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Prototype   04-12-2008 at 06:21:03 PM

I am going to build a desktop to play all games in high settings and no lag. Can anyone help?

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dagger   04-12-2008 at 06:27:17 PM
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Prototype wrote :

I am going to build a desktop to play all games in high settings and no lag. Can anyone help?

 


What's the budget?

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Prototype   04-12-2008 at 08:24:21 PM
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I dont know yet I wanna see first how much it will cost and then i will know my budget

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cjv4   04-12-2008 at 09:08:31 PM
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you have to pick a budget, and then people can tell you the best parts to get in that price range.

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jaguarskx   04-12-2008 at 09:24:17 PM
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Can you afford a 8800GTX or two 8800GTS (g92) in SLI on top of everything else?

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Prototype   04-12-2008 at 09:35:58 PM
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Well i dont wanna build a desktop that is over 2k im sure of that

Yes I was planning on getting 8800GTS SLI or 9600GT SLI

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Prototype   04-13-2008 at 12:35:39 AM
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Case: Mid or Full Tower? What case material should I pick?
Hard Drive: Should I buy Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 Hard Drive?
Keyboard: What keyboard should I buy?
Motherboard: Intel or NVIDIA?
Mouse: What mouse should I buy?
Operating System: XP or Vista? 32-bit or 64-bit?
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 / Q6700 / Q9300 / Q9450 (after price drop)
Graphics Card: NVIDIA (SLI) or ATI Radeon (Crossfire)?

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Prototype   04-13-2008 at 08:14:06 PM
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I did some research and this is what im stuck with:
Motherboard: NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI or 780i SLI
Memory: 2GB (2x1GB) or 4GB (2x2GB)
GPUs: 9600GT SLI or 8800GTS SLI or 8800GT SLI
Processor: Q6700 or Q9450

I want to score very good in benchmarking. I will be overclocking everything and pushing it to the limit.


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Maroc   04-13-2008 at 08:21:00 PM
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Go with the Q9450 instead of the Q6700. It's newer technology as it's based on the 45nm process. I think 4GB (2x2) of ram would be more suitable for the Quad and it also gives you the option to upgrade to 8GB in the future. As for the GPU, I think you'll be better off with the 8800GT in SLI as theres not much difference in price between the 9600GT and the 8800GT.

 

Edit: I just read that you'll be overclocking, So in that case, go with the 8800 GTS (G92) SLI. It has better cooling the both other options leaving more headroom for overclocking.

 

Maroc.


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Prototype   04-13-2008 at 08:50:38 PM
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I will be buying the components after the price drop of the quad processor so wouldnt the Q6700 be better?

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dagger   04-13-2008 at 08:54:28 PM
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Prototype wrote :

I will be buying the components after the price drop of the quad processor so wouldnt the Q6700 be better?

 


Q6700 is basically the same as an overclocked Q6600. You might as well get a cheaper Q6600, if not Q9450.

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Prototype   04-13-2008 at 09:01:29 PM
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Well i think im going with the Q6700 so i can overclock it over 4GHz if i get water cooling and the Q9450 has low multiplier.

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dagger   04-13-2008 at 09:06:28 PM
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Prototype wrote :

Well i think im going with the Q6700 so i can overclock it over 4GHz if i get water cooling and the Q9450 has low multiplier.

 


I've pushed Q6600 to 4ghz before, on air, 70/70/68/68 temp. :p

 

Q9450 has low multiplier, but it's fine if you use good motherboard chipset so fsb won't be the bottleneck.

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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Prototype   04-13-2008 at 09:36:18 PM
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Yeah but then I need to get a MoBo that has DDR3 so i will be wasting more money and i need to save as much money as i can

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dagger   04-13-2008 at 09:44:23 PM
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Prototype wrote :

Yeah but then I need to get a MoBo that has DDR3 so i will be wasting more money and i need to save as much money as i can

 


There are lots of x38 chipset motherboards that use DDR2. I use one of them, and it cost $207 at the time of purchase, which is high, but not unaffordable. :p

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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Avenger_K   04-13-2008 at 10:19:38 PM
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Prototype wrote :

I am going to build a desktop to play all games in high settings and no lag. Can anyone help?

 

I take it you won't be playing Crysis under Vista? :lol: :kaola:

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dagger   04-13-2008 at 10:25:39 PM
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Avenger_K wrote :

I take it you won't be playing Crysis under Vista? :lol: :kaola:

 


Actually, Crysis on high resolution and settings isn't as unattainable as it used to be. I ran it at high(but not highest) settings at 40-50fps.

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Avenger_K   04-13-2008 at 11:14:12 PM
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dagger wrote :

Actually, Crysis on high resolution and settings isn't as unattainable as it used to be. I ran it at high(but not highest) settings at 40-50fps.



True, but you have, shall we say a bit higher end of a system than most :sol: . I was referring to very high (DX10) settings under Vista, which is still impossible for almost every setup (excluding Tri-SLI 8800 GTXs or quad SLI 9800GX2s).

But yes, Crysis is not quite as much of a beast as it appeared to be when it first came out. :pt1cable:

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Prototype   04-14-2008 at 12:24:57 AM
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Should I get:
Newegg.com - XFX MB-N780-ISH9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
or
Newegg.com - MSI P7N SLI Platinum LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

I still don't know if i should go with 8800GT SLI, 9600GT SLI, 8800GTS SLI
(lowest price after mail and rebate)
8800GT $160
9600GT $130
8800GTS $200

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cjv4   04-14-2008 at 12:59:51 AM
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the MSI 750i will not be true SLi.

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Maroc   04-14-2008 at 02:08:24 AM
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The 750i FTW will.

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Prototype   04-14-2008 at 02:24:56 AM
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Why? Isnt the 750i the same as 780i but without the 3-SLI and less tweaking for overclocking.

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Maroc   04-14-2008 at 02:26:35 AM
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Nope, unless you're talking about the 750i FTW...

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dagger   04-14-2008 at 02:46:07 AM
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Prototype wrote :

Why? Isnt the 750i the same as 780i but without the 3-SLI and less tweaking for overclocking.

 


780i's "tweaking for overclocking" is not just bios features, but actual higher preformance chipset that runs stable at higher fsb. It's not just window dressing, the hardware is better. It also have much less memory compatibility problems that eariler Nvidia chipsets suffer.

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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Prototype   04-14-2008 at 02:57:44 AM
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So I should buy the XFX 780i?

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It also have much less memory compatibility problems that eariler Nvidia chipsets suffer.



what?

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dagger   04-14-2008 at 03:10:29 AM
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Prototype wrote :

So I should buy the XFX 780i?

 


 

what?

 



Just google it, earlier Nvidia chipsets, especially 650i and 680i, are known as "memory killers." :na:

 

And yes, 780i is the best choice if you want sli. 790i is better, but they charge sky price for it right now.

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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Prototype   04-14-2008 at 03:34:53 AM
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is the 780i a memory killer cz i dont see it?

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dagger   04-14-2008 at 03:40:13 AM
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Prototype wrote :

is the 780i a memory killer cz i dont see it?

 


It's not, that's the point. :p

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cjv4   04-14-2008 at 04:56:10 AM
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if you don't want to pay for the 780i, you can get the eVGA 750i SLi FTW board. It has true SLi performance (x16 for both cards).

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