia. Is this really the best you can do 17 months after the 8800 GTX?

Nvidia GeForce 9800 GTX: A card that's almost as fast as the 8800 Ultra at a much lower price is a good thing. But a year and a half after the release of the GeForce 8 series, and even though AMD doesn't really have anything that can go head to head with this card, we'd have liked a little more punch to replace the 8800 GTX with (which is also now being sold for under $400). What we got instead was a card that's very noisy under load and limited by a stingy 512 MB of memory. These drawbacks are especially disappointing given that the 8800 GTS 512 MB is very similar and less expensive.

+ Performance close to that of the 8800 Ultra at half the price / Support for HybridPower (with compatible motherboards) - Noisy under load / Only 512 MB of memory / Not different enough from the 8800 GTS 512 MB, 8800 GTX and Ultra, although they're previous-generation cards and often less expensive.
April 4, 2008 8:37:54 PM

I don't even understand why this is even a question.

1. The 9800GTX is cheaper
2. The 9800GTX is better in terms of game performance (see Toms Hardware review benchmarks)
3. The 9800GTX consumes less power
4. The 9800GTX generates less heat

Why would you even consider buying a 8800GTX!? (Unless you took advantage of the rebate, then it would be a bit less expensive)


Plus, the 9800GTX will only get better with more time and newer drivers...
April 4, 2008 8:56:21 PM

Chimera6586 said:
Why would you even consider buying a 8800GTX!?
Maybe because it has more ROPs, TMUs, a wider memory bus and 256MBs of more memory? :kaola: 
Actually, I wouldn't buy either card today; I think you'd be better off saving money with an 8800GT or GTS.
April 4, 2008 9:25:25 PM

Chimera6586 said:
I don't even understand why this is even a question.

1. The 9800GTX is cheaper
2. The 9800GTX is better in terms of game performance (see Toms Hardware review benchmarks)
3. The 9800GTX consumes less power
4. The 9800GTX generates less heat

Why would you even consider buying a 8800GTX!? (Unless you took advantage of the rebate, then it would be a bit less expensive)


Plus, the 9800GTX will only get better with more time and newer drivers...


These are true; however, the 8800GTX sees much larger gains when overclocking because of the additional ROPs.
April 4, 2008 11:15:31 PM

Quote:
Maybe because it has more ROPs, TMUs, a wider memory bus and 256MBs of more memory? :kaola: 
Actually, I wouldn't buy either card today; I think you'd be better off saving money with an 8800GT or GTS.


Non of this matters if it doesn't perform better in real game benchmarks (see toms review)...
April 5, 2008 12:32:54 AM

I faced the same decision today when my GTS 640mb failed. I went for the 9800GTX despite my reservations about the stingy memory issues. Worst comes to worse I'll sell the GTX and get a Radeon in June. I'll post again relating my experiences with the tweaked GTS G92 (aka the 9800gtx) when I get it.
April 5, 2008 1:40:16 AM

9800 GTX is a performance king up till 1900 res just like the GX2, but it all depends on the game. Crysis makes any card bend over.

the GTX is a very well planned out card. It was what push Nvidia ahead, but its an obsolete card. It uses old technology.

I think there should be a 1 gig edition coming out, made by other companies just like the 8800 GT 1 gig. but till then we'll have to wait.

My answer would be 9800 GTX because it dawns new technologies along side blazing frames.

a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2008 2:44:57 AM

hmmm not sure i totally agree with some of the posts. the 9800gtx is a solid card. its only real flaw is the 512megs of ram and its narrower bus width of 256bit. at uber high res's it falls behind the 8800gtx just like the (g92) gts in sli do. so unless your going with uber high resolution and you wanna run 3way sli...get the 9800gtx. it wins in almost every benchmark. if your going for 1920x1200 (and arguelibly 1080P) or greater pixal count having 768 of ram can have advantages over the newer, smaller, power efficient if not castrated memory monster (really 512 and 256 :(  why!!!!). i think the new "gtx" would have been far more appealing had it not made those cuts to its specs. the 9000 series should have been the 8900 series. nvidia goofed in general if you ask me.
April 5, 2008 2:49:39 AM

1080p won't have much impact on 512 meg cards. its when You reach 2500 resolution that the 512 cards actually have a problem keeping up. Check Tom's benches
April 5, 2008 3:24:27 AM

Ok, two things. The 9800gtx is a fast card but what does that mean if it's only 5% faster than it's 2 year old predecessor. Also, the 8800gtx is now officially cheaper. Check newegg, they are being sold for half what they used to. They are roughly $40 cheaper than the 9800gtx....so, it makes you wonder. BTW, on an unrelated note, I run a 3.1ghz o/c q6700 with two 8800gtx's, and I have a 700watt power supply. You don't need a 1k p/s.
April 5, 2008 3:29:52 AM

5% faster than the Ultra, faster than the GTX by enough unfortunately. But then again the 9800 GTX has overclocking potential. and so does the 9800 GTX.

Don't forget it consumes less power and stays cooler. So it doesn't demand as high of a PSU.
a c 169 U Graphics card
April 5, 2008 11:28:14 AM

As for PSU that many say well its true that 8800GTX needs more power than 9800GTX but it doesnt mean its a monster
A decent 500-550+ PSU should do the trick like Corsair 550 or
OCZ STEALTHXSTREAM 600W which are both under $100 i think
a c 169 U Graphics card
April 5, 2008 11:31:43 AM

Chimera6586 said:
I don't even understand why this is even a question.

1. The 9800GTX is cheaper
2. The 9800GTX is better in terms of game performance (see Toms Hardware review benchmarks)
3. The 9800GTX consumes less power
4. The 9800GTX generates less heat

Why would you even consider buying a 8800GTX!? (Unless you took advantage of the rebate, then it would be a bit less expensive)


Plus, the 9800GTX will only get better with more time and newer drivers...


I agree with 3 and 4
about the 1 : go and check newegg, some 8800GTX are cheaper and most of them have equal price
2_So u havent read the benchs completely, look @ 1920x1200 and higher resolutions and u will see what i am saying
8800GTX beats the 9800GTX in high resolutions because it has 768MB of memory vs 512 of 9800GTX
Also 90% of 8800GTXs can be easily OC'd to 8800ULTRA with ease or even higher(I have a OCZ 8800GTX @ 612/1080 =Exactly 8800ULTRA)

April 5, 2008 9:34:59 PM

Ugh yeah I am an 'uber' hi res gamer and won't be benefiting from the 768mb 384 bus of old. That is why I view this card as a stop gap for me, it would have been a keeper if the memory been at least the same as the old school GTX.

One of the joys of getting a stop gap card, in my opinion, is overclocking the hell out of them and seeing what's doin sans worry.
a b U Graphics card
April 5, 2008 9:59:39 PM

to liquid: actually if you check anandtech's review its points out a few game instances at 1920x1200 where the 9800gtx falls behind i think mazier indirectly referanced it as well. though i would agree those game titles are limited in number...for now. i am not saying the 9800gtx is a bad card, all i am saying is it could have been a better card than it is.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3275&p=6

though its comparing the 9800gtx to an 8800 ultra (amongst other gpu's). the graphs do show at close to 1920x1200 (and as i said agruebly 1080P) with filters on and graphics cranked 512 card can fall behind the ultra's 768 of ram. the the short version of things. though i agree the differance is much great at higher resolutions. wish they had a straight 8800gtx to 9800gtx match up but i think you get the idea of what mazier and i ment about the additional 256 of ram and additional 128mb of bandwidth the "last gen" cards had.
May 19, 2008 7:40:41 AM

howcome no1 mention to the slot interface between two cards, PCIE vs PCIE 2.0 it is matter?? ..."scatting ball..."
a b U Graphics card
May 19, 2008 8:24:18 AM

because no card out there maxes out the x16 pcie 1.0, 1.1 slot. tomshardware did a test though i can't recall the link at this time but it showed that the 2.0 gains were negilgible. at pcie 1.0., 1.1 and x8 slot can be maxed out...ie in 2.0 thats a 4x slot bandwidth wise, also in the test. So in the end its mostly hype and only concernes those running sli in x8 mode. the perforance dropped by ten percent or more if i remember correctly.
May 19, 2008 12:13:42 PM

mrfrantik said:
well if u check online reviews 9800 gtx seems beats 8800 gtx 768
check it out.
http://www.techspot.com/review/92-asus-geforce-9800-gtx...
http://neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/xfx9800g...

And moreover 9800 uses less power consumption.I got 500 cooler master PSU so i am taking that thing into consideration too ;) 


yeah it would appear so but then again the 8800gtx hasn't had any driver updates since december until the 175's very recently came out. Nvidia has been plugging the 9 series like crazy, the 8800gtx should win out the majority of times with some 'fairer' benchies with all cards playing on the same level driver playing field. Should open a gap up between the 9600gt and 8800gt aswell. Haven't seen any benchies myself with the 175 drivers in them, but its a bit too early for that yet. Think about it like this, all decent reviews have COD4 and Crysis tests, which are quite young games really, but only the 9 series has been seeing the drivers move along in those titles, seeing 8 series cards using drivers from not that far off the release dates. An oc'd 8800gtx is still the king of single gpu cards in my book. Especially at 1900x1200 with AA and beyond.
a b U Graphics card
May 19, 2008 2:39:14 PM

8800GTX or 9800GTX?

If you have neither now, have to buy now, and don't have an enviously large monitor - then the 9800. But I bought my 8800 well over a year ago, and certainly don't feel lacking today.


Follow on question: Do you have an adequate card today??

If so, then I would wait a couple months since both ATI and nVidia are releasing new. Hoping for a clear replacement for my 8800GTX. Not quite there yet with what's on the shelves now.
October 28, 2008 9:22:21 PM

I have bolth card and im a crysis fenatic, So i tested them to see whitch one runs better. Thier almost the same exepet i got 5 more frps on the 8800gtx than the 9800 and the 8800gtx is made for high resolution gameing. I dont know if it was me but i noticed the AA on the 9800 was a little crewd compaird to the AA pm the 8800gtx
November 13, 2008 3:03:52 AM

if your one of these morons that think a card with 1gig is better then a 768mb then your dumb ass 1gig and 768 mb means sweet **** all when it comes to 3d cards the things to look for in a card that is decent a it's core speed , it's bit rating and the prices

Alot of brainless ppl got out and buy the a card that has a $999 prices tag cos it's hight end Branded name little do they know all cards run the same no matter what brand it is the only upside to top brand name cards is they have better cooling thats it when you can get a card thats worth $480 and dose the same a $999 card dose if you a worried about your card overheating in summer or your one of them wankers that overclock your cardsand shorting the life of the card then a get a decent 3d card cooling kits which a about $80 hope this has helped

PS: to all you dick heads claiming to know anything about 3d cards dont waste your time posting made up **** you dont even understand cheers.
a b U Graphics card
November 13, 2008 5:42:17 AM

What a wonderful thread resurrection.

It'd be even better if there was something useful to add...
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