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the unsung hero...came in very quietly:hail the 8800GS

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April 11, 2008 12:22:18 PM

the followling contains a dangerous review.Addiction has been reported.VIEWERS BEWARE!!!!!!! :non: 


http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/articles/view.php?id=250...



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April 11, 2008 12:37:09 PM

Performance is pretty bad. The gpu is severely crippled. :p 
April 11, 2008 12:50:05 PM

dunno, the 9600 was hailed as a wonderful low cost card and this beats it for the most part overall. Other than it folds like a cheap lawn chair in Crysis but I wouldn't expect to play crysis on this anyways...

For the price its quite good. I wish my Dell M1330 laptop had this instead of the 8400GS, now that sucker is slow, and it can still run Crysis in Low, just don't look very pretty.
a b U Graphics card
April 11, 2008 12:53:02 PM

dagger said:
Performance is pretty bad. The gpu is severely crippled. :p 

Ah comeon, that's harsh. :cry:  Without FSAA it hangs with the HD3870 and 9600GT. And the evga clocked the same as this Asus is $110 shipped AR on newegg. The 8800GS is outstanding for the money. It's obviously not going to hand with the 8800GT with fsaa, but still it's a nice card.
a b U Graphics card
April 11, 2008 12:56:47 PM

warezme said:
dunno, the 9600 was hailed as a wonderful low cost card and this beats it for the most part overall. Other than it folds like a cheap lawn chair in Crysis but I wouldn't expect to play crysis on this anyways...

For the price its quite good. I wish my Dell M1330 laptop had this instead of the 8400GS, now that sucker is slow, and it can still run Crysis in Low, just don't look very pretty.

It only folds in crysis with fsaa which no single gpu card really remains all that playable. The mem hurts it, but it does much better than the 8800GT 256MB that really tanks. I was running some crysis tests on an 8800GS last night and played a bit. 12x10 it does pretty decent.

It would be a nice mobile solution for sure.
a c 147 U Graphics card
April 11, 2008 1:54:50 PM

If i was on the cheap, I'd get the 8800GS. however i'd pony up the few extra bucks for the 9600Gt because it does better with AA and AF and I like CANDY!
April 11, 2008 3:08:31 PM

but how bout the its worthiness compared to 3850?
April 11, 2008 3:17:32 PM

area61 said:
but how bout the its worthiness compared to 3850?


I believe they are equivalent, possibly favoring the 8800GS, and to finish it off the 8800GS can be had for a very affordable $110 like the guy mentioned above. If you want details warm up the ol' google engine.
April 11, 2008 3:24:53 PM

yup thats darn cheap but how long its gonna last ???since 9 series are already nearing EOL!!
April 11, 2008 3:42:40 PM

It'll last as long as the games you play allow it to, basically depending on your taste it can last a day or three years.
a c 1363 U Graphics card
April 11, 2008 4:18:03 PM

It seams to me it is the perfect card for a guy gaming at no higher than 1280x1024 with no near future plans to upgrade monitor and that is a big group of people with 19" 4x3 LCDs
April 11, 2008 4:18:18 PM

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I wonder why they used a 256mb 3850 and didnt include a 256mb 8800GT.


I think they were leaning towards closer prices to keep the price the control and have the performance be the comparable variable.

Getting a 8800GT with only 256MB however is like getting a Ferrari and putting 87 Octane in it :kaola: 
April 11, 2008 4:22:19 PM

bildo123 said:
I think they were leaning towards closer prices to keep the price the control and have the performance be the comparable variable.

Getting a 8800GT with only 256MB however is like getting a Ferrari and putting 87 Octane in it :kaola: 


u think its wise to get 8800gs than the 8800gt 256mb? :sweat: 
a c 147 U Graphics card
April 11, 2008 4:36:59 PM

area61 said:
u think its wise to get 8800gs than the 8800gt 256mb? :sweat: 

Yes because if you get a 8800GT 256 you may as well pay the $10 to get the 512MB. There is a significant price difference between the GT and GS.
April 11, 2008 4:57:10 PM

area61 said:
u think its wise to get 8800gs than the 8800gt 256mb? :sweat: 


Depends on how big the wallet is but like jay said I don't know why anybody in the right mind would get a 88GT 256 at the prices the cards are at now.(Cmon a 8800GTS 512 for $200 :sol:  ), but the cards in focus in my head were 3850 256MB and 8800GS. an 8800GT wouldn't really fit the price that was in that benchmark since it seems as though the price was the 'control' for the bench.
April 11, 2008 5:14:27 PM

bildo123 said:
Depends on how big the wallet is but like jay said I don't know why anybody in the right mind would get a 88GT 256 at the prices the cards are at now.(Cmon a 8800GTS 512 for $200 :sol:  ), but the cards in focus in my head were 3850 256MB and 8800GS. an 8800GT wouldn't really fit the price that was in that benchmark since it seems as though the price was the 'control' for the bench.



guess what...im hovering over them too.my budget doesnt stretch that far to get the GTS.anyway, which one u bought?
April 11, 2008 5:20:15 PM

area61 said:
guess what...im hovering over them too.my budget doesnt stretch that far to get the GTS.anyway, which one u bought?


Way back in Novemeber I was able to get a BFG 8800GT OC for $237, for the time that was nice since everyone and their mother was charging near the $300 limit for the damn things. I even actually had the fancy MSI one with the heatpipes on order from buy.com and it was canceled on January thats right just about 2~3 months after the fact I 'bought' it.
April 11, 2008 5:29:27 PM

thats right,i doubt they would do it as the GS is as if almost doesnt exsist
April 11, 2008 5:43:09 PM

are u serious??? r u really getting one???whats ur current rig?
a b U Graphics card
April 11, 2008 5:48:19 PM

Hey man, they had an overclocked version of the 8800 gs, and from some reveiews I read, can't remember where exactly, but if you google it, its there, that's where I found it. But when overclocked to like 650 mhz core, I think it was hanging with and maybe beating in some things, the 9600gt. Personally, for the money, I think later I'll be buying the oc'd version.
April 11, 2008 5:49:55 PM

u shuld see the link above.that review u said was done by tweaktown though
April 11, 2008 5:53:26 PM

The 8800GS does overclock decently and can beat the 9600GT. BTW lol I'm not really going to buy one, I already own a nicely OC 8800 GT with a sexy Accellero S2 cooler on it (with the turbo module fans). But If a friend had a pci-express slot open and was hard on cash but needed a nice fix I would recommend him the 88GS.
April 11, 2008 5:54:46 PM

ohiou_grad_06 said:
Hey man, they had an overclocked version of the 8800 gs, and from some reveiews I read, can't remember where exactly, but if you google it, its there, that's where I found it. But when overclocked to like 650 mhz core, I think it was hanging with and maybe beating in some things, the 9600gt. Personally, for the money, I think later I'll be buying the oc'd version.


go ahead bro...mayb u shuld post a small review of it :sol: 
a b U Graphics card
April 11, 2008 5:56:18 PM

Like I said, I'll probably pick one up later for the money it's hard to argue with. Looks like it gives decent performance, and being married with a full time job and all, don't have the time for games like I used to. So seems it would be a good fit.
April 11, 2008 6:02:55 PM

What resolution do you plan at playing at, just curious.
April 11, 2008 6:09:20 PM

who me? i have a 17 samsung lcd so its just 1280x1024.back to the card,yup ive made my mind im gonna thrash my sapphire HD3850 256 for this one.but then again maybe not,ill give the sapphy to my cousin(sell it of course).hehehe
a b U Graphics card
April 11, 2008 6:09:27 PM

I'll prob go with something like a 19 inch lcd widescreen. Right now I'm still on a 19 inch crt. So I'll probably grab the video card and new psu first, then a monitor later. And I've got the option to sli, so later I could always do that.

So probably either 1280x1024 or 1600x1200. Consider too, until late last year I actually had an old socket a system, Athlon XP 2800, ATI radeon 9600, it had done well, but was getting old. So I've recently moved into AM2, got a 5200 x2, 2 gb memory, seagate sata drive. But still a 7300 LE that I picked up from ebay as a fill in card for like 13 bucks till I could pick up something better. So you can imagine that will be quite an upgrade from what I'm running now. But it'll be a couple months, got more important stuff right now, but maybe I'll put something up on it if/when I get it, but if I can grab one for 110 after rebate for an overclocked version off newegg, that's hard to argue with.
April 11, 2008 6:10:44 PM

1 thing to note is that at 1280x1024, the differnce is hard to tell! :lol: 
April 11, 2008 6:12:33 PM

area61 said:
who me? i have a 17 samsung lcd so its just 1280x1024.back to the card,yup ive made my mind im gonna thrash my sapphire HD3850 256 for this one.but then again maybe not,ill give the sapphy to my cousin(sell it of course).hehehe


Woh woh wait a sec, you already own a 3850 256mb? If thats the case just keep it. I thought you wanted to upgrade from an older generation card or something
April 11, 2008 6:14:30 PM

nah....that was a defective card..artifacts! lol.i just wanted a better bang for the buck :sol: 
April 11, 2008 6:21:02 PM

bougt the sapphy for $170...what a waste!!!at least i shuld have waited 4 the price cut and now its retailn 4 $140!just pisses me off.then came the artifact prob..never knew whether it was the gc or pcthe sappy worked well in cousins pc and his hd3870 worked well in my rig...selling it to him so he could cfx it.yes he wanted it badly!
April 11, 2008 6:23:21 PM

area61 said:
go ahead bro...mayb u shuld post a small review of it :sol: 


I already did a small review in my sig. :sol: 

I would say they are about equal. 8800gs is usually the better raw performer than 9600gt including AF. With AA though that's where 9600gt usually wins out because of more bandwidth and extra 128mb of vram. We are talking about 5fps average here though or some ridiculous settings you can't really play with either card . Nothing to sneeze about. Either way you should be good with either card.

20-22" monitor I would go with 9600gt but would be better with a 8800gt.

19" monitor it really doesn't matter if you go with 9600gt, 3850, or 8800gs.. I would go with whatever is cheaper and right for your needs.

I even played Crysis @ very high detail on my 19" monitor using the DX9 very high detail hack. It pulls 25fps on the GPU test which is decent enough.
April 11, 2008 6:27:07 PM

all right.im gonna get it at a local store.
@ marvelous, u have a point, if he?she can afford a 22'' monitor,for sure he/she want to get the 8800gt. otherwise,its just a waste!
April 11, 2008 6:46:30 PM

You should get the EVGA model because they all have 1ns memory rated for 1000mhz.
April 11, 2008 7:29:05 PM

I am not sure about this review. It really paints the 8800GT 256 in much better light than most places (anand, toms, etc)
a b U Graphics card
April 12, 2008 1:26:19 AM

Quote:
I wonder why they used a 256mb 3850 and didnt include a 256mb 8800GT.

The OP link has the 8800GS, HD3850 256MB and the 8800GT 256MB. With performance and current USA prices the 256MB 8800GT makes no sense. It tanks at 12x10 in some games, especially with fsaa enabled.
April 12, 2008 2:39:32 AM

how i wished eggy had the asus TOP card...BTW 256Mb 8800gt blasts hell only on lower res...at which difference that is noticeable is hardly....
April 12, 2008 3:53:46 AM

The only thing about this is that it's comparing the 384 MB version. I honestly wonder how the even rarer 768 MB version would have done. It's already substantially higher clocked than the 384 MB version, and is much closer, maybe even better than the 9600 GT at stock. On top of that, it can overclock even higher. Honestly, I really wish that card was put out there more.
April 12, 2008 6:41:38 AM

when u can pick up a good 8800gs for only $100 and a good 9600gt for like 130ish, then uh yeah the 8800gs wins hands down!!!

$100 for some pretty damn good performance for mid to lwoer resolutions!
April 12, 2008 9:16:02 AM

Darkness Flame said:
The only thing about this is that it's comparing the 384 MB version. I honestly wonder how the even rarer 768 MB version would have done. It's already substantially higher clocked than the 384 MB version, and is much closer, maybe even better than the 9600 GT at stock. On top of that, it can overclock even higher. Honestly, I really wish that card was put out there more.


You can easily clock the 384mb version much higher than 768mb version. Everyone should overclock these days. Even 3rd party manufacturers do it and cover on their warranty. :hello: 
April 12, 2008 2:49:49 PM

pardon me....but the oc version of the 8800gs seems to be the bang for the buck.its cheap and matches the 9600gt
April 12, 2008 3:09:22 PM

s the hynix 1.1 memory chips good for ocing??
a b U Graphics card
April 12, 2008 3:26:34 PM

I bought the superclocked model for $10 more because I wanted to test it at is's stock clocks. But, with the OCs marvelous has it would seem they both use identical memory...they are the same card just bios settings are different. SO if you don't oc yourself and want to buy the superclocked model, go for it. Or save $10 (+ shipping) and grab the plain one and go beyond those superclock speeds yourself.
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