BFG 8800GTS G92 questions

[defender0802]

Hey whatsup guys,

I have a few questions.

1.) i have this card at stock speeds right now
-Core:675
-Memory:972
-Shader:1677
I ran 3DMARK 06 and score 10,060 (stock) at least and at most 11,090 (with a slight overclock 725/ 975/1802) so is that normal?
All the review i have read of this card say it reaches 12,000 to 13,000 easily and even at stock it is said to at least reach 11,500.

2.)The fan speed i now have set to 60% and it obviously drops the temp by a lot but what can having the fan speed faster than this do to a card in the long run?

3.)I get "lower" fps in many benchmarks than in the reviews i have read for this card. For example i just ran HL2 lost coast and averaged 152 fps yet every review i have seen has had this card above an average of 170 so wtf?!

PC SPECS:

Intel core 2 duo e6400 OCed to 2.7
8800GTS G92 512mb
2GB DDR2 800 G. Skill 4-4-4-12
Asus 650i
OCZ 700Watt Gamerstreak SLI PSU
Everything with stock Coolers

 

[ryanthesav]

Your processor is holding u back.

 

[robertito]

Personally I think you should worry less about synthetic benchmarks and what you should be getting and focus more on whats important.

Firstly 3DMark scores mean nothing, everyones system is diferent and will therefore get different results. Two e6400 will never OC the exact same way so even a simmilar system can get different results.

Secondly, Can you actually see the difference between 152 and 170 fps? Once you hit 60 fps it really won't do you much good anyway. As long as the real world results don't negatively effect your gaming experience you should focus on the game, not just your framerates.

 

[rodney_ws]

I'm gonna disagree with Robertito on this one... the more FPS the better because that's an indication that future titles that do stress the GPU will be ok running on it... and it's not a matter of FPS... it's a matter of what your lowest FPS is during a games most graphically busy moments. But he's totally right about the other thing... quit stressing over the benchmarks.

I'm pretty sure 3DMark totally rewards people who have quad core CPUs... but it's not like a game is going to give a rip about it (yet)

Why the REALLY weak overclock on your CPU?

 

[defender0802]

I'm gonna disagree with Robertito on this one... the more FPS the better because that's an indication that future titles that do stress the GPU will be ok running on it... and it's not a matter of FPS... it's a matter of what your lowest FPS is during a games most graphically busy moments. But he's totally right about the other thing... quit stressing over the benchmarks.

I'm pretty sure 3DMark totally rewards people who have quad core CPUs... but it's not like a game is going to give a rip about it (yet)

Why the REALLY weak overclock on your CPU?

I overclocked it to 2.9 but it idled at 57c and maxed at 72c so i figured that was way too hot.Right now at 2.7 it idles at around 48c-51c and heats up to about 62c at most on stock heatsink.

 

[espguitarguy232]

Like the others have said, it is your CPU. I have a E2160 overclocked to 3GHz on a BFG 650i ultra mobo and get a score of 11610, with stock GPU speeds on the same BFG 8800 gts 512. If you overclock the CPU you will see similar scores to mine most likely. Like rodney_ws said, a quad core is good for 3dmark06, so thats where the 13000 score in reviews comes from.

 

[espguitarguy232]

I overclocked it to 2.9 but it idled at 57c and maxed at 72c so i figured that was way too hot.Right now at 2.7 it idles at around 48c-51c and heats up to about 62c at most.

do you have stock cooling????

 

[defender0802]

i was editing the post on my processor when you replied.Yes everything i have is stock .

 

[lcaley]

Definitely your CPU. Before I OC'd my system, my stock score was between 8k and 8.5k, now with my OC, I get between 12 and 12.5k, and we have pretty much the same system with different clocks.

The only thing 3dMark is REALLY good for is seeing changes in your own system. If you run 3dMark, and change a driver or other setting, it is a good judge of how much your changed affected your change. The only time you should compare one system to another system's 3dMarks is to get a general idea. For example, if you were getting your 11k marks and I was to get like 1.5k, it would let me know that there was something wrong with my system. But a difference in 2-3k between systems shouldn't be a problem.

Does this make sense?

 

[espguitarguy232]

I would upgrade your cpu cooling. What is the ambient temp in the room you have the computer in? I would suggest the arctic cooling freezer 7 pro only because I know it will fit fine on a 650i board, there could be better ones out there. That might allow you some more overhead for overclocking.

 

[espguitarguy232]

Definitely your CPU. Before I OC'd my system, my stock score was between 8k and 8.5k, now with my OC, I get between 12 and 12.5k, and we have pretty much the same system with different clocks.

The only thing 3dMark is REALLY good for is seeing changes in your own system. If you run 3dMark, and change a driver or other setting, it is a good judge of how much your changed affected your change. The only time you should compare one system to another system's 3dMarks is to get a general idea. For example, if you were getting your 11k marks and I was to get like 1.5k, it would let me know that there was something wrong with my system. But a difference in 2-3k between systems shouldn't be a problem.

Does this make sense?

Haha about 6 months after my build I found out i had the ram in the wrong slots (mine go 0213 instead of what I thought to be 0123) and it added 600 3dmarks. Live and learn lol...

 

[defender0802]

I just overclocked my cpu to 2.8 and scored 11,714 in 3dmark06 yet under load the cpu reached 67c and i think that is too hot....what do you guys think?

 

[bildo123]

I would say thats a little warm. What I used on my E2180 @ 3Ghz was a CoolerMaster TX-2. It was $8 after a rebate that actually came in so it was far from breaking the bank and would allow you to probably go farther than 3Ghz. The hottest I have seen it get at ambient of 20C was 53C under FFT load.

 

[sdnerf]

Your 3dmarks are in the ball bark I get 12226-11554 no OC
sys spec e6850 w/slight OC to get 12226, gts 8800 512 (92) , 8gigs PC800 , Vista 64 ult, Raptor HD, Tuniq tower

 

[sdnerf]

Your CPU is on fire, I use a tuniq tower, and have 4 case fans, I never see more than 45C with a full load for more than an hour, I have a coolermaster Stacker, its a big box, that has fan locations everywhere including the top!. I have noticed that the case temp actually exceeds that of the CPU, this is due to the GPU $ HDs which generates much more heat than the CPU, I have a thermalright Hr-03 gt coming to cool the card, and a fan pulling air over the HDs and one in the rear to expell it. Getting the hot air out of the box is just as important as aftermarket coolers. To be honest a water cooling solution maybe cheaper when you add up all the fans and heat sinks required to keep all your components cool.

 

[defender0802]

how can i change my cpu fan speed? its N/A in Ntune and its not available in my bios.I downloaded speedfan but it says for Speed01:100% Speed02:100% Speed03:0%

 

[crusoe74]

I get a 12000 with a Q6600 @ stock with the rest of the specs the same. The chances are that in most games you'll get better framerates than me because your CPU is clocked slightly higher than mine.
As everyone else has said don't worry about 3D Mark benches and just enjoy your games.