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April 18, 2008 1:28:16 AM

Hi
New to this forum, and new (first-time) builder.
So before asking for help (just a few questions), I'll just throw the main components that will be part of my future PC (still temporary choices to maintain a decent budget)
I'm not considering the auxiliaries (monitors, mouse, speakers, etc.) but just the PC tower.

CPU: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21228&vpn=ADX6000CZBOX&manufacture=AMD
AMD Athlon 6000+ 3.0 Ghz

Motherboard: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18545&vpn=M2N32%2DSLI%20DELUXE%20WIF&manufacture=ASUS
ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe

Memory
4x 1G Kingston PC6400 800mhz DDR ECC DIMMs

Video http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27247&vpn=BFGE88512GTSE&manufacture=BFG%20Technologies
NVidia BFG 8800 GTS 512 mb

Hard Drive http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25667&vpn=ST3250410AS&manufacture=Seagate
Seagate 7200.10 250G SATAII 16mb cache

Power Supply http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19648&vpn=SST%2DST65ZF&manufacture=Silverstone%20Technology
Silverstone Zeus 650W ATX12V Active PFC

Case http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21123&vpn=NINE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC
Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay
. 1 top 200mm fan (included)
. 1 rear120mm fan (included)
. 2 front 120mm fan (included)
. 1 side 120mm fan (optional & WILL buy: Coolermaster 1220rpm http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14259&vpn=TLF%2DS12%2DEB&manufacture=COOLERMASTER
. 1 middle 120mm fan (optional & WON'T buy)

Sound card, DVD, etc. not cared about for now


[]Now you have the specs, I'll ask you pros a few questions that really bothers me

Qts #1. Since I already have quite a few fans on the case, do I REALLY need a heatsink and fans for the CPU or Graphic card? I have NO intention of overclocking anything. If yes, what are the criteria you recommend to look out for a worth-the-money cooling element?

Qts #2. Does OEM products are better, to avoid, or no difference with same retail product.

Qts #3. Did I forget/miss choose any elements or did I pick an unless element in the specs ?

Qts #4. Does the system looks like balanced on first sight?

Qts #5. This may sound a little (or very) dumb, but for the case's front inputs (USB, IEEE, microphone), they're plugged into the motherboard and should work fine right? I say this because my last two computers, none of their front buses worked... :fou: 

Finally, thanks you for your patience. Any recommendations, further advices, warnings, comments, etc. are greatly appreciated. Don't forget I just want a great smooth system with a fairly decent budget (~1000CAD)



April 18, 2008 2:11:37 AM

#1: The retail AMD CPU comes with a heat sink, so as long as you don't go OEM on the CPU, you'll be fine. (But you DO need to attach the heat sink that comes with the CPU, or else it will burn and die, to put it frankly). The graphics card also won't need an additional heat sink/fan.

#2: In general, OEM is the exact same product without any warranty or pretty packaging. Generally, HDDs are good products to go OEM on.

#3: You won't need a sound card, but you might want to pick a wireless NIC card if you are using wireless in your home. That is speaking from experience; I forgot it on mine :pt1cable: .

#4: It looks balanced enough, but if it is possible, try to go for a 2x2GB kit of RAM. It will decrease any chance of a problem.

#5: Yes, it will be a little bit tight on some of the cables, but the USB, audio, and Firewire port will fit real nicely.

If you can find it, I would go for a Power PC & Cooling 600w PSU. It probably won't matter that much, just a recommendation. Make sure that if you have any questions during the build, then post a topic here or search Google so that something doesn't mess up down the road.
April 18, 2008 2:52:53 AM

are you preferential to amd?
you could build a faster intel system for the same budget
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April 18, 2008 9:47:26 PM

Hey thx guys for those replies!
@commander_keen : yea , some guys on others forums told me the same thing. Im preferential to AMD, but if I can have a better balance with an Intel cpu for the same price, I'd give it a shot. The only problem is that I know nothing about Intel products and how to choose them. So I'll have to do a bit of research.
But can you elaborate a bit more on how an Intel could be more beneficial on my system than an AMD? Does it give more Ghz or anything ?

Thx again
April 19, 2008 1:48:04 PM

Ok, I did some research and read some guide to buy Intel cpu.
I learned there are difference between Ghz for AMD and Intel, but when I looked at the Intel Core 2 E6600 2.4Ghz it costs 270$. And it's only 155$ for a AMD 6000+ 3.0Ghz. Why is there a so huge price difference even when one is way lower than the other?
Also,since intel is great overclocker, but I don't plan to overclock anything, so is there that big difference if I buy a AMD 3.0Ghz or a Intel 2.2 Ghz, for a same price? My friend who has a AMD 6000 says he runs most games great and since Im just a part-time gamer, it won't bother me that much

Thx
April 19, 2008 2:26:29 PM

northZephyr said:
Ok, I did some research and read some guide to buy Intel cpu.
I learned there are difference between Ghz for AMD and Intel, but when I looked at the Intel Core 2 E6600 2.4Ghz it costs 270$. And it's only 155$ for a AMD 6000+ 3.0Ghz. Why is there a so huge price difference even when one is way lower than the other?
Also,since intel is great overclocker, but I don't plan to overclock anything, so is there that big difference if I buy a AMD 3.0Ghz or a Intel 2.2 Ghz, for a same price? My friend who has a AMD 6000 says he runs most games great and since Im just a part-time gamer, it won't bother me that much

Thx



E6600 at $270? Where did you get that kind of price? A quad core Q6600 cost $200 those days.
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