As we told you some time ago, Intel has put in what can only be called an overclocking lock in the upcoming LGA1160 processors which are currently going under the codenames of Lynnfield and Havendale.
As Intel seems to want to push the much more expensive Bloomfield platform to overclockers, the company implemented a lock that prevents these new processors from being overclocked by adding two PLL clock generators, one inside the CPU itself and one in the PCH.
This might not sound like it's a big problem in itself, but what Intel has done is that these two will clock generators will reference eachother and this means that just changing the bus speed won't have any effect if you're trying to overclock the CPU as it will dissregard the information from the PCH if it's not a correct value.
If this turns out to be true then prepare your pockets. I expect at least a 50% performance increase in order to spend more than U$1000 on the mobo + CPU. But, anyway, perhaps the uber-enthusiasts don't mind spending U$1000+ *only* on a Core 2 Extreme. Overpriced chipset + Overpriced processor + Overpriced memory = Overkill.
Let's pray that they decide to put the integrated memory controller into the "mainstream version" (which is unlikely).
"Now if the 4870x2 was actually notably faster than the 280 for about the same price, then I might even take a chance on it. However, that won't be the case."-robx46
**** intel, i'm sorry but whats going on with them, Working with Microsoft, Bitching at Nvidia, now Screwing us over?
They know they can get away with this, lock their processors and charge 1000+ dollars for the "unlocked" processors.. because they have no competition right now.
**** them man, and what the sad part is, although this is frustrating most of us will buy their products anyways.
If everyone in all the tech forums decided to boycot Intel, Intel would never notice. The vast majority of computer users just want something good enough at a price they are willing to pay.
To what jsc said, the opposite is true. Intel can't be getting tired of people attempting an RMA after CPU fries...because not that many people do it. Seems like a majority here, but it's nothing when you add in the rest of the market. There's got to be another reason. My thought is price. Like someone above said...they can charge $1000 for an unlocked CPU without any competition.
To what jsc said, the opposite is true. Intel can't be getting tired of people attempting an RMA after CPU fries...because not that many people do it. Seems like a majority here, but it's nothing when you add in the rest of the market. There's got to be another reason. My thought is price. Like someone above said...they can charge $1000 for an unlocked CPU without any competition.
That prob is true, but then maybe amd can catch up (relative to performance at a lower price of course, not absolute performance)
"Now if the 4870x2 was actually notably faster than the 280 for about the same price, then I might even take a chance on it. However, that won't be the case."-robx46
If AMD pulls out a CPU, with GPU technology that increases a games performance incredibly, or even a faster GPU, and sells it for 300 bucks.. Intel will be forced to pull its prices down.
We need AMD, thats a Given. Without AMD, there is no competition, and We lose. We miss out, We suffer.
Hey people? Why are you taking a fudzilla article to be the truth? you have to be kidding right? Fudzilla goes along the same lines as the Inquirer. I think you guys need to take that article with a grain of salt before you take as gospel.
If this story did in fact turn out to be true, I think I'd end up going back to AMD. (I'm on my first Intel CPU ever). I'd like the "ability" to OC if I wanted to. Not to mention I can't afford the highest of high end systems anyhow.
I agree with sacre, we need competition to promote research and keep prices down.
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Fudzilla is not a good source of information why do people still post crap from there. Usually there is a hint of truth in their articles but for the most part thats all that place is....a haven for spreading FUD.
Im sure Intel will lock down their budget and mainstream CPUs eventually. On the other hand, im sure they are not going to leave the overclockers out to dry. Maybe now they will give people a reason to buy a more expensive CPUs, perhaps similar to black edition processors from AMD, not just a single $1,000 CPU. Right now you can go out and pick up a 2.4Ghz Q6600 and overclock it to what is im sure better performance then we will see from their first next gen CPU offering.
Its too early in the year to be worrying about this stuff anyway, seriously. This stuff isn't even coming out until late this year, probably early next year anyway.
OH NOES this would completely remove the ability for anyone to use the old tried and tired argument of "But at least Intel chips overclock better" when comparing chip benchmarks that are about equal.
Oh... how TRAGIC.
or not.
Actually to be serious: I have been expecting something like this for several years. This can actually be a GOOD THING if somebody considers system stability to be more important than the ability to overclock. (Which describes MOST users.)
If this turns out to be true: we can expect to see a lot of threads about this topic.
lol. Well, about Fudzilla: they have been pretty accurate regarding the news about Nehalem and GPUs. They talked about Tylersburg and Larrabee very soon, just as The INQUIRER (say what you will, but it turned out to be "true" ). The INQ had an article about "many Intel mini-cores, called Larrabee" back in 2006.
Oh, and BTW, can you find many Q9450s and Q9550s around?! O.O And I'm not talking about just 10 of them at some freaking website (actually, I have never seen a Q9550 ANYWHERE). The 45nm Quads *ARE* delayed. Q1 had just a paper-launch for those nice investors.
It's just speculation, anyway. But that's the way the world goes on.
Could it be that maybe cpus arent that great anymore? Until multithreading becomes reality, cpus seem to be slowing down. Now if this is true, Intel shows just how powerful they are. Look at USB3, another potential for Intel to show its strength. And yes, lets not forget who declared the gpu dead, and then went into investing billions of dollars into graphics., like that flew over everyones head? Intel, the sleeping giant, dont wake em, cause this time they may be going after YOU
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hah, i dont think Intel is bluffing here. I mean, as a manufacturer, how would you feel if people were buying your 80$ e2100s and OCing them to match your 300$ e6850s, not very good. Again, this is an attempt to matintain the heriarchy and ensure profits. there was no reason to get a E6700 if you were an OCer, so just get the E6600 and OC like hell, which is what most people did. so , Intel will try and stop this.
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