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March 27, 2008 12:24:44 PM

I think I've narrowed down my new rig. Are all these parts compatible together?
any suggestions... objections?


GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813128059

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029

G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16820231122

EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318

edit:
I'm gonna try and run it on my existing 485w PSU without ANY overclocking:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103457
I'll keep an eye on it.. maybe check it out with a multi-meter to see what it's doing

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a b å Intel
March 27, 2008 1:09:05 PM

Yes, they are compatible and pretty good too.

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro would be fine.

However, you're better off IMO buying an E6750 and no HSF at all. You can overclock the E6750 to 3.2 GHz with the stock cooler.

March 27, 2008 1:14:05 PM

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If you are getting the e4500 + HSF may as well just get a better chip with stock cooler... Like AERM said. e6750 isa good choice.
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March 27, 2008 1:49:09 PM

good point..
OP edited
a b å Intel
March 27, 2008 2:14:56 PM

Here's another PSU, it's $15 less (maybe $25 less, if you do the Google Checkout thing):
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-vx-550w-atx-power-supply/q/loc/101/205852646.html

The StealthXstream 600W is a decent quality PSU and quiet, but it has a blue light which may be annoying if you keep the PC in the bedroom and need to leave it on at night.

What kind of video card will you have?
March 27, 2008 2:44:17 PM

rspaulding said:
good point..
OP edited

Good save.

AS AEVM pointed out Buy.com has some good deals on corsair PSU's. Ive' seen this mentioned several times.
March 27, 2008 4:08:22 PM

aevm said:
Here's another PSU, it's $15 less (maybe $25 less, if you do the Google Checkout thing):
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-vx-550w-atx-power-supply/q/loc/101/205852646.html

The StealthXstream 600W is a decent quality PSU and quiet, but it has a blue light which may be annoying if you keep the PC in the bedroom and need to leave it on at night.

What kind of video card will you have?

EVGA 8800GT 512mb

Will 550w be enough for all the gear in the 1st post... plus all the extras, PCI cards, USB devices, Hard Drives, etc.?
a b å Intel
March 27, 2008 4:25:09 PM

Yes, it's enough.

With the DS3L you will have only 4 SATA ports, by the way (e.g. 3 hard drives and a burner). If that's not enough look at the DS3R or DS4 versions.

Edit: the single-slot 8800GT and an overclocked CPU both require good cooling. If you haven't picked a case yet I'd suggest the Antec 900.

If you can afford another $60 or $65, there are some pretty good prices on newegg for the BFG and eVGA 8800GTS 512MB cards. For your $65 more you get a quieter card, 10% to 14% faster, overclocking better, and pushing the heat directly out of the case instead of inside the case. You decide if it's worth it to you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143119
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130325
March 27, 2008 5:07:24 PM

rspaulding said:

Will 550w be enough for all the gear in the 1st post... plus all the extras, PCI cards, USB devices, Hard Drives, etc.?

Yes. There are 550w PSU's and there are 550W PSU's. The Corsair PSU's are very effiecient and can handle a good bit. This one is rated at 41A on a single 12v rail. That is plenty for the 8800Gt and your hardware. The g92 gpus dont suck as much juice as the old g80 gpus. If you threw in an 8800GTX I'd go for a little more wattage, but you are fine with this one. It's a good unit.
March 27, 2008 5:13:44 PM

aevm said:
the single-slot 8800GT and an overclocked CPU both require good cooling. If you haven't picked a case yet I'd suggest the Antec 900.


I am hoping to use the case I already have. here are some pics..its a mess I know but its all being replaced!
do I need better/more case fans?







March 27, 2008 5:27:00 PM

I'd reuse it unless you want a new look. Take everything out and wipe it all down good. I'd get a new rear and blowhole fan. I saw the single 80mm readr fan and though, eh that's ok, until I saw the blowhole fan and now I'm ok with it. You should be fine with airflow.

What PSU is that in there? can't you just reuse that one. Or doesn't it have a PCI-e power connector. What's the specs on that?
a b å Intel
March 27, 2008 5:28:11 PM

TBH I have no idea how that cools. Give it a try. Use nTunes or GPU-Z or RivaTuner to monitor the video card's temperature, and CoreTemp for the CPU. (They are all free downloads.) SpeedFan is another useful tool, if you want.

Once the IDE cables are gone your airflow will be better, that should help. It will all look better too :) 
March 27, 2008 6:22:49 PM

If you don't OC you might be ok. If you are planning to OC I'd think about something a little bigger. I'd say its on the boarder really. thats 32A on the 12v rails. It should be ok.
March 27, 2008 7:23:57 PM

Well if I don't change the voltage when I OC, only change the multiplier... I can still get around 3ghz and it won't need as much power, right?
March 27, 2008 7:26:18 PM

You can't change the multiplier on the intel chips, they are locked. You have to increase the system bus speed.

I think you will be ok if you have one drive and moderately OC. I think they OC pretty well on stock voltages.
March 27, 2008 7:56:18 PM

^ You can change multiplier on the chip. It goes from 6x to what ever is the highest on that chip (ie E2180 has a range from 6x to 10x, but not higher.). This excludes EE CPUs, which can go above the stock multiplier)
March 27, 2008 8:01:43 PM

I always hear people talking about RAM timings. Do I have to make sure the RAM I buy has the same timings as my board? or what?
a b å Intel
March 28, 2008 1:42:27 AM

You could get some memory with better timings if you're willing to spend $14 more.

CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145194

It's 4-4-4-12 instead of 5-5-5-15. Also, I found a newegg reviewer saying it works perfectly in his GA-P35-DS3L.

Another one said this:
Quote:
Pros: Runs great, no issues! Paired with a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4 mobo, boots and runs just fine at default bios settings. 5-5-5-15 and 1.8V. Quick change to 4-4-4-12 and 2.1V in bios.


March 28, 2008 2:17:47 AM

I've also heard some people say that windows will only recognize 3gb or 3.5gb of the 4gb that they have installed.. why is this?
a b å Intel
March 28, 2008 1:49:26 PM

Use the search feature, man. We've had hundreds of threads about this. A 32-bit operating system can address 4 GB, but has to give up some of that to make room for the video card's memory and other purposes. I'm 99% sure you will see 3.5 GB with your video card. I see 3.25 with mine because mine has 0.75 GB of RAM (that is, 768MB). It's still worth buying 4GB, at today's prices.

You can get Vista 64-bit if you want to use all the 4 GB or even more than that. It would also give you DirectX 10 (makes Crysis and FSX look better, for example), and you'd get the security updates for several years from now instead of just a few more months. However, games are still getting more fps under XP AFAIK. Probably not a problem with that 8800GT, but I thought you should know before you decide.
March 28, 2008 2:57:08 PM

aevm said:
You could get some memory with better timings if you're willing to spend $14 more.

CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145194

It's 4-4-4-12 instead of 5-5-5-15. Also, I found a newegg reviewer saying it works perfectly in his GA-P35-DS3L

Would I really notice a difference between a CAS latency of 4 and a CAS latency of 5?
a b å Intel
March 28, 2008 3:21:31 PM

At stock, no, you wouldn't notice a difference, I think. It would be around 2% faster with the lower latencies, in applications that use memory a lot, and just the same in others. With overclocking, around 4.5% faster. In general, chips with lower latencies are usually based on better ICs and tend to overclock better.

Here's a pretty good article about it. I hope your French is acceptable :) 
http://www.overclocking-masters.com/articlesocm.php?id=48&p=9

March 28, 2008 3:46:46 PM

I have a hard enough time understanding this stuff in english!!!
a b å Intel
March 28, 2008 4:06:41 PM

LOL. You get bonus points for honesty. No worries, it's hard for everybody, it's not you.
March 28, 2008 5:07:01 PM

OKAY ... original post is edited ... and I'm about to hit the "checkout" button @ newegg

I'm gonna try and run it on my existing 485w PSU without ANY overclocking:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103457
I'll keep an eye on it.. maybe check it out with a multi-meter to see what it's doing

but.. other than that..DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY LAST SUGGESTIONS or OBJECTIONS TO THE ORIGINAL POST?
March 29, 2008 7:10:41 PM

anyone??
or should I just shutup and buy it already? :) 
April 1, 2008 5:51:40 PM

What would you guys recommend for case cooling on my new rig?
see pictures above ^ (with old hardware in it)

are the two 80mm fans enough?
April 2, 2008 2:15:58 PM

rspaulding said:
anyone??
or should I just shutup and buy it already? :) 

Just push the dang button!

I think 2 80mm are fine. Just make sure you don't crank them all the way down. keep the air moving especially while gaming.
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