You can find deals if you look. I got an opty 185 from newegg last week for 160.00. Must have been a single 1 tray special or stock rotation, sold out within 3 hours. Ebay i found was a little expensive. I was looking for about a year to upgrade from a 4000 san diego. At most maybe anouther 1 or 2 years you can get out of a 939 socket.