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Hi guys,

I'm not overclocking, just building a pc as is.

which memory(speed, type) would go best with Intel's core 2 duo (E8400 / 3.00GHz Socket 775 1333MHz) processor? Do I need dual channel ddr2 or would dual channel ddr3 perform better? What should be the memory speed?

I also was considering buying a Phenom, maybe you can drop a word or two about that and what memory would fit AMD?

Any other related advice would be greatly appreciated, I'm searching for a proper motherboard as well. I dont need SLI, I'm cool with one graphics card.

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Hello and welcome to the forums mate :)

Go for DDR2 because:

1_The difference between DDR2 and DDR3 isnt much(its not noticeable)
2_DDR2 RAMs are very cheap now

I say go for a good P35 board like ASUS P5K or GIGABYTE P35 DS3L with a DDR2 800 RAM (If u dont OC then the timings arent important)
Brands like OCZ,CORSAIR,GEIL,G.SKILL,CRUCIAL...... are good

------------------------------ Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar

Thank you very much for advice.

If I were to overclock it later on, what memory/mobo should I go with?

By the way, can you guys direct me to a website where I can read all about choosing memory by rocessor / mobo type and all the fsb speeds and such? Intel vs Amd stuff as well in there? If I could read all this up, i would not bug you

Reply to Anonymous

As long as you buy ram that meets the motherboard's standard, it will be fine for normal operation. It also cant hurt to check the motherboard and ram manufacturer's website for certified compatible products. Always buy ram of a reputable name with a lifetime warranty that isnt voided by overclocking if you choose to do so. Reading reviews on newegg.com can give you good insight as to user opinion of specific items. Check the review and if 1000 out of 1050 people love a product, its a safe bet you you will too.

Reply to DiscoDuck

I'm just wondering if I need dual channel ram, and is 800mhz enough if I choose to overclock it computer

Reply to Anonymous
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If u want to OC then those motherboards are very good still
And for the RAM go for a DDR2 800 RAM with 4-4-4-x or lower timings

------------------------------ Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar

DDr2 dual channel or just DDR2?

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Anonymous wrote :

Hi guys,

I'm not overclocking, just building a pc as is.

which memory(speed, type) would go best with Intel's core 2 duo (E8400 / 3.00GHz Socket 775 1333MHz) processor? Do I need dual channel ddr2 or would dual channel ddr3 perform better? What should be the memory speed?

I also was considering buying a Phenom, maybe you can drop a word or two about that and what memory would fit AMD?

Any other related advice would be greatly appreciated, I'm searching for a proper motherboard as well. I dont need SLI, I'm cool with one graphics card.


Yes, dual channel memory is a must
Go for 4G(2X2G) sticks from G.SKILL,CRUCIAL,MUSHKIN,DOMINATOR (DDR2 800)

------------------------------ LianLi PC-A70 Case/Enermaqx Galaxy 1000W/Asus Rampage Formula/E8500/Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme Lapped/Scythe S-Flex SFF21F/Crucial Ballistic Red Line DDR2800 PC6400(2X2)GB/8800GTS 512MB/WD Raptor2X150GB/ViewSonic VX922(1280X1024Max)
Reply to kad

Ok, so far here's what I'm going for:

1. Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L mobo
2. Intel Core 2 Duo E8400

Now I have to decide between 2gb or 4g of ram, dono if I actualy need 4gb? Will I have noticeble difference in speed/performance? I'm having trouble finding 4-4-4-x timing ones (shopping at tigerdirect .ca / canadacomputers .com)

IS it worth buying a sata drive? will it increase speed vs ide hard drves I have? I dont care much about space, dont need much, but speed is an important factor.

Reply to Anonymous
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If u can afford 4GB go for it

------------------------------ Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar

only patriot has 4-4-4 4 2x2gig ddr2 and reviewers say it wont overclock right... any advice?

Reply to Anonymous
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Which reviews? The shop costumer reviews? if so the dont listen to them
Shop Costumer reviews like newegg reviews are %90 incorrct

Patriot is a good brand and that RAM that u have choosed is very good IMO
It has 2.1 voltage +4-4-4-12 timings right?

------------------------------ Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar

2.2 voltage,

http://canadacomputers.com/index.p [...] AM.346.307

I'm trying to see if I can find something similar but little cheaper, If I dont find anything this memory should do right?

Reply to Anonymous

I am using this Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231122

I have run this ram at 870mhz without a hitch. I have heard of people running as high as 900mhz.

The DDR Ram List listed this ram as some having Micron D9 chips.

Has anyone got the link to "DDR Ram list" to work lately or know of a new link?

Reply to rsetter1
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Anonymous wrote :

only patriot has 4-4-4 4 2x2gig ddr2 and reviewers say it wont overclock right... any advice?


Crucial Ballistics Red Line sticks are 4-4-4-12
I thought you'll not overclock !!
Anyway even if you'll OC you do not have a problem
You do not need to OC memory
Your processor E8400 at default is running at 333MHz FSB and you need DDR2 667 not 800
So you have more than enough
Actually you can OC your processor up-to 3.6 GHz by pushing FSB to 400
And the memory required will be DDR2 800
It will run amazingly in ratio 1:1 with your FSB
Forget OC your RAM and get your sticks ASAP, they are running out of stock
and manufacturers started transfering to DDR3

SATA HDD of course faster than IDE
WD Raptor 150 GB is the best
Also WD RE2 750GB is excellent one

------------------------------ LianLi PC-A70 Case/Enermaqx Galaxy 1000W/Asus Rampage Formula/E8500/Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme Lapped/Scythe S-Flex SFF21F/Crucial Ballistic Red Line DDR2800 PC6400(2X2)GB/8800GTS 512MB/WD Raptor2X150GB/ViewSonic VX922(1280X1024Max)
Reply to kad

Your MotherBoard has a Memory Default Voltage of 1.8volts.

Look at the Memory Voltage Specs. If you dont want to mess around with timings and voltage stick to what the motherboard was designed to run. 1.8volts

edit; RamList is working http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/


Message edited by rsetter1 on 05-22-2008 at 08:09:44 PM
Reply to rsetter1

Ok, I'm not going to OC memory. How did you figure out the voltage of my mobo? if it1.8 and ram is 2.2 then I'm screwed right?btw - does it have to be 4-4-4-x?

Just a little confused right now.

P.S. (I thought in order to OC cpu I would have to OC memory, now that I know it's not the case when I have 800mhtz ram, I wont OC it.)

I need to select 4 gig ducal Channel ddr2 ram from tigerdirect .ca or canadacomputers .ca

Advice is appreciated.

Reply to Anonymous

is it hard to change that mobo's voltage for ram to 2.2?

Reply to Anonymous

Page 45 and 46 in your manual you will find system voltages.
On page 46. When that screen is displaded hit Ctrl+F1 for advanced memory config.

Go to this Thread I think it will answer many questions with out me doing alot of typing:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] dated-2008

Reply to rsetter1

Thanks a lot guys! I will attempt to install/configure everything tonght and will let you know how things are :)

Reply to Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote :

Ok, I'm not going to OC memory. How did you figure out the voltage of my mobo? if it1.8 and ram is 2.2 then I'm screwed right?btw - does it have to be 4-4-4-x?

Just a little confused right now.

P.S. (I thought in order to OC cpu I would have to OC memory, now that I know it's not the case when I have 800mhtz ram, I wont OC it.)

I need to select 4 gig ducal Channel ddr2 ram from tigerdirect .ca or canadacomputers .ca

Advice is appreciated.


No you're not in aproblem
You can change Ram voltage from 1.8 to 2.1 or 2.2 if required
It is not abig issue 4-4-4-12
5-5-5-15 is ok
5-5-5-18 is also OK
In real life you'll not notice difference
even DDR2 1066 with timing 5-5-5-18(15) can work with you, you can if you want reduce timing to 4-4-4-12 even without changing voltage
All these memories will work with you
http://www.canadacomputers.com/ind [...] AM.346.307
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=2261
http://www.canadacomputers.com/ind [...] AM.346.307
http://www.canadacomputers.com/ind [...] AM.346.307
http://www.canadacomputers.com/ind [...] AM.346.307

------------------------------ LianLi PC-A70 Case/Enermaqx Galaxy 1000W/Asus Rampage Formula/E8500/Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme Lapped/Scythe S-Flex SFF21F/Crucial Ballistic Red Line DDR2800 PC6400(2X2)GB/8800GTS 512MB/WD Raptor2X150GB/ViewSonic VX922(1280X1024Max)
Reply to kad
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kad is right the difference between 5-5-5-x and 4-4-4-x isnt much but when u can afford an excellent RAM which is DDR2 800 with 4-4-4-x timings so why getting it ?
Also the difference between DDR2 800 and 1066 isnt even noticeable and all DDR2 1066 models have 5-5-5-x timings

However between those choices that Kad posted i would definitely choose this :

OCZ REAPER DDR2 800 RAM with 4-4-4-15
http://www.canadacomputers.com/ind [...] AM.346.307


I have 4x1GB OCZ DDR2 800 RAM with 4-4-4-15 timings with 2.1 voltage and they are solid i have them @ 712mhz with the same timings and voltage and i have my E6600 @ 3.2 perfectly stable, and the REAPER models have a better cooling so i recommend this one

------------------------------ Q6600@3.4+ TT V1 Cooler,SAPPHIRE HD 4870X2,ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA,4GB OCZ DDR2 800,LG W2452V 1920x1200
Reply to Maziar

Thanks for the advise and replies guys!

I went and bought some stuff today, here's the goods:

mobo: GIGABYTE P35 DS3L
cpu: E8400
ram: Patriot Viper 2x 2gb ddr2 800mhz 4-4-4-12
hdrive: ST3500320AS - 500gig sata2 segate, 32mb cahce

I'm a little concerned about the hard drive, Some people have mentioned on newegg it fails... 32mb cache is so tempting though...

I will assemble it tomorrow, Do I need anything other than setting the ram voltage to 2.2? Any tips/advise is appreciated.

Once I have everything running smoothly I will start reading up about OCing and give it a try. Since my mobo has 1333 mhtz fsb, will it still overclock? say to 1600mhz so that I can run it 1:1 with my ram?

Thanks guys, you rock!

Reply to Anonymous

BTW, if it weren't for you guys, I would have probably bought some garbage mobo and ram:) thanks for advising!

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