How to tell if my Vendetta2 is installed correctly?

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I just installed the vendetta2 using thermalrights bolt-thru-kit. I feel like they werent install correctly though.

Speedstep enabled on my q6600 at 2.4Ghz. On 0-2% load I get 36C, 36C, 28C, 30C on the 4 cores respectivley. This shown on 'Core Temp 0.99.3'

I was expecting 20ish deg. C.

They seem and felt bolted in. I even checked the bottom to see if they got through. Applied OCZ Freeze after cleaning with 70% Rubbing Alcohol. Tried both the grain of rice and three strips application. Right now Im using Three strips. Better than the 'grain of rice' method.

Is this normal or should it be better?


Also the 'cpu_fan' and 'sys_fan' connectors on the motherboard wont power the 120mm fan supplied by OCZ however when I connect it to a molex via the three pin connector, it works. So I tried my old 775 stock fan on both the 'cpu_fan' and 'sys_fan' ..it worked.

any Ideas? is my mobo busted or is OCZ Vendetta like this?
 

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20C is impossible unless you are in a 15C room. Air cooling can NOT go below ambient temperature, no matter what people say. Those temperatures are a bit high for a stock speed Q6600 with speed step. With my TRUE I get the same or even lower temperatures at 3.6GHz @ 1.43v. But idle means nothing, what are your load temperatures?
 

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oh no!!! ran Prime 95 Small FFTs and all of the cores @ 100% load. they are way high! 52 52 47 47.. with Tj.Max set to 100c. I dont know what I did wrong when installing the cooler. I used 70% Isopropyl Alcohol when removing the old paste. The Thermalright Bolt-Thru are at their limits. so its tightened. I tried both the 3 strips and grain of rice method. Currently using the 3 strips. Im guessing ambient temperatures are around 35-37c
 

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those are very high ambient temps. if thats true, then you have a cooler that probably beats water cooling!

sorry, does beat water cooling, by quite a bit.
btw..... 38c=100f
 

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Sorry..Ambient I meant room temperature hihi. Umm based on the weather channel and weather sites. right now or about an hour ago we were at 25C. Thats outside. Inside, since its an airconditioned room, maybe around 20C-22C. Tropical Island.

now im not on full load from 0% to max of 5% and I get readings of 36c 36c 28c 30c respectively..this with Tj. Max set to 100C
 
Your temperatures look nominal.

Also, thermal compounds get better over time and with more power on/off cycles. 200 hours perhaps. Don't expect too much from this, though. Perhaps a few degrees.

Did you possibly put on too much? If so, that is bad. Put on less than you think you should.
 
I also think your temps are normal. My Q6600 at 2.4 GHz shows 37,36,32,35 degrees in Core Temp right now. It's not in SpeedStep mode (1600MHz) but it is almost idle (just playing a movie and FireFox). I have a 22 degrees ambient temp and a Scythe Ninja cooler.

Edit: 52 degrees under load is also perfectly normal with your setup. I get about the same thing, and my cooler is just about as good as yours.
 

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Have you tried using the standart push pins on the vendetta 2?
If you have a room temperature of 22 those temps are just a bit high considering that it is not OCed..
When you run Prime 95 with small ffts you need to run at least 20 mins to check max temp..it will be a little higher..5 C max..

If your Q6600 is a G0

Q6x00: Tcase Max 71c, Stepping G0, TDP 95W, Idle 16W

-Tcase/Tjunction-
--70--/--75--75--75--75-- Hot
--65--/--70--70--70--70-- Warm
--60--/--65--65--65--65-- Safe
--25--/--30--30--30--30-- Cool

or B3

Scale 4: Quad
Q6600: Tcase Max 62c, Stepping B3, TDP 105W, Idle 24W

-Tcase/Tjunction-
--60--/--65--65--65--65-- Hot
--55--/--60--60--60--60-- Warm
--50--/--55--55--55--55-- Safe
--25--/--30--30--30--30-- Cool

in
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/221745-11-core-quad-temperature-guide
 

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OMG. Im using the Thermalright Bolt-Thru-Kit on the Vendetta2. I read on some forum that the pillars protrude slightly above the holes on the MOBO and that I need to file/shorten them a bit. Is this true? Is this necessary?

Oh man!! I have to take out my board again. I hope I dont finish my OCZ Paste before I get it to just the right temperature. When I get home, I will be on my third trial. I need something to file the pillars. Someone stop me before I do some not needed mod to the backplate.

What should I go for? Three Strips along the Heat Pipes? Single Strip Along the Middle of the IHS? Pea-size?

Re-doing stuff especially with the mobo might end up breaking them before I could get things right. Please shine some light.
 

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This is after more than 20 minutes of Prime95 Small FFTs. Looks a little bit hot at stock speeds right?

 

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wow..I reseated the HSF. Used the pea size method on the middle of the IHS. Ran the Prime95 and got slightly better temps despite running it longer. Around 40mins.

Please tell me this is what the temps should be based on my set up. :D I just need to be sure my cooler is doing its job then I could try overclocking a bit. thanks
 

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They are ok.. do you have a B3 or a G0 Q6600?
Use CPU-Z (google it) to find out, then use the table above to check the temperatures when OCed..
Personally i dont like to pass 65 on each core..
Btw i OCed my Q6600 to 3.0 by simply uping the fsb to 333 with no voltage change.. in CPU-Z reports 1.2V after Vdrop, its running stable 24/7
 

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Im using a G0 revision. I tried Overclocking it to 3.0 Ghz and Thats what Im using now. However, opening CPU-Z freezes my computer. I tried returning mem voltages to normal 800mhz. Now its on 667 to get a 1:1 ration. As you could tell, It runs 'cause im using it now. Is CPU-Z bugged?
 

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That's weird, try to download CPU-Z again..are you using the latest version?
Once i was testing the cpu with prime 95 and cpuz would not open, would only open in a idle state...anyway, never happened again.
Try HardwareMonitor (http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php)
I use the fsb @ 333 and ram @ 800 at 6:5 ratio i think (not near that pc)
 

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Im at 3.6Ghz now (9x400Mhz) but I cant get Prime95 to run long. I would increase the VCore but Im already getting passed 67C. hehe..based on the OC Guide for Q6600 G0 Im just within the 'warm' zone.

I started at 1.3875v and got the BSOD while booting into windows. From then on It got better as the voltage increased. At 1.4 I was able to get into windows but as soon as I ran the smallffts test on Prime95 --> BSOD .. Same all the way to 1.43125v

@ 1.43740v I started getting different. Prime would now run without BSOD. Now workers get errors. At this voltage Worker #2 throws the error.

@1.44375 Worker # 4

@ 1.45000v Worker # 3

@1.45625 Worker # 1 and 3

@1.46875 Still worker # 3. But as I get higher, It starts taking a while to get the 'Stopped' error.

Im now at 1.48125v I thought It would be okay but just before a minute , Worker #3 again stopped.

Im not sure if I should continue going up to 1.5 or I should change something else. So far 1.48125 has the best results. Might get better. But temps are getting hotter as well. Temp Guide says '70' is warm and '65' is safe so Im just barely safe.

 

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Did you try other voltages yet? Try FSB Term or NB voltage up one or two notches, and is your RAM overclocked? I doubt it with FSB400 though.
 

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hmm..nope ..not overclocked. 800mhz . FSB Control is at +.2 so is the Mem Voltage control +.2 .. Do you know what value I should change on a GA-P35 board to increase NB voltage?