Well, since Im a you guys guy (whatever that means) do a check on the posts. Its true. Did I say anything in regards to anything other than it was a disappointment? Glad you said all that about Wolfdales, as its all true. But still, I read what I read. Check the posts. Why does this upset you so much? Im not spreading FUD, just looking at the responses , the posts, the recomendations. I cant believe that what Ive said isnt so, but Im innocent until proven guilty. Tell me whats been recomended here more than anything else? Wolfdale? (since its been out) or the older 65nm? Let me see, a brand new line comes out, but its not recomended? OK, Ill give you a cost effect, but we are enthusiasts arent we? Therefore? We want the most we can get, bang for the buck sometimes, but sometimes just the best. OK, going by your logic, the best is the oldest not the newest. OCs better, cheaper. Now lets go to the newest. It takes less power. How enthusiastic is that? I see a slight let down for us enthusiasts when it comes to Wolfdale, I see the recomendations for the 6600 and thats just the way it is