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Hello all, and thank you. This is my first box, and I'm kinda sure the parts are compatible, but I don't want to lay down a grand unless I'm dead certain. It would be a great help if I had some extra eyes that know more than me to look over these parts. It would also be nice to see if I'm going a little overboard on some of the parts. As long as it can run the Daz studio programs, Elder Scrolls: Oblivion and its worldbuilder, World of Warcraft,etc., without significant lag, I'll be happy. I'm hooking two monitors to it, if that helps any. I've got about $USD 1000 for parts, and I already have a case, HDD, and optical drives. I plan on installing XP as well. I tried to future-proof this thing by about 3 years.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817814014
Tagan BZ 800W metabolism

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128090
Gigabyte AM2+ GA-MA78GM-S2H

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127333
MSI 512MB 256-bit PCIe16 v2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103249
AMD Phenom 9850 Black edition quad

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820141241
2 x 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533

Any comments are welcome.


Message edited by SmilingAhab on 04-18-2008 at 08:53:13 PM
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none of your links are working... what is the motherboard model number? and is there a particular reason you chose AMD over intel? I understand the AM2+ mainboards are supposed to support AM3 cpus in the future, and that intel is discontinuing lga775 socket with nehalem.. but I am just curious as to your motives so I can help you better....


Message edited by Hard Line on 04-18-2008 at 07:31:47 PM
Reply to Hard Line

ill just say. maybe AMD isnt the right choice at the moment. consider something else. i wont say what. but the people here sure will tell u better than me. :)

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Reply to night_wolf_in

Not sure if Tagan PSUs are good or not, but 800w is probably overkill. Try this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139004

You also might want to get ddr2 800 instead of 533.

Reply to San Pedro

@ Pedro: I totally didn't realize I picked out 533. I went with the tagan, first because one of my birthday gifts are $100 off any part I want, courtesy of my friends; second, I'm interested in the whole multiple rail thing, what's your take on it? Third, eeeeeeeeet's shiiiiiiiiiiny. Maybe 800w is overkill - I'll look at the 600w ones.

@night_wolf & hardline:
I am a rabid AMD fanboy. I remember my mother helping me install my first K6; fond memories.

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Fixed the links @ the top - dunno why there were 3 periods where Item= should be...

new memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820146720
mushkin 2x1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM 1066

new power box:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341001
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W

new mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813138102
BIOSTAR TA770 A2+ AM2+


Message edited by SmilingAhab on 04-18-2008 at 10:45:20 PM
Reply to SmilingAhab

Its crazy to buy an AMD 9850 BE for $235 when there's Intel Q6600 and E8400 avail for ~200.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardwar [...] /page6.asp

Also, the 8800GT is available for $159 at tigerdirect.com ..... get that instead of the 9600gt for the same price.

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Reply to mihirkula

mihirkula wrote :

Its crazy to buy an AMD 9850 BE for $235 when there's Intel Q6600 and E8400 avail for ~200.

Agreed, but if he wants to be nostalgic who's to say no.

Reply to Zorg

mihirkula wrote :

Its crazy to buy an AMD 9850 BE for $235 when there's Intel Q6600 and E8400 avail for ~200.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardwar [...] /page6.asp

Also, the 8800GT is available for $159 at tigerdirect.com ..... get that instead of the 9600gt for the same price.


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Reply to Shadow703793

Given that you've decided on AMD, it looks like you've made the changes I might have suggested. The 780G boards are apparently not compatible with the 9850BE because they can't provide enough juice, and smoke. I don't have the link, but the article is on anandtech.com. You've also corrected the memory to something considerably faster.
As far as the PSU, I think you'll be happy as long as you've chosen one from tier-3 or better from this (admittedly a little dated) list: http://www.tomswiki.com/page/Tiere [...] gs?t=anon. A 550W unit such the one suggested by San Pedro would be sufficient.
I do think you'd get a better system if you went with Intel, but that doesn't mean you won't be happy with AMD. The GPU will matter more for your games, so I'll agree on the 8800GT.

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Reply to jtt283

Tagan actually make great PSU's with ridiculous packages, some come with anti-static gloves, and odd little carrying cases. honestly though especially since your using (power-conscious) AMD chip 800watts is completely unnecessary.

PS: I'm told less rails is better, though I'm not up on my electrical engineering to know why.
check out www.3dgameman.com he reviews a ton of PSU's and cases

Reply to johhnyboy19

I would recomend this PSU,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703005
And a biostar Motherboard? I would go with a better brand like Gigabyte or asus.

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Reply to SuicideSilence

@suicide: What's wrong with Biostar?

@Johnny: I always thought it was the other way around, so a part pulling too much juice on one rail doesn't rob from a part on another rail.

question - I want to keep the AM2+ mobo with the PCIe16 v2 video card, but I want to put an Athlon 64 x2 in until AMD comes out with a better Phenom. Is the Athlon compatible with PCIe16 v2?

I switched out the memory and saved some money, so
=-----------------=
some part changes:
vcard:
http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6814130328
EVGA 512-P3-N862-AR GeForce 9600GT

core:
http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6819103773
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz

memory:
http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6820231098
G.SKILL (2 x 1GB) DDR2 SDRAM 800


thinking of these though:
mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128081
GIGABYTE GA-MA770-DS3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 - looks future-resistant, and that biostar uses an 8 pin cpu power connection.

power:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817226002
SIGMA SHARK SP-635 ATX12V V2.01 635W


Message edited by SmilingAhab on 04-19-2008 at 04:05:31 PM
Reply to SmilingAhab

^I wouldn't go with that PSU since it is some what of a no-name brand.

 


SuicideSilence wrote :

I would recommend this PSU,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703005
And a biostar Motherboard? I would go with a better brand like Gigabyte or asus.


I second him on no BIOSTAR motherboard. I had 2 BIOSTAR boards die on me a long time back (~3-4years). Since then I have switched to ASUS and Gigabyte and had used over 40+ boards from those manufactures and have yet need to have one die on me. Agreed on the PP&C 610 on quality. Still it's an over kill. Try to get a Corsair 450/550VX.


Message edited by Shadow703793 on 04-22-2008 at 10:53:35 PM
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Reply to Shadow703793

Alright, power scanning @550W:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139004
CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX ATX12V V2.2 550W

I like that it auto-detects voltage, very nub-friendly.

Reply to SmilingAhab

^Good PSU. Gets my recommendation.

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Reply to Shadow703793

So, the parts list is complete. It's future-resistant, has all the power I can afford, and looks good. Thanks for your help! If anything goes wrong, I'll post. As long as I keep myself grounded I should be fine.

Reply to SmilingAhab
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