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April 24, 2008 7:43:05 PM

i saw that just before i drop by this forum.pretty impressive and final the true ultra high end card 512bit!!!!but i wonder how hot would it be though even in 55nm.
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April 24, 2008 8:42:41 PM

I am also curious what the RV770 will do... I was just reading up on that as well, sounds pretty good.
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2008 8:48:30 PM

If the 4xxx series comes out at say a 10+% in performance over the current GTX, which is what Ive been thinking, then this iteration of the 9xxx series, being shrunk down should clock up to maybe 10% higher as well, making for good competition
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2008 9:03:55 PM

Then it will all come down to the price/performance ratio.
I hope ati does the same thing with there 4000 series and price them reasonably.
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2008 9:08:40 PM

As per the TG article, theyre supposed to be priced 350 USD for the 4870s
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2008 9:14:35 PM

oh man u serious i got the 9800gtx on april 1st. my step up ends on july 1st can i still upgrade to this?
April 24, 2008 9:14:55 PM

9900 vs 4870. This should be interesting.
April 24, 2008 9:35:38 PM

I was waiting a bit before buying the 9800GTX untill I knew when the next gen is out so I could upgrade with the EVGA step up.
I think I'll wait till the middle of next month to be sure and get a Antec 1200 and a velociraptor at the same time. Sorry Invisik... feel bad for u
I wonder how fast this new G200 will be and I really hope for 1Gb RAM/GPU.
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2008 9:43:27 PM

well im not completely hopeless i called evga and told them wat if my 90 step up period was over could i step up they said no but they can make an exception if its a few days over 90days. so lets see if they will, or ill just buy another 9800gtx to cheer me up lol.
April 24, 2008 10:10:17 PM

invisik said:
well im not completely hopeless i called evga and told them wat if my 90 step up period was over could i step up they said no but they can make an exception if its a few days over 90days. so lets see if they will, or ill just buy another 9800gtx to cheer me up lol.

Don't get another 9800gtx. Sell the old one on ebay before 9900 and 4xxx's launch date. :p 
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2008 10:34:13 PM

Since neither of these cards are out yet, Im wondering this. The 4870 is to be released first. Followed by the 9900GTX. But Im thinking the 9900GTX isnt the G200, not by going with the rumors etc on release, size etc. Then therell be a 4870X2, which will incorporate the GDDR5 and their new MCM, combined to make a killer card, then will come the G200, which if the rumors are true, itll be a monster as well. One thing about the X2, itll be XF, but itll also have or should have full use of all the memory, using the MCM, plus a few other features, thus making it more scalible working in XF, and when not availible, a better solution independantly
April 24, 2008 11:39:02 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
Since neither of these cards are out yet, Im wondering this. The 4870 is to be released first. Followed by the 9900GTX. But Im thinking the 9900GTX isnt the G200, not by going with the rumors etc on release, size etc. Then therell be a 4870X2, which will incorporate the GDDR5 and their new MCM, combined to make a killer card, then will come the G200, which if the rumors are true, itll be a monster as well. One thing about the X2, itll be XF, but itll also have or should have full use of all the memory, using the MCM, plus a few other features, thus making it more scalible working in XF, and when not availible, a better solution independantly



Lol, if 9900's not g200, then Nvidia is shooting itself in the foot. :na: 
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2008 11:52:39 PM

Thanks for the link!
a b U Graphics card
April 24, 2008 11:56:39 PM

Like they did with the 8800GT? or the 8800GTS? or the 9800GTX?
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2008 12:04:54 AM

dagger said:
Don't get another 9800gtx. Sell the old one on ebay before 9900 and 4xxx's launch date. :p 


Is it going to be that much better. can i sli 9800gtx and 9900?
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2008 12:05:36 AM

Ive created several threads regarding nVidias craziness releasing all these cards. 5% here, and 5% there, no DX10.1, its just crazy, but since they never did actually make the G80 a true DX10 card, then they cant change it unless they actually create a whole new arch, which everyone knows that the 8 series and the 9 series all come from the G80 main arch. If you own a GTX of any kind, Id still be wary about looking forward to getting these cards, as I dont think its the G200 weve all been awaiting.
April 25, 2008 12:06:18 AM

invisik said:
Is it going to be that much better. can i sli 9800gtx and 9900?



If they recycle the old g92, yeah. :na: 
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2008 12:18:35 AM

sry i got a off topic qustion look at the site.
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ4OSw3...
if u noticed they ran a 9800gtx in sli and they only used 422peak
using EVGA 790i Ultra SLI motherboard and an Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650, and 4GB of Corsair CM3X1024-1800CD Dominator DDR3, WD 74gb raptor.


would my 500wat antec earthwatt psu work with a q6600 and 2 9800gtx?
April 25, 2008 12:27:43 AM

invisik said:
sry i got a off topic qustion look at the site.
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ4OSw3...
if u noticed they ran a 9800gtx in sli and they only used 422peak
using EVGA 790i Ultra SLI motherboard and an Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650, and 4GB of Corsair CM3X1024-1800CD Dominator DDR3, WD 74gb raptor.


would my 500wat antec earthwatt psu work with a q6600 and 2 9800gtx?



Lol, 422 peak is just that, peak. You need at least 20+% headroom. Also, 12v rail ampage matters. Don't skimp on the psu. Get at least 600watts.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2008 12:33:36 AM

dagger said:
Lol, 422 peak is just that, peak. You need at least 20+% headroom. Also, 12v rail ampage matters. Don't skimp on the psu. Get at least 600watts.


so ur saying it wont work this is my system spec.
intel core 2 quad q6600
ASUS P5N-D
4gig of OCZ
Nvidia 9800gtx
Lite-On Blue-ray
500gb x1
80gb x1
Window vista Ultimate 32-bit
GIGABYTE 3D Galaxy II Liquid Cooling
22" lcd acer monitor
Logitech X-540 5.1 Speaker System
i heard some ppl telling me it will work and some wont.
i see it has enough watt but not enough amp? how short do i fall with the antec earthwatt 500. sry for noob ?'s.
i really dont have money so im trying to save up and not buy another psu.
April 25, 2008 12:39:09 AM

invisik said:
so ur saying it wont work this is my system spec.
intel core 2 quad q6600
ASUS P5N-D
4gig of OCZ
Nvidia 9800gtx
Lite-On Blue-ray
500gb x1
80gb x1
Window vista Ultimate 32-bit
GIGABYTE 3D Galaxy II Liquid Cooling
22" lcd acer monitor
Logitech X-540 5.1 Speaker System
i heard some ppl telling me it will work and some wont.
i see it has enough watt but not enough amp? how short do i fall with the antec earthwatt 500. sry for noob ?'s.
i really dont have money so im trying to save up and not buy another psu.

Oh it'll work, but you may get unstability, especially after a while and the psu get older.
April 25, 2008 1:16:45 AM

dagger said:
Lol, 422 peak is just that, peak. You need at least 20+% headroom. Also, 12v rail ampage matters. Don't skimp on the psu. Get at least 600watts.
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I agree with Dagger. If you go SLI with 2 9800 GTXs with all the rest of that hardware, you should be thinking on a minimum of 600wts. Add in any overclocking and you might start thinking toward a 700wt PSU. If money is a problem, start saving and get a larger PSU before you get a second video card.

Oh, you might get away with the 500wt Earthwatts for awhile if going SLI, but you might find some inconvenient crashes while gaming. For now, without SLI, your 500wt PSU should be fine.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2008 1:23:31 AM

sailer said:
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I agree with Dagger. If you go SLI with 2 9800 GTXs with all the rest of that hardware, you should be thinking on a minimum of 600wts. Add in any overclocking and you might start thinking toward a 700wt PSU. If money is a problem, start saving and get a larger PSU before you get a second video card.

Oh, you might get away with the 500wt Earthwatts for awhile if going SLI, but you might find some inconvenient crashes while gaming. For now, without SLI, your 500wt PSU should be fine.


thanks i was just wondering can u look at this
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1348/4/gigabyte_des_a...
the mobo i ordered has the epu tecnology would that help save some power and make the antec 500watt more stable?
April 25, 2008 1:28:57 AM

invisik said:
thanks i was just wondering can u look at this
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1348/4/gigabyte_des_a...
the mobo i ordered has the epu tecnology would that help save some power and make the antec 500watt more stable?



Don't count on it. Idle energy saving is no good to you. Max energy consumption is what matters. You don't want the pc to crash every time it runs something heavy.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2008 1:38:11 AM

thanks for all ur help ill just save up for a new psu or just use 2 of my 500watt psu, with one of those dual psu connectors.
April 25, 2008 1:46:07 AM

That's right. Idling, you might well get by with a 200wt PSU. Its when you're in a complex game, everything loaded to max, the hard disk starts to spin up and ...everything might stop because the power draw was more than the 500wt PSU could deliver. That's the type of thing that I hate.

Yes, I've read articles that showoff low wattage PSUs from time to time. Virtually all have stated that they proved that it could be done under ideal circumstances, but few of us have ideal circumstances, or machines that match their test rigs. I find a bigger thing from such articles as showing why the super large PSUs aren't needed. Very few people need a PSU larger than a good 750wt PSU. They do exist, but they are rare indeed.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2008 2:16:08 AM

if the component does not get enough power will it damage my pc?
April 25, 2008 2:18:01 AM

invisik said:
if the component does not get enough power will it damage my pc?



It shouldn't. Don't worry about it. Although if it crash all the time, your OS and other software may be corrupted, in the worst case.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2008 2:26:03 AM

thank u for clearing all that up.
=]
April 25, 2008 2:33:23 AM

On topic, It looks like the 9900s might pull off the 2900 blunder again. 512 memory bit is quite alot for a single card. Power and heat output will be massive. Rumors are that its just 2 G94 cores stuck together q6600 style. Sure the 9900s will perform better than the HD4800s but will they be as effecient. Also I thought the 4870s was suposed to be below 299$. Man I cant wait, this has been LONG overdue IMO.
April 25, 2008 2:35:13 AM

DarthPiggie said:
On topic, It looks like the 9900s might pull off the 2900 blunder again. 512 memory bit is quite alot for a single card. Power and heat output will be massive. Rumors are that its just 2 G94 cores stuck together q6600 style. Sure the 9900s will perform better than the HD4800s but will they be as effecient. Also I thought the 4870s was suposed to be below 299$. Man I cant wait, this has been LONG overdue IMO.



Wait, 2 g94? Isn't g94 basically half a g92? How's that supposed to work? :na: 
April 25, 2008 2:51:08 AM

youd be surprised what Nvidia is pulling off recently, scams i tell you.
April 25, 2008 3:31:23 AM

dagger said:
Lol, while we're on the topic, this is the benchmark to see. :na: 
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/03/geforce-9800gtx-revi...


You're just trying to make me feel good about buying a 3870, aren't you. Just add one more and I have a killer combo.

Besides, would Nvidia do something like that? I mean, offer the same basic card, change the decal and clock rate, and sell it as something all new for more money? :whistle:  :lol: 
April 25, 2008 3:47:43 AM

wow that review was the most blunt and real review I've seen in a long time. How bout that, an OC 8800GTS with the same speeds as a 9800GTX, age-old 2007 drivers, performs better than a stock 9800GTX with brand-new driver support. Nvidia got me there. Its like the GF FX all over again.
April 25, 2008 4:39:12 AM

Maybe we will have 1, 1.5 GB of RAM on this bad boy. RAM is cheap, and 22, 24, and god forbid, 30" monitors would benefit (I guess).
April 25, 2008 6:54:29 AM

yea but how many gamers have such huge monitors. Most of us are between 19-24in.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2008 12:13:57 PM

To me, the 9900GTX is the node switch of the 9800GTX, which was the node switch of the 8800GTX. All a little faster, cooler etc. Yea, they carved up the original 8800 GTX, they simply didnt need all that with their smaller nodes, and higher clocks etc. More of the same, Im afraid. Would love to be surprised with this card, but I doubt I will
April 25, 2008 12:29:03 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
Since neither of these cards are out yet, Im wondering this. The 4870 is to be released first. Followed by the 9900GTX. But Im thinking the 9900GTX isnt the G200, not by going with the rumors etc on release, size etc. Then therell be a 4870X2, which will incorporate the GDDR5 and their new MCM, combined to make a killer card, then will come the G200, which if the rumors are true, itll be a monster as well. One thing about the X2, itll be XF, but itll also have or should have full use of all the memory, using the MCM, plus a few other features, thus making it more scalible working in XF, and when not availible, a better solution independantly


You might be right, it seems seems strange from a marketing point of view that Nvidia would launch their brand new GPU without a new name. I've two theories about this :

1/ Nvidia want noobs to continue buying the 9800 and below after the g200 is released.
So the Noob will think hey I'll get this much cheaper 9800, the 9900 doesn't sound much better.

2/ Nvidia will release another G90 spin off called 9900 and release the G200 as a whole new series later.
This seems the logical thing to do if I were Nvidia since they can probably still keep pace with the HD4800.
As I said before: More peeps think about gaming during the northeren hemisphere winter...
April 25, 2008 12:34:00 PM

tjoepie said:
You might be right, it seems seems strange from a marketing point of view that Nvidia would launch their brand new GPU without a new name. I've two theories about this :

1/ Nvidia want noobs to continue buying the 9800 and below after the g200 is released.
So the Noob will think hey I'll get this much cheaper 9800, the 9900 doesn't sound much better.

2/ Nvidia will release another G90 spin off called 9900 and release the G200 as a whole new series later.
This seems the logical thing to do if I were Nvidia since they can probably still keep pace with the HD4800.
As I said before: More peeps think about gaming during the northeren hemisphere winter...

If it's another overclocked g92 edition, I doubt it'll keep pace with 4870, now that they've more or less solved the bottlenecking issue.
April 25, 2008 12:42:23 PM

Yeah this news sounds great to me, hopefully. I hope that the 9900 GTX will be a huge improvement and maybe this card might max out Crysis after all. A true 512 bit memory interface sounds good enough to me. No more crappy 256 bit interface and G92 refreshes nonsense hopefully.
April 25, 2008 8:45:43 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
To me, the 9900GTX is the node switch of the 9800GTX, which was the node switch of the 8800GTX. All a little faster, cooler etc. Yea, they carved up the original 8800 GTX, they simply didnt need all that with their smaller nodes, and higher clocks etc. More of the same, Im afraid. Would love to be surprised with this card, but I doubt I will

Goddam it all, come on GPU suppliers, get your Sh!t together. This is quite annoying. Wheres the goddame innovation. But still, a 8800GT satisfies mostly all games, so until games come out that cripple the 8800GTX down to 20 something frames per second at 1024x768(sure Crysis, but thats just 1 game), i doubt we will see a significantly faster product. If there isnt a demand for it, then we wont see the supply.
a b U Graphics card
April 25, 2008 9:01:53 PM

Its getting so that until ATI/AMD makes a run for the top, nVidias just sitting back. Ive heard two rumors, one, this is the G200, but that doesnt make sense to me, because if the 4870 rolls out now or soon anyways, then nVidia rolls out this as the G200, what becomes of the 4870X2? Thatll leave nVidia with nothing to come back with. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. They could come back with a monster G200X2, but I dont think that will fit in the power envelope
April 25, 2008 9:17:14 PM

I loathe Nvidia multi-GPU solutions, even they do. But still, rumors are rumors.Intel's reentry might be the thing we needed as they would make a nice gadfly to the two graphic giants.
April 28, 2008 5:45:34 PM

VR-zone claims to know more :

VR-Zone got to know that the GeForce 9900 GTX card is 10.5" long, full height and dual slot and the cooler is TM71 from CoolerMaster. Dubbed GT200 or D10U, we heard that this architecture might be dual chip with TDP up to 240W.

http://sg.vr-zone.com/articles/GeForce_9900_GTX_is_10.5...

This is as long as the current GTX if I'm not mistaking.
A dual chip would be nice, but if it hase1 Gb RAM, doesn't that mean it's like the gx2 with 512mb for each gpu?
This might explain the slide we once saw of Nvidia placing the 9900gtx as replacement of the 9800gx2.
I'm sure more and more specs will get released as the HD4870 gets closer to its release next month.

a b U Graphics card
April 28, 2008 8:03:08 PM

I think originally nVidia planned on releasing a newer downsized somewhat more powerful 9800GTX, but with the early coming of the 4870 theyve decided on giving us the real goods, or the G200. Im hoping this is true. Dont expect this card to be cheap. as the chip on it is massive. Itll be hot n powerful, but probly be a monsteer . They wont be able to do a GTX2 til a die shrink, so Im thinking the 4870X2 will be the fastest card like the 3870X2 for a short time until a cooler solution arrives from nVidia. This is all specualtion, but it seems this is where theyre heading
April 28, 2008 11:17:30 PM

Yea i might skimp on the 9900GTX until they release a product like the 8800GT, but i think its a bit naive to expect that twice.
April 28, 2008 11:42:32 PM

A 240W TDP does sound like a hot and bigger GPU ...
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