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Computer spec:
 
-NZXT Apollo gaming tower case.
-AMD Phenom X4 9600 Quad-Core w/ HTT.
-Kingston (1024MB X 4) PC6400 DDR2-800.
-Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe nForce 570-SLI MCP Chipset.
-ThermalTake MaxOrb, NZXT 600W PSU, NZXT LCD Meter.
-19" HP w1907, Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit.
-XFX 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT 670 MHz.
-Sound Blaster Audigy SE, Logitech Z-2300 2.1.
-Hitachi SATA 500GB HDD 7200 RPM.  
 
Before:
 
No pic, but only scored 5700 ish.
 
After: with Phenom TLB patch disabled, nVidia control panel set to full performance and power setting set to performance.
 
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/sirsaechao/image002.jpg
 
Really low for my computer.  Some told me it is because of my MB is only AM2 and not AM2+ and some said my power supply.  Help please.


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Your CPU score is really low.  As to why, I am not sure.  What resolution are you running 3DMark at?  My x2 4000+ with a slight OC gets about 1900 in the CPU score.  That is at 1280x1024.
 
Run CPU-z and let us know what it says for your CPU speed.  I wonder if the CPU is throttled down in power saving  mode.


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something is seriously wrong unless you are using all custom settings (aa/af).  i have the free version and therefore can only use defaults.  i have a s939 with opty 180 @ 2.7 and an 8800gt and i get 8900.  With the amd 64 4000+ and a 7950gt they replaced i got about 4500.  i am also using xp sp2 if that helps.


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I will run it at home and post it.  I run the 3DMark at default at 1280 X 1024.

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MayDay94 wrote :

something is seriously wrong unless you are using all custom settings (aa/af).  i have the free version and therefore can only use defaults.  i have a s939 with opty 180 @ 2.7 and an 8800gt and i get 8900.  With the amd 64 4000+ and a 7950gt they replaced i got about 4500.  i am also using xp sp2 if that helps.


What is aa/af?  How do I change these settings?  Sorry.  I'm a Nub when it comes that this sort of stuff.

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Your PSU is fine even though its not the best brand.
 
Your AM2 mobo doest have enough Hypertransport (FSB) to run the phenom full blast.
 
AM2 and AM2+ are based on the same size socket but AM2+ processors such as your Phenom have a higher Hypertransport.
 
Make sure you can see all 4 cores in windows task manager. Is your windows a fresh install or a implant from old system? If its old reinstall it, if not then you need a mobo with 2600MHz hyper transport.

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roadrunner197069 wrote :

Your PSU is fine even though its not the best brand.
 
Your AM2 mobo doest have enough Hypertransport (FSB) to run the phenom full blast.
 
AM2 and AM2+ are based on the same size socket but AM2+ processors such as your Phenom have a higher Hypertransport.
 
Make sure you can see all 4 cores in windows task manager. Is your windows a fresh install or a implant from old system? If its old reinstall it, if not then you need a mobo with 2600MHz hyper transport.


 
The AM2 mobo shouldn't kill his performance that bad.  Unless there is a specific issue with that board and Phenoms, which I am not aware of.  He should most definately be getting a better CPU score than me.
 
But, Roadrunner is right about the Windows install.  If you didn't reinstall windows after changing out your CPU, that could be a problem.  


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roadrunner197069 wrote :

Your PSU is fine even though its not the best brand.
 
Your AM2 mobo doest have enough Hypertransport (FSB) to run the phenom full blast.
 
AM2 and AM2+ are based on the same size socket but AM2+ processors such as your Phenom have a higher Hypertransport.
 
Make sure you can see all 4 cores in windows task manager. Is your windows a fresh install or a implant from old system? If its old reinstall it, if not then you need a mobo with 2600MHz hyper transport.


My computer was build on 3/28/08 with the OEM Vista installed.  I have a Window's side bar and it registers all 4 cores.  How can I check to really make sure?

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The AM2 mobo shouldn't kill his performance that bad.  Unless there is a specific issue with that board and Phenoms, which I am not aware of.  He should most definately be getting a better CPU score than me.
 
But, Roadrunner is right about the Windows install.  If you didn't reinstall windows after changing out your CPU, that could be a problem.


 
 
 
1000MHz vs 2600MHz is a big difference, especially when your chocking it with four cores.
 
I'm sure if sidebar registers then its working. Otherwise hit CTRL-ALT-DELETE then taskmanager/performance. You should see four cores there.
 
What does CPU-Z say your CPU is running at?

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roadrunner197069 wrote :

1000MHz vs 2600MHz is a big difference, especially when your chocking it with four cores.
1000MHz vs 2600MHz is a big difference, especially when your chocking it with four cores.  
 
I'm sure if sidebar registers then its working. Otherwise hit CTRL-ALT-DELETE then taskmanager/performance. You should see four cores there.  
 
What does CPU-Z say your CPU is running at?


So...dump my current MB for a new AM2+ one?  Pricy and a pain for someone like me.  I will have to check CPU-Z when I get home.


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I thought it was 2000mhz (2x1000) vs 2600Mhz.  That isn't that big of a difference, considering the 2000 mhz was never even close to beng tapped by the dual cores.
 
The original HT on the 754 boards was 1600 (2x800).


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basketcase wrote :

I thought it was 2000mhz (2x1000) vs 2600Mhz.  That isn't that big of a difference, considering the 2000 mhz was never even close to beng tapped by the dual cores.
 
The original HT on the 754 boards was 1600 (2x800).


 
 
Its 2x1000vs 2x2600 which is a big difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
If you want better 3dmark06 score get a required board! If your happy with your system performance dont! With that board there is nothing you can do to increase your performance.
 
It would be like putting a 1333MHz FSB CPU in a 800 MHz motherboard on a intel machine. Stupid and pointless that is why no one does it.


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Lesson learned.  Don't order from iBUYPOWER w/o researching first.  They had the mobo as an upgrade for the Phenom even though it isn't AM2+.  is it easier to install a new mobo or processor.  I don't really have the use for Quad so I can prolly step down to Dual.  Just need easiest and less painful solution.  And yes...I can probably just run my computer as is for now.

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The HT on AM2+ is 3600mhz total.  AM2 is 2000mhz total.
 
This should not be affecting his score so badly that he is getting less than my x2 4000+ in the CPU score.  
 
OP, run CPU-z and let us know what speed the CPU is running at.


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Leave it as is and read some forums until you feel comfortable building your own system, then do what you got to do.
 
Its real simple to do either one. To change the cpu you might have to pull mobo out any ways depending on the type of heat sink.
 
Make sure to ground yourself by touching the outside of the case before you reach inside.

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basketcase wrote :

The HT on AM2+ is 3600mhz total.  AM2 is 2000mhz total.
 
This should not be affecting his score so badly that he is getting less than my x2 4000+ in the CPU score.  
 
OP, run CPU-z and let us know what speed the CPU is running at.


 
 
For someone who "Builds PCs" you dont have a clue!
 
Here is some examples class 101!
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813138107
FSB 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s)  
 
 
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813135083
FSB 2600MHz Hyper Transport (5200 MT/s)  
 
BTW: your computers are ugly and overpriced! :kaola:  
 
Phenom runs 3600 Hypertransports So if you put it on a board with ony 2000 then your nuts to think it wont affect performance, not to mention it is four cores chocking down its throat instead of 2.
 


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RoadRunner - Can you suggest me a new mobo that is AM2+?  Thanks.

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Also...I was told to d/l the newest driver from nVidia version 174.74 but when I enter 32-Bit...it only gives me version 169.25 for my 8800GT???

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For the driver its probably under BETA tab. I will look at mobos and tell you what one I would get. One sec.

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Phenom
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103244
 
X2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103213
 
 
See the specs on the Phenom CPU linked.  I think that is the same one that the OP has.
 
You are right about the mobo having different speeds.  Some of the Phenoms actually have a 4000mhz ht speed.  I think the 9850 does.
 
We are just talking about different things.  But, the point remains that even though it is on a lesser bus, it won't kill the performance down to what it is.  It will affect it some, but it would be more like a couple hundred to maybe a 1000 points in the overall 3DMark06 score.  Something else is going on in the case.  It is either clocked down in power saving mode, or the bios needs to be updated, or just an incompatability in between the CPU and mobo.  


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