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Hi,
I have recently bought a Sharp LC32D62U lcd tv.I want to use it as a tv and pc monitor.
I have a VisionTek x1950 pro card.And he can't connect to my new LCD and send 1080P.
I tryed to work it around but looks like a knowen issue with ati.
so i guss i need a new card.
I have :E6750 ,4GB ocz gold rev 2.0,Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L.

I want to play games at mid range but high res on my new 32" tv.
i want to connect the tv to the pc with sound throu the video card.

Which one of those you suggest :

1.
[B]PNY VCG88512GXPB GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - 150$AR[/B]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133205

2.
[B]PALiT NE/9600T+0152 GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - 120$AR[/B]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261002&CMP=AFC-C8Junction

3.
[B]PALiT NE/960TSX0202 GeForce 9600GT SONIC 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - 170$AR[/B]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261013&nm_mc=OTC-RSS&cm_mmc=OTC-RSS-_-Desktop+Graphics-_--_-N82E16814261013&CMP=AFC-C8Junction

4.
[B]DIAMOND Viper 3870PE4512SB Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail - 150$AR[/B]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103050

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if you want sound thru the video card then you have to go with the 3870, as the Nvidia doesn't do sound thru the video card yet (I could be wrong on this though)

though at 1080p I'd suggest going CF/SLI as I think that's something like 1920×1080

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Reply to jonyb222

#3 if you want Audio through HDMI. Otherwise you will need to use a seperate connection. I don't believe the 8800 series has this only the 9xxx series like 9600gt and 9800GTX.

Message edited by jay2tall on 04-25-2008 at 09:41:40 PM

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Reply to jay2tall

Hi,
The 9600GT has a HDMI port but, I don't know if it transfer the audio as well????

idon't need to play all games at 1920X1080.

Reply to karelson

none of your links work.

Do you have a price range?

I have had a good experience with the 3870, however you may want to wait until this summer when the newer ati cards come out. The 9600 GT offers roughly the same performance as the 3870. Can't really go wrong with any of those choices. Also, does your motherboard support SLI or Crossfire?

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Go for option #4. Audio through the HDMI port will be nice. Plus, the price after rebate is pretty nice too.

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njalterio wrote :

none of your links work.

Do you have a price range?

I have had a good experience with the 3870, however you may want to wait until this summer when the newer ati cards come out. The 9600 GT offers roughly the same performance as the 3870. Can't really go wrong with any of those choices. Also, does your motherboard support SLI or Crossfire?

He said GA-P35-DS3L - no SLI, no Crossfire.

The 3870 sounds good here.

Reply to aevm

The 9600GT w/ HDMi is the only one that will offer sound through the HDMI port.

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Reply to jay2tall

hey,
Thank you all for the replay.but i am still abit confused.

By the way let say i want to add 50$ more to my boudget, what here sounds good?

1.EVGA 640-P2-N824-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130327

2.EVGA 640-P2-N829-AR GeForce 8800GTS SSC 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card 199$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130317

3.XFX PVT88GYDF4 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150261

Reply to karelson

The third one is the fastest. It's still called 8800GTS but it's actually a different and newer type of card with more stream processors.

If you already have Call of Duty get this card:

MSI NX8800GTS 512M OC GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB, $195 after rebate, includes Witcher game
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127325

Message edited by aevm on 04-25-2008 at 09:36:32 PM

Reply to aevm

I have the XFX 8800GTS 512 Alpha Dog. It's a FANTASTIC CARD!. Don't bother with the 640MB cards they are the old G80 GPU and are old tech. You don't want them, take them off your list.

If you want HDMI w/ audio you NEED a 9XXX Nvidia card. The 8800's do not support this.

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Reply to jay2tall

Hi,
i am very favoable of the :
2.
[B]PALiT NE/9600T+0152 GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - 120$AR[/B]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261002&CMP=AFC-C8Junction

have good reviewes and mony for performance.

What do you think?

Reply to karelson

9600GT is weak sauce

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Reply to bpogdowz

bpogdowz wrote :

9600GT is weak sauce

I wouldn't call it weak. But it's certainly a lot weaker than 8800gt or g92 8800gts for not much less. Not best bang for the buck.

Message edited by dagger on 04-26-2008 at 12:22:23 AM

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Quote :

Don't bother with the 640MB cards they are the old G80 GPU and are old tech.

That's what I have. It works great, but I'm not ready to upgrade yet; its only about a year old or so. Plus, its a pain to drain your waterloop to replace a card, but always worth the reward. Bonus time is just around the corner, but nothing really tickles my fancy...

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Reply to rubix_1011

Zotac makes a 8800GT with audio/video via hdmi.

You need to make sure your TV works well from a PC. my 42" 1080p works on pc hdmi but text is fuzzy with and without cleartype. It looks better surfing on the VGA port 13xx/768.

Reply to roadrunner197069

ok, last question what do you think about the
PNY VCG88512GXPB GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - **150**$ARhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133205

the 8800GT is better then 8800GTS as far as i read. and the price is great.

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karelson wrote :

the 8800GT is better then 8800GTS as far as i read. and the price is great.

Broken link.

8800gt is faster than old g80 8800gt (320mb/640mb) and slower than g92 8800gt (512mb/1gb). Ideally, get a 8800gt that comes with aftermarket cooler. Single slot stock cooler version has heat problems.

8800gt with good dual slot cooler.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127329

Or trade up to a g92 8800gts:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814134037

Do not get g80 8800gts. It's not good value.

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Reply to dagger

dagger wrote :

Broken link.

8800gt is faster than old g80 8800gt (320mb/640mb) and slower than g92 8800gt (512mb/1gb). Ideally, get a 8800gt that comes with aftermarket cooler. Single slot stock cooler version has heat problems.

8800gt with good dual slot cooler.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127329

Or trade up to a g92 8800gts:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814134037

Do not get g80 8800gts. It's not good value.

you meant GTS im sure.

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Reply to DarthPiggie

DarthPiggie wrote :

you meant GTS im sure.

Yeah, that's it.

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Reply to dagger

why the 8800gt i posted is not good? it is alsow d92.

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karelson wrote :

why the 8800gt i posted is not good? it is alsow d92.

8800gt's stock single slot cooler runs hot, and not ideal for overclocking. Also, the 8800gt version of g92 comes with 112 stream processors, compared to 8800gts g92's 128. The 8800gts g92 core is also binned higher, allowing higher overclocking ceiling, aside from effects of heat.

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Reply to dagger

must agree with dagger, especially considering GTS are dirt cheap right now,

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Reply to DarthPiggie

Hey dagger, did you get that name from FFIX???just curious, whats a girl doing with techie stuff?

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DarthPiggie wrote :

Hey dagger, did you get that name from FFIX???just curious, whats a girl doing with techie stuff?

Don't know what's FFIX. And I'm a 1337 geekette. Show some respect.

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Reply to dagger

lmao FFIX is Final Fantasy 9. Wow, so you just happened to call yourself dagger, quite a coincidence

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Reply to DarthPiggie

hey,
i am not going to over clock it.
aside of overclocking is the pny good for 150$?

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Reply to karelson

uhh, what is pinr? then maybe, just maybe i could answer that.

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Reply to DarthPiggie

karelson wrote :

hey,
i am not going to over clock it.
aside of overclocking is the pny good for 150$?

Then the performance gap just got smaller.

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Reply to dagger

i am very confused right now....sorry.

if thinking about price vs performance.i am not planing to overclock.
out of these card which one you [B]suggest and why[/B].(for my use as i listed above)?

1.
PNY VCG88512GXPB GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail -[B] 150$[/B]ARhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133205

2.
DIAMOND Viper 3870PE4512SB Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail - [B]150[/B]$AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814103050

3.
MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card -[B] 175$AR + 7$s hipping[/B]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127329

4.
GIGABYTE GV-NX88T512HPV1 GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail -[B] 160$AR +7$ shipping[/B]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125088

p.s
dagge what did you mean by your last post"Then the performance gap just got smaller.
"??

Reply to karelson

MSI 8800GT FTMFW. MSI with quad-Pipe cooling all-day. Get that one, I got it and I can tell you it is very powerful. Its about as fast as a 88GTX cuz it comes OC from the box so you dont have to worry about overclocking. Plus the Qua-pipe keeps it really cool. Mine idles at 42-46 C. Loads no higher than 65

Message edited by DarthPiggie on 04-26-2008 at 02:35:32 AM

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Reply to DarthPiggie

G92 8800gts perform better than 8800gt at stock, but not as far ahead
as when both are overclocked to their respective limits. See this
benchmark comparing 8800gts with core at 675mhz (650mhz is stock) and
9800gtx at stock:

http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/03 [...] review/12/

If overclocked, the best bang for buck is g92 8800gts: $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814134037

If not overclocked, the best bang for buck is 8800gt: $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814133205

Although the g92 8800gts is close for best value, even without overclocking.

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Reply to dagger

Isn't that just pathethic. A 8800GTS beats a 9800GTX clock for clock. That is sad Nvidia, really sad.

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Reply to DarthPiggie

Stop confusing and Go for 8800GTS 512MB OC

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121218

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127323

Reply to kad

Quote :

If overclocked, the best bang for buck is g92 8800gts: $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814134037

Is the ecs card any good.Is the company any good.
there is only 1 review on that card.??

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karelson wrote :

Quote :

If overclocked, the best bang for buck is g92 8800gts: $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814134037

Is the ecs card any good.Is the company any good.
there is only 1 review on that card.??

It's fine. There's no hardware difference whatsoever. You're paying for a label and longer warranty from brand name.

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Reply to dagger

If you want it for just descent gaming I would recommend the Palit's 9600gt Sonic edition.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/ [...] 00gtsonic/
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2253
Damn good 9600gt.

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romulus47plus1 wrote :

If you want it for just descent gaming I would recommend the Palit's 9600gt Sonic edition.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/ [...] 00gtsonic/
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2253
Damn good 9600gt.

Unless it dropped from the $219.99 price tag cited in that article, it's not worth the price. A 9600gt with factory overclocking and an aftermarket cooler is still just a 9600gt.

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Reply to dagger

Quote :

Unless it dropped from the $219.99 price tag cited in that article, it's not worth the price. A 9600gt with factory overclocking and an aftermarket cooler is still just a 9600gt.

SO if i need to choose from those 5 what shuld that be?

1.PALiT NE/960TSX0202 GeForce 9600GT SONIC 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 170$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814261013

2.PALiT NE/9600T+0152 GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - 120$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814261002

3.PALiT NE/960TSX0252 GeForce 9600GT SONIC 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 154$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814261001

4.ECS N8800GTS-512MX GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 170$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814134037

5.MSI NX8800GTS 512M OC GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express - 194$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127325

or should i wait till new card from ATI or NVIDIA will come?

Reply to karelson

I would sa the ECS 8800GTS

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Reply to DarthPiggie

DarthPiggie wrote :

I would sa the ECS 8800GTS

Same here, best bang for the buck. The 8800gts stock cooler is as good as dual slot aftermarket coolers.

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Reply to dagger

Did you make a choice mate?

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