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| Sllipindk wrote : Hmm, I'm not sure some people says that the sound cards do make some difference... |
Well, it's certainly not worth $135 of difference. Think what another $135 means somewhere else: Q9450? X38 motherboard for high oc? Better graphics card? 
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The problem with Q9300 and Q9450 is they use 7.5x and 8x multipliers, while Q6600 use 9x. At 1600mhz fsb, Q9300=3ghz, Q9450=3.2ghz, Q6600=3.6ghz. Overclocking on p35 board (runs at 1333mhz fsb natively), you'll run into fsb wall, and the 45nm chips wouldn't be able to go as far as they otherwise could. X38 motherboard upgrade will give the 45nm cpus their full potential, but the cpu/motherboard upgrad combo costs more than $135 you just saved by getting rid of the soundcard.
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| Sllipindk wrote : I have $1900 to spend, which motherboard should I buy instead then to go with the Q9300... |
A X38/48 motherboard. You need the high fsb if you're going to oc Q9300, which runs on only 7.5x multiplier. If you have the money, you shoudl ideally get Q9450 instead of Q9300. Q9450 use 12mb(2x6) L2 cache, compared to 8mb(2x4) for Q6600 and 6mb(2x4) for Q9300. Cache size begins to matter more the heavier the application get. Also, Q9300 outperform Q6600 by 7% at stock, but it's it runs at 2.5ghz stock, instead of Q6600's 2.4ghz. At the same clock, Q9300's lead becomes slim to none. The low 7.5x multiplier makes oc harder too. Q9450 performs significantly better than both Q6600 and Q9300 at the same clock, and the lead increases as you oc all three chips higher.
Ah, someone beat me to it. 
1800mhz fsb (450x4) on p35 can tricky. Do not count on it. You can count on 1600mhz fsb overclocked (from 1333mhz stock) on p35. X38/48 runs at 1600mhz fsb natively, and reliably oc to 2000+mhz.
1600mhz = 3.0ghz for Q9300, 3.2ghz for Q9450, 3.6ghz for Q6600.
Message edited by dagger on 04-18-2008 at 01:23:15 AM
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| iluvgillgill wrote : i know the TRUE is very capable.how much did you get it for?as i wanted one for my own rig.but the stupid case fan gets in the way and its not removable.any 120mm fan cooler wouldnt fit in my case.at the end i settle for a Zalman 9700 LED overclock at 3.4Ghz load at 71C. |
Not sure how "TRUE" would perform, but nice name. I use this "FAIL" cooler. Brought it right after reading the review.
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 79-15.html
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| Sllipindk wrote : I think I will settle with the Q6600, I looked at the benchmarks and price/performance scaling, the Q6600 is fast enough and is considerably cheap compared to the others...and please tell me if anyone have bought parts from Buy.com and Mwave.com...because if it is a good place to buy i will buy some cheaper parts from them.. |
How much cheaper than Newegg are they? If it's only a little it might not be worth the possible headache.
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