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September 3, 2009 12:28:06 AM

I dont really have any religous points to make but I saw that this section was requested a few days ago.
My up bringing taught me that when you ask for something you should use it.
It isnt religous but courteous.
Besides I wanted to be the first to post in a section.
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September 4, 2009 5:42:54 AM

I'm athiest. Religions are BS.
September 4, 2009 6:08:16 AM

Probably a good idea to have one here as many times as I've prayed for an answer to my most confounding pc issues!
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September 4, 2009 6:26:58 AM

Catholic. Just converted in the spring.
September 4, 2009 7:45:13 AM

Atheist. No one religion has convinced me.

I do however believe that if a religion encourages people to live good lives then it's not all bad, but people who kill over religion spoil it for the rest!
September 4, 2009 7:55:56 AM

This is going to sound smartass, but that's not my intention.

I was raised Catholic, but as I grew up, I found myself disagreeing with the Pope on too many topics.
September 4, 2009 8:42:44 AM

Taoist.
September 4, 2009 8:51:33 AM

agreed with Mi1ez. I'm atheist as well.
September 4, 2009 9:17:32 AM

jsc said:
This is going to sound smartass, but that's not my intention.

I was raised Catholic, but as I grew up, I found myself disagreeing with the Pope on too many topics.



Not to the fact that the majority of the major catholics in history were based on violent actions of death, prostitution, extortion, rape, pillage and sex has nothing to do with it and the church carrying on that a lot of priests were in fact paedophiles raping.

Or to the fact that dead babies bodies were found in monastries due to the marriage to god of nuns being celebate.


What i do believe in is mother nature, the right and wrong, the ying and yang if you like and the belief in the paranomral - ghosts and aliens.

any thing else is a convenient mind controlling system which makes money for others, other than the people who follow, not for its real purpose which is peace and harmony amoungst human beings regardless of race, creed and gender.

If I was God , I would have moved to the next planet long ago and given up - when George Bush came in
September 4, 2009 9:55:11 AM

The closest I get to a religion is tending to think the world revolves around me,

;) 
September 4, 2009 10:26:41 AM



This thread has been touched by his noodily appendage
Ramen
September 4, 2009 10:46:01 AM

Hellboy said:
What i do believe in is mother nature, the right and wrong, the ying and yang if you like and the belief in the paranomral - ghosts and aliens.

any thing else is a convenient mind controlling system which makes money for others, other than the people who follow, not for its real purpose which is peace and harmony amoungst human beings regardless of race, creed and gender.

If I was God , I would have moved to the next planet long ago and given up - when George Bush came in

I share that view with you too. I've had people in my family experience paranormal instances in their lives and it is pretty damn scary of what they told me so I definitely believe in the spirit world.

As for aliens, I think we are not alone in the universe. Each of us are a tiny insignificant part in a vast solar system, which is part of many solar systems and stars that lies within our galaxy. And among those galaxies, there are billion of other galaxies in our universe. Just by the concept of sheer probability alone and the vastness of space, there has to be other life out there. We are not that special to be alone. I really hope in our lifetime, we will witness first contact. -goose bumps- :p 
September 4, 2009 12:00:03 PM

I am an Objectivist, which is a philosophy, not a religion. Personal belief is fine, but Organized Religion is the worst scourge that mankind has ever wrought upon itself. Catholicism in particular comes to mind. Osama bin Towel's brand of Islam is small potatoes by comparison.
I have found the talks given at www.bswa.org among the least objectionable I have heard, however. I particularly liked the one about revealed vs. realized religion.
September 4, 2009 9:15:19 PM

Religion is such a non issue that it does not deserve even a second thought, I mean when it comes down to it, what reason do people have to believe in anything.

Ignorance, a few thousand year old suspect writings and a desire to maintain preferential social hierarchy's.
September 4, 2009 10:02:18 PM

i believe in god
September 4, 2009 10:52:03 PM

Hellboy said:
looks like a mutated male sterial operation accident.


That, my friend, would be the flying spaghetti monster.

Personally, I'm an atheist Jew. I like the culture, holidays, food, etc. but I don't believe in god, I don't pray, and I don't follow most Jewish "laws" (such as Kosher, not driving on the sabbath, etc.). I attended orthodox Jewish school for a period as a kid, and my classmates made fun of me because I wasn't as religious as them. That experience, as well as a frustration towards having religion stuffed down my throat for so many years as a child, led me to develop a strong distaste for god, prayer, and many teachings of Judaism.

I still consider myself Jewish, as I like the holidays and culture (and the food), but I don't believe that one has to live according to a religion in order to be a good, moral, honest person. I try to be tolerant and respectful of other people's religious beliefs; I'm totally fine with religion as long as people don't try to stuff their beliefs down other people's throats, or use religion as an excuse for things such as terrorist attacks, etc. I'm all in favor of a seperation between church and state; one group and their religious beliefs should not dictate how everyone else can live their lives.

*rant over
September 4, 2009 10:59:23 PM



Well to me it looks like mutated testicals which is fed up with life and wants to go to Disneyland.

I cant believe that some one gave you jip because you werent that religious angry_ducky ( still cant stop laughing at the word ducky), when i was school if you were religious you got jip for that.

Anyhow God does exist because he created a Silver Thunderbird, Harley Davidson's and Angelina Jolie, Oreo Cookies, Hagendaz Ice Cream, Commodore Amigas and Reliant Robins for a joke.

On Aliens.

There is just no way that we are alone, no matter what anyone says and there is more than one "other species" in the space around out solar system. Period.

Regardless or not our future is space exploration.
September 4, 2009 11:55:10 PM

Hellboy said:
What i do believe in is mother nature


Same here. I never really found the point of religion. I don't find any other creature paying to a god. They go where life takes them. I do the same.
September 4, 2009 11:58:12 PM

Hellboy said:

On Aliens.

There is just no way that we are alone, no matter what anyone says and there is more than one "other species" in the space around out solar system. Period.

Regardless or not our future is space exploration.


I share your thoughts. Regardless of whether or not we ever find them, the universe is just so vast that there must be life elsewhere in it.

One thing that I find truly humbling, and almost frightening is the sheer vastness of the universe. Other life out in the universe might be so far away that, by the time we could reach them, life on earth could be over. When you begin thinking in light-years, the few thousand years of recorded human history seem so inconsequential.
September 5, 2009 10:52:34 AM

There are some pretty interesting points made above.
I actually find myself right in the middle of them.
I believe in religous not religion.
You can belive in who or what you want but as Milez states
"I do however believe that if a religion encourages people to live good lives then it's not all bad, but people who kill over religion spoil it for the rest!"

And as Hellboy wrote :

What i do believe in is mother nature, the right and wrong, the ying and yang if you like and the belief in the paranomral - ghosts and aliens.


any thing else is a convenient mind controlling system which makes money for others, other than the people who follow, not for its real purpose which is peace and harmony amoungst human beings regardless of race, creed and gender.

I dont understand the entire religion setup.
One church will have you do things such as fasting, and another church will have you not eat meat, and yet others think that it is ok to have Holy Wars where a lot of people die, all in the name of religion.
A religous person would be against that.

September 5, 2009 11:45:48 AM

God hates religion.
September 5, 2009 11:55:23 AM

strangestranger said:
Religion is such a non issue that it does not deserve even a second thought, I mean when it comes down to it, what reason do people have to believe in anything.

Ignorance, a few thousand year old suspect writings and a desire to maintain preferential social hierarchy's.


Maybe the reason that you are alive!!! and just by looking all around you, whether we were created humans or we evolved from some unicellular creature, the creation of life is "perfect"(biologically speaking) and I think that is ignorant not to believe in "God" (or however you'll call him)
September 5, 2009 2:16:05 PM

Who created the creator /thread.
September 5, 2009 6:18:17 PM

pat mcgroin said:
There are some pretty interesting points made above.
I actually find myself right in the middle of them.
I believe in religous not religion.
You can belive in who or what you want but as Milez states
"I do however believe that if a religion encourages people to live good lives then it's not all bad, but people who kill over religion spoil it for the rest!"

And as Hellboy wrote :

What i do believe in is mother nature, the right and wrong, the ying and yang if you like and the belief in the paranomral - ghosts and aliens.


any thing else is a convenient mind controlling system which makes money for others, other than the people who follow, not for its real purpose which is peace and harmony amoungst human beings regardless of race, creed and gender.

I dont understand the entire religion setup.
One church will have you do things such as fasting, and another church will have you not eat meat, and yet others think that it is ok to have Holy Wars where a lot of people die, all in the name of religion.
A religous person would be against that.



Al Qaeda is based on control and has nothing to do with real muslims. Al Qaeda makes its money illegally be it from drugs etc and the muslim issue is a front to try and make all muslims turn against the west which has failed.
Only a few in comparison have been involved in attrocities around the globe.

The Muslim religion is a peacefull as much as true Christianity and true Jews are. Unfortunately there are good and bad in all walks of life.
September 5, 2009 9:21:39 PM

strangestranger said:
Who created the creator /thread.


I'm not trying to change your believing. I'm just giving my point of view. Also if any body wants to go that way and truly believe that creation was an accident then what if the creator was the accident and he created us. There are mysteries in life that we won't be able to answer. By the way it doesn't matter how much you shake a puzzle the thing is not going to put itself together and the whole creation is a giant puzzle with every piece in the right place. That is just the way I see it. You need somebody to put the thing together.
September 5, 2009 9:27:30 PM

I am your god, kneel before and massage my own noodly appendage!!!

I reckon you haven't had an independant thought in your life and if someone hadn't suggested religion or you had grown up in a society which never mentioned it but taught you how to think properly you would laugh at the suggestion of some mastermind all powerful creator(seriously just think about this).

September 5, 2009 10:22:49 PM


Also if GOD was a supreme being.

Then an alien is a supreme being and there for GOD is an alien...
September 5, 2009 10:23:13 PM

Maybe he never learned to use his noodle.
September 5, 2009 10:40:14 PM

Hellboy said:
Also if GOD was a supreme being.

Then an alien is a supreme being and there for GOD is an alien...


Just because all boys are humans does not mean that all humans are boys.
September 5, 2009 10:46:45 PM

pito said:
Just because all boys are humans does not mean that all humans are boys.



But this goes far beyond boys and their toys.
September 5, 2009 10:47:46 PM

Religion? I'm not religious. That's about the most accurate thing I can say as religion is something that doesn't even cross my mind. I guess technically that would be atheism, but a lot of prominent atheists are actually anti-theists. They hate religion and actively work to destroy it in such stupid ways as banning the use of the word "Christmas" and other idiotic publicity stunts. I personally don't care if somebody else is religious. I don't have problems with calling the holiday on December 25th "Christmas" or with people displaying Nativity scenes, praying at the flag pole before school, or refusing to eat pork. It doesn't bother me one bit as long as they don't try to preach to me or get blue laws passed. So I suppose just saying I'm not religious is the most accurate ways to describe my beliefs.
September 5, 2009 11:02:13 PM

MU_Engineer said:
I thought better of my post and edited it a bit.


What cracks me up is that Christmas Day is more near a Pagan Ritual than Jesus's Birthday... Wasnt he really born in October !!!

And Pagan follow witchcraft etc
September 5, 2009 11:28:23 PM

Hellboy said:
What cracks me up is that Christmas Day is more near a Pagan Ritual than Jesus's Birthday... Wasnt he really born in October !!!

And Pagan follow witchcraft etc


Just to add to what cracks me up to:
Most holidays now days had drifted far away from what was really celebrated for,

Christmas is for Santa Claus Not Jesus' birthday. Where does a fat man in a red suit fits in the whole story of Jesus birthday?

San Valentine's Day, people don’t even know why we celebrate that. Or who was the guy Yes he was a real person. If you are wondering here is some info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine's_Day

Easter Day or Easter Sunday, is suppose to be the day that Jesus was resurrected, 3 days after his crucifixion. What the f%<# a bunny has to do in all of this?

Thanksgiving day, a day to give grace. Today is all about the turkey.

Holidays are commercialize now. Jesus might not sale but Santa brings presents. Crucifixion... naaa!!! a bunny in a egg hunt sells more ***. And so on, so on. You get the point.
September 6, 2009 1:31:53 AM

I do not believe in a deity as conceived by most religions, yet I am endlessly thankful for the priceless gift of existence.

I do not consider myself religious, yet I marvel in awe at the cosmos and the amazements it has wrought.

I do not believe in heaven as portrayed by organized religion, yet I humbly admit that my ignorance of the boundless possibilities of the universe is incalculably greater than my knowledge.

I place little faith in anyone who claims to have all the answers.
September 6, 2009 11:48:01 AM

Hellboy said:
What cracks me up is that Christmas Day is more near a Pagan Ritual than Jesus's Birthday... Wasnt he really born in October !!!

And Pagan follow witchcraft etc

Christmas is a celebration/commemoration of Jesus' birth, not his actual birthday. It would be like celebrating Independence Day on August 28th because you don't know the actual day.
September 25, 2009 9:57:11 PM

Excellent discussion guys, keep up the good work.

:) 
September 27, 2009 1:44:34 PM

Excellent.

I am with the Spagetti Monster ...

Pike and SS ... shouldn't we encourage MugZ to set us all straight on this matter?

Or is he still on vacation?

The last time I asked him for advice he called down lightning bolts on me ...
September 27, 2009 4:11:46 PM

mi1ez said:
Atheist. No one religion has convinced me.

I do however believe that if a religion encourages people to live good lives then it's not all bad, but people who kill over religion spoil it for the rest!

+1
September 28, 2009 6:48:49 AM

If God was a creation, He was created by man anyways.
Going back as far as we can go with writings for the Judeo-Christians, there were sacrifices to be made, at a time in a world where people died by late thirties, no medicines, little knowledge, and bounty was nature itself, not a new hybridized dna split seed.
So, these people sacrificed heavily, to plaese God. Why? No one was forcing them at that time. No one made anyone follow, but follow they did anyhow. Why? If God is just a man made story, why?
September 28, 2009 6:52:04 AM

Because In God We Trust.
September 28, 2009 12:59:47 PM

All i know, is that every day when i work on Dell servers and an <insert 3 letter company name> SAN, Hell is alive and well.
October 11, 2009 12:07:26 PM

Religion is the greatest scam ever, period. To put the fear of God into someone, so they will stay in line or be good citizens. Religion takes in billions of dollars a year and pays absolutely no taxes, that's a great business model. Is anyone really surprised that pregnancy control is forbidden in most organized religions? Maybe they want to make as many Christians, or Catholics, or Jews as possible. Religion is a clever way to increase your societies numbers, while keeping them in line, with a high level of control, IE the fear of god.
November 1, 2009 2:09:29 PM

Religion is for the weak. The function of the church was to obtain power and control through fear and the promise of punishment not only in this life but in the afterlife. The church is a vile creation that has done more harm to human kind than they could ever confess and say hail mary to repent for. If your gonna argue that without religion people would not, and are not capable of living peacefull courteous lives with basic moral values then we should be very afraid of any man who "needs" GOD to make him a good person because, what if he realized that god was fake? Would he then throwout all moral values because "hey" NO HELL NO CONSIQUENCE lets rape and steal and murder. If your that weak that you need a god to save you then you are hopeless. EVERY MAN IS GOD, GOD IS IN YOU, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO YOU PRAY TO, BUT YOU FAIL TO SEE THIS AND YOU NEVER ANSWER YOUR OWN PRAYERS. YOU KEEP WAITING FOR HIM TO ARRIVE BUT HE IS ALREADY HERE INSIDE YOUR OWN MIND.
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