How come I google the specific model and there is no Info about this model.
...and it's for socket LGA 775.
Does anybody have a clue on the subject? I find the processor ideal, taking in account the price for 6 cores, for video encoding and 3d rendering (3ds Max).
What's not wrong with that ad? Six core will have a completely different socket, and won't be available until, at earliest, the end of the year for the server sector.
Agreed but its impossible with the IMC and more than 4 cores. But hey after this it should be easier on socket changes for Intel as the IMC will always be on board. It will just need a new one for different memory types i.e. DDR4+
If Intel's homepage doesn't have an entry for H9300 there isn't one. It's either a scam or a prank. Note how there's no product code in the specsheet and how all the changed details are red.
Also note how the HEX font is diffrent from the Core 2 font.
What's not wrong with that ad? Six core will have a completely different socket, and won't be available until, at earliest, the end of the year for the server sector.
Google Dunnington.
Yes probably. Now that i see the date posted it must be an April's fool. Very lame of an eshop to do such a thing.
Funny thing is that may have been a scam but the CPU itself is not. There was a post somewhere here with a roadmap showing it. Wish I could find it. And this was back in Feb/Mar time.
i think u would need a socket for that cpu so i would think its a scam. y would anyone need 6cores when quad cores r barely being used i think companies should work hard on drivers with current hardware.
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Agreed but its impossible with the IMC and more than 4 cores. But hey after this it should be easier on socket changes for Intel as the IMC will always be on board. It will just need a new one for different memory types i.e. DDR4+
I'll be surprised if it's easier on socket changes with Intel. Even when they keep the same socket, they change voltages. I used to get mad about that back in the Prescott days, but not anymore.
With AMD, they keep the same socket for backwards compatibility and let motherboard manufacturer's nix the support. When they need a new voltage, they leave it up to the motherboard manufacturer's goodwill again.
In my SF tech fantasy, we'd have a universal socket that didn't rely upon pins on either the motherboard, or the CPU, but upon materials that would autoshape to the CPU as current is applied. Call it the universal socket 7000 or something!
I came up with that notion when I read about research on how futuristic metals would morph as current passes through.
In my SF tech fantasy, we'd have a universal socket that didn't rely upon pins on either the motherboard, or the CPU, but upon materials that would autoshape to the CPU as current is applied. Call it the universal socket 7000 or something!
I'll be surprised if it's easier on socket changes with Intel. Even when they keep the same socket, they change voltages. I used to get mad about that back in the Prescott days, but not anymore.
With AMD, they keep the same socket for backwards compatibility and let motherboard manufacturer's nix the support. When they need a new voltage, they leave it up to the motherboard manufacturer's goodwill again.
In my SF tech fantasy, we'd have a universal socket that didn't rely upon pins on either the motherboard, or the CPU, but upon materials that would autoshape to the CPU as current is applied. Call it the universal socket 7000 or something!
I came up with that notion when I read about research on how futuristic metals would morph as current passes through.
I understand why you are worried from past experiences. But you forget that the major voltage change was the only time you had to get a new mobo for a new chipset, not socket. So far for LGA 775 this only effected the 915 and lower chipsets with the move to Core2 as they were not created to handle them. So in real terms there has only been 2 changes. It is also up to mobo makers when it comes to Intel to create a mobo that has the voltage regulators and the new BIOS with microcode to support newer CPUs. I.E. there are Asus mobos with the P945 chipset that support Wolfdales/Yorkfeilds.
AMD does do that but their main problem is promising it will work, like with whats happening with Phenom. Yes its the mobo makers fault really as they slack on updating the BIOS with the new CPUs microcodes or having decent phase regulators on the mobo. But still AMD puts themselves in the crossfire by saying it will have seamless upgrade path when that may not be 100% true.
Your idea is nice but the problem right now is the different architectures require more or less connections. Intel has LGA775 for all their current CPUs and AMD has PGA (I believe) 940 for all its current CPUs and their future ones.
Morphing metal would be scary though. Thats just one step closer to the T2000 from Terminator. Mix that kind of metal with the right circutry and a good jolt of electricity and BAM. Skynet comes to life and we are screwed.
Message edited by jimmysmitty on 05-06-2008 at 03:48:36 PM
Don't worry, we can handle Skynet. After all, I've also read about artificial muscle that contracts with current. Add direct brain wave control for pilots and we'd have Battlemechs to face off against Skynet!
The Singularity is coming. It's described as the Rapture for nerds. Sort of has me worried, but then again, I'm an evangelical Jewish Christian Baptist Universalist. We worry about the kind of things secular futurists flat out ignore.
What we can hope for is that our machines will screw up just as much as we do. Instead of accidentally creating the Terminator, when we're trying to build Robby, we'll probably end up with Marvin. Who can be scared of Marvin?
As for AMD promises, I think you're too hard on AMD and too soft on Intel. Motherboard support varies by manufacturer, regardless of socket or chipset. Intel's made dodgier promises in the past and I bet you gave them a pass.
Criticize AMD for the Phenom, not for motherboard compatibility with the Phenom. That's my point of view.
Message edited by yipsl on 05-09-2008 at 06:14:34 AM
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yipsl you make a good point but as I said Intel has never once promised support for every chip in a certain chipset. AMD has always made the upgradeability claim and in order to do that you need to push the mobo makers. AMD, or AMD fanboys really, use that as a reason to buy AMD.
I am not being soft on Intel or hard on AMD. I am just stating a fact that AMD pushes their ability to upgrade easily but it falls on them when mobo makers fail to help make that even semi true.
I think AMD should claim that their CPUs are able to work in older sockets but they should have a warning as well that states its up to the mobo maker to provide the BIOS update for it. That would help them get out of the frying pan.
I think Intel does plan on the same path as AMD with one socket until there is truly a need for change. Thats the thing though. We all know AMD will not be able to stick to the same socket forever and will need a change some day. Its just the way it is.
When they need a new voltage, they leave it up to the motherboard manufacturer's goodwill again.
