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Tried Rainbow Six Vegas 2 ont he 9800 GX2...Unreal 3 engine..really?

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April 13, 2008 11:58:41 PM

The game graphics isn't as impressive as Unreal 3 but they do use the same engine. While the 9800 GX2 held its own I averaged up the Frames which was around 60 fps.

Heavy gun scenes where motion blur was used the most yielded in a drop to the 40s and sometimes mid 30s, but never below that.

here are some screen shots!









That being said, I really don't think the game is as well optimized as in Unreal 3.... GOD DAMN YOU UBISOFT!!!!! GET IT RIGHT!

Either way it went alot better than I thought it would, I thought it would beat Crysis in optimization problems, guess I was wrong!

Tell me what you guys think!
April 14, 2008 12:33:44 AM

Ubi-Soft is notorious for delivering games already in need of a patch. They make great games but they always release them before they have all the bugs worked out.
We used to have LAN parties at work, and Raven Shield always gave us the most grief trying to set up a game.
April 14, 2008 12:37:44 AM

yeah i remember that game. Amazingly fun though! I think the new series offer alot more than the previous, and I'm glad Ubisoft chose Unreal 3 engine, but I wish they would optimize their games better. I mean the game doesn't look as good as Unreal 3 and I'm gettin 100+ frames with the same settings in Unreal 3. I'll play with it somewhere see where it takes me. I don't know what AA unreal has, this one was set to 8 (Its really over kill and unnecessary I just did it for benchmark purposes)

I also tested Assasin's Creed and the same problems, but worse. The low in Frames when everythingn is maxed out is 26 when viewing the whole city from on top of a peak. When I turn Shadows off (it looks horrible and bright if i do, its 1 of those games where shadows actually matter) the frames go to 60.

I'll post screens when I have time. I'm also doing Command and conquer 3.

April 14, 2008 1:18:03 AM

Is it already out?

I thought the 15th was the release date......
April 14, 2008 1:20:03 AM

it is. My friend gave me a copy early. SHHHHH!!!!
April 14, 2008 1:21:01 AM

That's very strange. I use g92 8800gts, and framerate never drops below 60fps on max settings. The resolution is only 1280x1024 though. What resolution do you run it at?
April 14, 2008 1:24:37 AM

1280. how are you getting 60 constant? Maybe its my drivers, thats really weird! I dunno what to say. The game apparently runs pretty bad on other cards too:S r u sure? My friend has a 8800 Ultra and he's getting like 20 - 30 fps:S

Weird!
April 14, 2008 1:28:27 AM

L1qu1d said:
1280. how are you getting 60 constant? Maybe its my drivers, thats really weird! I dunno what to say. The game apparently runs pretty bad on other cards too:S r u sure? My friend has a 8800 Ultra and he's getting like 20 - 30 fps:S

Weird!





Okay, 20-30fps on 8800Ultra is definitely not normal. It doesn't like his/her computer. :na: 
My 8800gts is oced to 780mhz, but still shouldn't make that much difference. It probably have to do with software. I use Omega modified driver, which is supposed to be better than stock Nvidia drivers. But I haven't noticed significant gain on other games.
April 14, 2008 1:29:21 AM

I'll try clocking it at your speeds and I'll see if it makes a diff:S
April 14, 2008 1:29:52 AM

What windows you running? Vista 64
April 14, 2008 1:31:31 AM

L1qu1d said:
What windows you running? Vista 64



Yes, here too. 8gb of ram is too much to waste. :p 
April 14, 2008 1:33:19 AM

yeah but you could have Xp 64 lol. Hmmm I'll try testing agian. Did you max out 8 X AA as well and shadows?
April 14, 2008 1:34:17 AM

L1qu1d said:
yeah but you could have Xp 64 lol. Hmmm I'll try testing agian. Did you max out 8 X AA as well and shadows?



Yes, maxed everything.
April 14, 2008 1:36:21 AM

It might not like SLi just yet:S
April 14, 2008 1:37:44 AM

The original Rainbow Six Vegas ran like **** on the PC as well.
April 14, 2008 1:37:45 AM

The original Rainbow Six Vegas ran like **** on the PC as well.
April 14, 2008 1:43:00 AM

Yeah I don't think it likes sli its not going under 50, but I'm reaching like 80 FPs now and like it drops to like 55 or so. really weird. How'd you manage to get Rainbow six Vegas 2?
April 14, 2008 1:46:40 AM

I found the problem, there is no SLI profile for Vegas 2, I'll need to wait for the new drivers:(  lol
April 14, 2008 1:49:43 AM

L1qu1d said:
Yeah I don't think it likes sli its not going under 50, but I'm reaching like 80 FPs now and like it drops to like 55 or so. really weird. How'd you manage to get Rainbow six Vegas 2?



I pirated it, as in illegally. :na: 

I don't buy games without knowing in detail how they play. I download games that seem interesting via bittorrent, and if it's good, buy for library and online play. Usually only 1/3 of pirated games get brought. If I can't find a copy to pirate and try out first, it doesn't get brought.
April 14, 2008 1:50:55 AM

oh lol
April 14, 2008 5:14:03 AM

The thing with Assassins creed (Great game, love it, FANTASTIC graphics...for a console port) is that it is multi threaded and performs much better with a quad. a stock q6600 actually beats a e6850. I think it has something to do with the emulation of the game or something seeing as how its a port.
a c 107 U Graphics card
April 14, 2008 6:03:18 AM

Boooo lan games are a pain in the ass over Hamachi cause it only works with class C addressing :( 

Raven Shield was a lot of fun. Ahh glitching out of the maps....memories.
April 14, 2008 5:40:40 PM

DarthPiggie said:
The thing with Assassins creed (Great game, love it, FANTASTIC graphics...for a console port) is that it is multi threaded and performs much better with a quad. a stock q6600 actually beats a e6850. I think it has something to do with the emulation of the game or something seeing as how its a port.



It has to do with PS3 having 7 very low performing cpu cores. :p 
April 14, 2008 6:02:57 PM

Despite the poor reviews I would like to play Assassin's Creed just for the graphics.
April 14, 2008 6:16:19 PM

I got a 3870X2 on XP, and R6V2 runs somewhere between 20 and 60 fps, no AA, at 1920x1200. I think the game hates multi-GPU solutions, to be frank.
a c 107 U Graphics card
April 14, 2008 10:20:55 PM

Give it time, the game is not even released yet....but i did get multi player lan to work. my friend used an older version of Hamachi.

Game plays mostly at 60fps(vsync 1280x1024) but sometimes gets lower with effects(dust in town). Still much more playable them Raven Shield was when it came out(i was ok, but allot of people had issues with shadow bugs and stuff). There are still some bugs, but patches should fix that.
April 15, 2008 1:13:21 AM

Well I run the first Vegas maxed on my system at 1680x1050 (resolution hack) and even it bogs down and it was released in 2006!


Although they are poorly optimized I think this game does have more going on than meets the eye. There is a lot of rendered geometry, if there is a gap between two things close together you can always shoot through it. Most games would just make the whole thing one object to save resources and time modeling.
April 15, 2008 1:43:23 AM

I still think that Unreal 3 looks alot better than both Vegas' and maintains Over 60 FPS on almost any card. :) 

Awesome power!

I hope the source engine gets a new make over for ep 3 since its the series closer:) 
a c 107 U Graphics card
April 15, 2008 1:50:06 AM

that had talked about getting it multi core ready and stuff like that....

i agree with you. unreal runs quite a bit better....and i just beat Vegas 2 :)  shorter then i guessed it would be...
April 15, 2008 2:27:41 AM

Careful what you say about pirating. This is a Public Forum. The police can view it. So can the RIAA, MPAA and all the software vendors, and of course the people who run the site can see it as well. Rob Wright hates the pirating scene with a passion. Though I like him, I wouldn't put it past him to send a little nudge to someone to record your IP.

Back on topic:

I thought the Gfx for Vegas 1 sucked. Especially considering it used the unreal 3 engine. Gears of War used the same engine and looks sweet. The game is unoptimized to the extreme causing massive stuttering, but it looks hella pretty (Crysis looks better though).

Considering how this is the year 2008, Ubisoft did a crappy job with the graphics.
April 15, 2008 3:40:01 AM

who said its pirated ? I have the orignal game... I stated that before!
April 16, 2008 3:51:05 AM

I never said you did. I was referring to dagger, who blatantly stated he pirated the game.
April 16, 2008 3:56:02 AM

k I was going to say lol:p 
a b U Graphics card
April 16, 2008 4:01:22 AM

I need to try some of these games out sometime. I bought Quake 4 just for the graphics and actually enjoyed it. In reality though, I think this summer I'm going to go backwards. I'll probably play some M2TW, RTW, Tie Fighter (go DOS & Win95!), and some Oblivion (with a LOTR mod, perhaps?).
April 16, 2008 3:21:43 PM

WEIRD :| lol

I'm playing Star wars Jedi Knights: Jedi Academy:p 

After this I'm probably going to play Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 and after command and conquer 3:p 

Other than that I dunno what else to play, I sorta wanted to place system shock again.

I just need a freaky game, maybe condemned!

Anywhooo!!!!!
April 17, 2008 12:49:50 AM

Ahh, SW:JA. I still have that game kicking around somewhere. I just wish The force Unleashed would be released for the PC. I want to Kick ass with the force.
April 17, 2008 2:02:34 AM

isn't it coming to pc as well???
April 17, 2008 4:25:38 AM

As of right now, only offered on PS3, Wii, 360 and the DS. Sadly no PC right now :( . The PC has always been what LucasArts released SW titles on. Its to bad they are not releasing it on PC first. I guess they realized that there is no money in making PC games due to the supposed rampant pirating.

It's all dagger's fault :p 
April 17, 2008 4:44:06 AM

yeah, I'm hoping epic doesn't follow them 2, apparently Unreal Engine 4 is a console exclusive!
April 17, 2008 12:42:07 PM

L1qu1d said:
yeah, I'm hoping epic doesn't follow them 2, apparently Unreal Engine 4 is a console exclusive!



Lol, good for them. Some other company will take their place. :na: 

As for Force Unleashed, I'll probably buy it without pirating first. Played it in a friend's console, and quite impressed. I still like KOTOR timeframe better. Hopefully they'll make KOTOR3 afterwards. They say they're improving gameplay in Unleashed PC version based on feedback from console players, so it's not just a typical console port with only improved graphics. Hope they don't mess it up. It's good as is. :p 
April 17, 2008 1:04:00 PM

yup. Well I have a Ps3, I just hope they don't just port the games from 360 because they just suck!!!!

Thank God MGS 4 is coming out its about time the ps3 took the podium! :p 

As for pc I'm hopin pc gaming stays strong:p 
April 26, 2008 11:06:05 AM

Does anyone notice that the 9800gx2 has problems with vegas 2. I just installed the game today and when i was playing i got all these artifacts so i put my gx2 back down to stock clocks and its still like that i think its a driver issue
April 26, 2008 3:27:52 PM

I didn't have artifacts with it:S I just had max 63 Fps, with V sync off. While in a much better looking game like Unreal 3 I get over 100 fps. :S
a c 271 U Graphics card
April 26, 2008 4:47:29 PM

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April 27, 2008 3:21:07 AM

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April 27, 2008 3:23:00 AM

All those Tom Clancy games just can't play well in PCs...
They made it for the consoles
April 27, 2008 3:43:18 AM

I love the KOTOR series. Part two was my absolute favorite. i got pages of quotes from that game, it really hits the philisophical sweet spot. Whoever wrote the stuff is a genius. Kreia would get aling nicely with Nietzsche.
April 27, 2008 5:11:38 AM

L1qu1d said:
WEIRD :| lol

I'm playing Star wars Jedi Knights: Jedi Academy:p 

After this I'm probably going to play Rainbow 6 Vegas 2 and after command and conquer 3:p 

Other than that I dunno what else to play, I sorta wanted to place system shock again.

I just need a freaky game, maybe condemned!

Anywhooo!!!!!



lol im playing Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy too. As well as the original Jedi Knight Dark forces.
April 27, 2008 5:22:46 AM

good morning:) 
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