jay2tall
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Regardless, every CPU creates a "bottleneck" of some sort. It is just that older CPU's tend to hinder the GPU more than a better performing one. As you climb into the higher end CPUs there really is much less of a bottleneck created and no real benefit to having the top dog CPU to make your games look good.
A 8800GT will still run much better than a 7300GT but you will be held back by your CPU. I'd go for the 8800GT over the 9600Gt unless you are constrained by cost. It's worth the extra money for the 8800 though.
Save your $$ for a better mobo and CPU after that. What mobo do you have? some of the 775 socket boards will run a Core2 800MHz CPU with a BIOS update. It would be work checking out as those CPU's are Cheapo.
A 8800GT will still run much better than a 7300GT but you will be held back by your CPU. I'd go for the 8800GT over the 9600Gt unless you are constrained by cost. It's worth the extra money for the 8800 though.
Save your $$ for a better mobo and CPU after that. What mobo do you have? some of the 775 socket boards will run a Core2 800MHz CPU with a BIOS update. It would be work checking out as those CPU's are Cheapo.
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Is your 7300GT a PCI-E x16 or AGP? If it's AGP, you probably don't have a PCI-E x16 slot and will need a new motherboard.
What kind of PSU do you have? The 8800GT consumes more than the 7300GT.
If you go for the 8800GT, I suggest picking one with a dual-slot cooler. Or even better an 8800GTS 512MB.
What kind of PSU do you have? The 8800GT consumes more than the 7300GT.
If you go for the 8800GT, I suggest picking one with a dual-slot cooler. Or even better an 8800GTS 512MB.
I dont worry about my 1 Gb DDR2 ram. DDR2 ram is very cheap so i can buy another 1 GB so that's not a problem. Sure i need new PSU my is 380W or smth like that... mother board is with chipest i945G so it has PCI express slot about 8800GTS 512 forget it 
cuz it's expensive where i live. So if i want to change the CPU sure im gonna need to change my mother board too so that's a lot of money :/
cuz it's expensive where i live. So if i want to change the CPU sure im gonna need to change my mother board too so that's a lot of money :/
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OK, so I guess it looks like this:
- step 1: 8800GT+PSU
- step 2 (later): MB+CPU+another 1GB of RAM. Look at GA-P35-DS3L.
- step 3 get a faster HDD like the Seagate 7200.11 320GB.
Even if the 8800GT is bottlenecked by the old CPU and lack of RAM, I think it will still make a big difference.
- step 1: 8800GT+PSU
- step 2 (later): MB+CPU+another 1GB of RAM. Look at GA-P35-DS3L.
- step 3 get a faster HDD like the Seagate 7200.11 320GB.
Even if the 8800GT is bottlenecked by the old CPU and lack of RAM, I think it will still make a big difference.
jay2tall
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That's a solid motherboard. I wouldn't get "another 1GB" or ran. You pay as well just get 2 or 4GB of DDR2 800 or higher memory.
I wouldn't go by what Everest is telling you. its probably a board using the 945G chipset, but you may have to crack your PC open and look to see what brand and model it is. All the 945G chipsets I see support a core2.
I wouldn't go by what Everest is telling you. its probably a board using the 945G chipset, but you may have to crack your PC open and look to see what brand and model it is. All the 945G chipsets I see support a core2.
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There seem to be 5 models that are all called 945G7MA + something or other, and FoxConn doesn't claim Core 2 compatibility for any of them. This doesn't mean it wouldn't work, but I wouldn't count on it.
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/searcher.aspx?key=945G7MA
Oh well, you can just upgrade the PSU and GPU for now and you'll still see a big improvement in games. Later when you have saved $300 or whatever you can take care of the rest, for example with a GA-P35-DS3L and a Q6600.
Edit: jay2tall answered first, I hadn't seen the reply above this one. So, it's sure that the board won't work with Core 2?
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/searcher.aspx?key=945G7MA
Oh well, you can just upgrade the PSU and GPU for now and you'll still see a big improvement in games. Later when you have saved $300 or whatever you can take care of the rest, for example with a GA-P35-DS3L and a Q6600.
Edit: jay2tall answered first, I hadn't seen the reply above this one. So, it's sure that the board won't work with Core 2?
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Take his advice and heres the product.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098
2x1GB 800Mhz $47 Free shipping. NICE
Edit, just found this. If you want to go ALL out this is awesome.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211188
4GB(2x2) 800Mhz $76 Free shipping. NICE
aevm
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Yeah, the E8400 is better if this is a gaming machine, true. It's $20 less too
MikeMK, I suggest you find some of the threads comparing E8400 and Q6600 and see which fits you better. The E8400 is better for some people , while the Q6600 is better for others. For example the E8400 is better if you play games, don't play FSX or Lost Planet, and don't do video encoding.
I found some even nicer deals for RAM, but you have to trust mail rebates.
Crucial Ballistix, $25 or $31 after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148076
MikeMK, I suggest you find some of the threads comparing E8400 and Q6600 and see which fits you better. The E8400 is better for some people , while the Q6600 is better for others. For example the E8400 is better if you play games, don't play FSX or Lost Planet, and don't do video encoding.
I found some even nicer deals for RAM, but you have to trust mail rebates.
Crucial Ballistix, $25 or $31 after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148076
jay2tall
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aevm :
Yeah, the E8400 is better if this is a gaming machine, true. It's $20 less too
MikeMK, I suggest you find some of the threads comparing E8400 and Q6600 and see which fits you better. The E8400 is better for some people , while the Q6600 is better for others. For example the E8400 is better if you play games, don't play FSX or Lost Planet, and don't do video encoding.
I found some even nicer deals for RAM, but you have to trust mail rebates.
Crucial Ballistix, $25 or $31 after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148076
MikeMK, I suggest you find some of the threads comparing E8400 and Q6600 and see which fits you better. The E8400 is better for some people , while the Q6600 is better for others. For example the E8400 is better if you play games, don't play FSX or Lost Planet, and don't do video encoding.
I found some even nicer deals for RAM, but you have to trust mail rebates.
Crucial Ballistix, $25 or $31 after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148076
I know supreme Commander benefits from a quad core as well. One of the guys at out monthly lan had an e6600 and went and replaced it with a q6600 and when we asked him "WELL! does it run faster?" he just grumbled and said "not really but SupCom flied now". We all just laughed cause we all told him he doesn't need it and he should replace his 19"LCD with a 22 or 24" wide screen. Dumbie!
Yeah and you want to know the REALLY sad thing. I bought that set of Crucial Balistix PC6400 a year and a half ago and it was $300 with a $100 mail in rebate, so it was a great deal. About 6 months ago I bought another set for $90 with $30 rebate, so it was $60. NOW it's $25 after rebate? You know it sorta makes me want to cry.
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It's sad for the shareholders, yeah. As a consumer I love the trend. I honestly think it will end soon, unfortunately. AFAIK the low prices on DDR2 now are happening because RAM manufacturers expected Vista to be fabulous and to generate lots of demand.
For me it's sad cuz i bought my computer last year, it's not even 1 year old then "ddv" (dunno how to write in english) droped from 19% to 5% for all computer components and whole prices fell down, if i had those money now i would've buy computer with E6750 on it 3Gb ram and GeForce 8600GT that configuration is amazing performance - price
that configuration is amazing performance - price
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