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Just got my e7200 ordered! USA

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April 29, 2008 2:31:00 AM

Do you really hope to gain anything over your current processor?
April 29, 2008 2:46:45 AM

Well since I have a e2180 at 3.0, Ummmm Ya! This baby at 333FSB on stock volts is the same frequency as the e8500 that cost much more.

Running this at 333FSB x 9.5 @ $100+ less then a e8500 is a bargain! Not to mention this can hit 4.0 with a good air cooler and a good mobo.

The only differece between this and the e8500 both running 1333 is the cache. e8500/6mb vs e7200 3mb cache.

All the benches I've seen Cache dont matter much at all. So basically ya I do hope to gain.

Most software dont take advantage of huge amounts of cache. Frequency beats cache any day.

E8500 is C0 stepping and this is M0 stepping.
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April 29, 2008 2:56:32 AM

I would have stuck with the e2180 until closer to the end of the year. By then the quads may have come down in price and you could have jumped on something like the q9300 or q9450.

I'm sure the e7200 will do nicely though. :) 
April 29, 2008 3:05:24 AM

Its time to hit the 4.o club. I dont need a quad for what I do, so the extra MHz will fit me better. I got a new case and mobo already and my current rig is supposed to be sold when a friend gets his Goverment Stimulus Rebate any day now.

I want to try this out anyhow because I thnk I'm gonna offer it in my lowend custom builds. I like to build sytems for the least amount possible without sacraficing performance, so I can undercut the other guys using more expensive parts.

A 3.3 e7200 will out becnh a 3.16 e8500 no problem. Alienwares e8500 system with sli 8800GTs will be about $2200-2300. I can sell the same thing for $1300 and make out like a bandit.
April 29, 2008 3:13:53 AM

Let see..

E7200 OEM TigerDirect.com $159.99 USD
E7200 OEM TigerDirect.ca $195.99CAD
E7200 Retail NCIX.com $155.38CAD (not instock)
E8400 Retail DirectCanada.com $198.88CAD

and my local store have the E7200 Retail at $149.99CAD

April 29, 2008 3:32:53 AM

Well I got no local shop so the $10 extra aint no thing. And even If I could get one out of town it would cost atleast $20 for gas to get to a place that might have one.

$149.00 for retail is a great bargain though. I have a Artic freezer 7 lapped at home so I dont need the Intel cooler.
April 29, 2008 4:24:03 AM

I am refering to the price TigerDirect.ca charge for the E7200 OEM which cost few bucks less than the E8400 from DirectCanada..and these are both Canadian compagnies..

How does the Artic Freezer 7 work for u? It's a good CPU cooler? What thermal paste u using?
April 29, 2008 2:02:00 PM

Well the first go on my current e2180 SUCKED. Idled 50c. I slapped the stock cooler on and got Idle 40c.

I inspected the artic and found the bottom was like sand paper. Now I have lapped it and I'm going to give it a go on this new CPU. It has officially shipped, so it should be here Friday. I'm going to use artic silver 5. I will post my results on Friday.

My e2180 will post at 3.8 on my mobo but she gets real hot on the stock cooler, so she is running 3.0 atm. At 3.3 she hits 70c and prime shuts down 1 core. I expect atleast 3.8 stable with the freezer on this chip being lapped and all. If it hits 4 I'll be stoked, if not I'll buy a better cooler.

I paid about $40.00 to much for this one but its a hot item so you know. Like I said I want to use it in lots of builds once the price stables out. I'm anxious to test it, so I know what step I want to take on upgrading my product line.
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April 29, 2008 7:12:57 PM

Not bad. Man I wish I was building a new gaming computer. Now that quads are all the rage the duals are dirt cheap. That's a nice processor you found there.
April 29, 2008 7:17:08 PM

Each to their own ofcourse, but I never see the point in buying just because it's the 'latest', when I actually need an upgrade then I'll upgrade.
May 2, 2008 2:37:37 AM

$149 at tiger now and newegg has it for $134.99 + free shipping. Guess I paid $25 to get it first:( 

If it runs 3.8-4.0 Ill be gettin another one from newegg.
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May 2, 2008 9:53:48 PM

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If you are planing on getting RAM natively higher than DDR2 800 be aware that there will be compatibility issues. Many users reports and my personal testing has shown that there is a very good chance you will run in to issues with RAM higher than DDR2 800, such as DDR2 1066. I recommend you get quality DDR2 800 RAM and run them at 1:1 ratio or overclock the RAM. This issue dose not apply to DDR2 800 RAM that has been overclocked.


And if interested post your OC here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...

May 2, 2008 9:57:41 PM

Running 1:1 right now gettin ready to test 400x9=3600. 60c idle, 72c underload. HOTTTT!!. No matter what she wont go under 52c idle. I tried different coolers and different thermal pastes, tried applying paste different ways. I think she has a bad sensor.
May 4, 2008 12:16:53 PM

Are u the person put the 1st comment on Neweggs for the E7200? Anyway how can I tell if it's revision M0 on the chip itself? Thanks!
May 4, 2008 1:31:46 PM

Ya. I'm the one on newegg. I need to update that a little. Only gripe is this chip runs hot out of the box. The good thing is she dont go up much only like 10c while feeding her .4 extra volts. I think all retails are M0, but dont hold me to it.
Intel lists them as M0 on the official specs. The I bought ws from tiger and its a OEM C0. I got her running 4.0 stable in everything except prime. She needs about .3-.4 more volts to be prime stable but not til I get a better cooler.
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May 4, 2008 2:32:02 PM

That sounds a little high. What were the temps @ stock? Weren't there rumors about the 45nm chips having bad sensors?
May 4, 2008 5:24:00 PM

EXT64 said:
That sounds a little high. What were the temps @ stock? Weren't there rumors about the 45nm chips having bad sensors?



Temps at stock were 53C. Bad sensor im thinking. Nothing I can do because it was OEM and they wont accept returns unless it dont work, and technically it works. 65c is the max temp intel recomends, and I dont exceed that at stock.

If i burn it up, oh well. Still got a e2180 for backup, and I'll buy a retail version next go around.
May 4, 2008 5:24:09 PM

EXT64 said:
That sounds a little high. What were the temps @ stock? Weren't there rumors about the 45nm chips having bad sensors?



Temps at stock were 53C. Bad sensor im thinking. Nothing I can do because it was OEM and they wont accept returns unless it dont work, and technically it works. 65c is the max temp intel recomends, and I dont exceed that at stock.

If i burn it up, oh well. Still got a e2180 for backup, and I'll buy a retail version next go around.
May 4, 2008 5:37:06 PM

roadrunner197069 said:
Temps at stock were 53C. Bad sensor im thinking. Nothing I can do because it was OEM and they wont accept returns unless it dont work, and technically it works. 65c is the max temp intel recomends, and I dont exceed that at stock.

If i burn it up, oh well. Still got a e2180 for backup, and I'll buy a retail version next go around.

Assuming bad temp sensor is wishful thinking. It's better to press your finger to it and feel the burn, just to be sure. :na: 
May 4, 2008 5:41:44 PM

There is no burn front or back. Tried differnt coolers and pastes and she wont go under 53c no matter what. Shes listed as M0 stepping from Intel but I got a C0 which the 8xxx series are. I think Intel rolled the bad 8xxx series into the OEM 7xxx series to try to keep things on the down low. I'm pretty sure the M0 stepping doesnt have a problem. All the C0 vs M0 that I have seen the M0 runs lots cooler.
May 4, 2008 6:35:33 PM

roadrunner197069 said:
There is no burn front or back. Tried differnt coolers and pastes and she wont go under 53c no matter what. Shes listed as M0 stepping from Intel but I got a C0 which the 8xxx series are. I think Intel rolled the bad 8xxx series into the OEM 7xxx series to try to keep things on the down low. I'm pretty sure the M0 stepping doesnt have a problem. All the C0 vs M0 that I have seen the M0 runs lots cooler.

Sounds good then. Even if the constant 53c is real, it's max load temp that matters. Who cares if it idles a bit high.
May 22, 2008 8:26:57 PM

From what I've seen, the E7200's IHS is not glued to the core, so it's an easy removal. Literally pops right off. Google it and check if you're interested.
May 22, 2008 11:21:48 PM

I got mine at 3.2 with a Xigmatek HDT-S963 (small case), and mine idles around 34c, stay around mid-high 40s under load. Hightest I've had it get up to was 59c, but that was at 3.6, and I didn't bother trying to get it stable as I was tired as hell. I'll be fine tuning it further for sure though. Great CPU for the money.
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May 23, 2008 2:05:10 AM

@roadrunner: What software are you using for temp readings? CoreTemp is noted to report +/-10-15C vs the real temp.
May 23, 2008 2:12:23 AM

Both. It was a bad sensor for sure. No worrys she didnt go over 68 under stress at 3.8.

I sold that computer any how. Gonna build 1 2180, 1 7200, and one 8400, next week. All sold already. :( 

Soon I'll have enough for my quad core system for me. :) 
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