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April 18, 2008 5:21:33 PM

Hello all, and thank you. This is my first box, and I'm kinda sure the parts are compatible, but I don't want to lay down a grand unless I'm dead certain. It would be a great help if I had some extra eyes that know more than me to look over these parts. It would also be nice to see if I'm going a little overboard on some of the parts. As long as it can run the Daz studio programs, Elder Scrolls: Oblivion and its worldbuilder, World of Warcraft,etc., without significant lag, I'll be happy. I'm hooking two monitors to it, if that helps any. I've got about $USD 1000 for parts, and I already have a case, HDD, and optical drives. I plan on installing XP as well. I tried to future-proof this thing by about 3 years.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817814014
Tagan BZ 800W metabolism

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128090
Gigabyte AM2+ GA-MA78GM-S2H

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127333
MSI 512MB 256-bit PCIe16 v2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103249
AMD Phenom 9850 Black edition quad

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141241
2 x 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533

Any comments are welcome.

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April 18, 2008 5:30:57 PM

none of your links are working... what is the motherboard model number? and is there a particular reason you chose AMD over intel? I understand the AM2+ mainboards are supposed to support AM3 cpus in the future, and that intel is discontinuing lga775 socket with nehalem.. but I am just curious as to your motives so I can help you better....
April 18, 2008 5:31:39 PM

ill just say. maybe AMD isnt the right choice at the moment. consider something else. i wont say what. but the people here sure will tell u better than me. :) 
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April 18, 2008 6:06:10 PM

@ Pedro: I totally didn't realize I picked out 533. I went with the tagan, first because one of my birthday gifts are $100 off any part I want, courtesy of my friends; second, I'm interested in the whole multiple rail thing, what's your take on it? Third, eeeeeeeeet's shiiiiiiiiiiny. Maybe 800w is overkill - I'll look at the 600w ones.

@night_wolf & hardline:
I am a rabid AMD fanboy. I remember my mother helping me install my first K6; fond memories.

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Fixed the links @ the top - dunno why there were 3 periods where Item= should be...

new memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146720
mushkin 2x1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM 1066

new power box:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341001
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W

new mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138102
BIOSTAR TA770 A2+ AM2+
April 18, 2008 10:19:11 PM

mihirkula said:
Its crazy to buy an AMD 9850 BE for $235 when there's Intel Q6600 and E8400 avail for ~200.
Agreed, but if he wants to be nostalgic who's to say no.
April 19, 2008 12:20:58 AM

Given that you've decided on AMD, it looks like you've made the changes I might have suggested. The 780G boards are apparently not compatible with the 9850BE because they can't provide enough juice, and smoke. I don't have the link, but the article is on anandtech.com. You've also corrected the memory to something considerably faster.
As far as the PSU, I think you'll be happy as long as you've chosen one from tier-3 or better from this (admittedly a little dated) list: http://www.tomswiki.com/page/Tiered+PSU+Listings?t=anon. A 550W unit such the one suggested by San Pedro would be sufficient.
I do think you'd get a better system if you went with Intel, but that doesn't mean you won't be happy with AMD. The GPU will matter more for your games, so I'll agree on the 8800GT.
April 19, 2008 4:54:52 AM

Tagan actually make great PSU's with ridiculous packages, some come with anti-static gloves, and odd little carrying cases. honestly though especially since your using (power-conscious) AMD chip 800watts is completely unnecessary.

PS: I'm told less rails is better, though I'm not up on my electrical engineering to know why.
check out www.3dgameman.com he reviews a ton of PSU's and cases
April 19, 2008 1:44:33 PM

@suicide: What's wrong with Biostar?

@Johnny: I always thought it was the other way around, so a part pulling too much juice on one rail doesn't rob from a part on another rail.

question - I want to keep the AM2+ mobo with the PCIe16 v2 video card, but I want to put an Athlon 64 x2 in until AMD comes out with a better Phenom. Is the Athlon compatible with PCIe16 v2?

I switched out the memory and saved some money, so
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some part changes:
vcard:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16814130328
EVGA 512-P3-N862-AR GeForce 9600GT

core:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16819103773
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz

memory:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16820231098
G.SKILL (2 x 1GB) DDR2 SDRAM 800


thinking of these though:
mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128081
GIGABYTE GA-MA770-DS3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 - looks future-resistant, and that biostar uses an 8 pin cpu power connection.

power:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817226002
SIGMA SHARK SP-635 ATX12V V2.01 635W
April 22, 2008 8:50:03 PM

^I wouldn't go with that PSU since it is some what of a no-name brand.


SuicideSilence said:
I would recommend this PSU,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And a biostar Motherboard? I would go with a better brand like Gigabyte or asus.

I second him on no BIOSTAR motherboard. I had 2 BIOSTAR boards die on me a long time back (~3-4years). Since then I have switched to ASUS and Gigabyte and had used over 40+ boards from those manufactures and have yet need to have one die on me. Agreed on the PP&C 610 on quality. Still it's an over kill. Try to get a Corsair 450/550VX.
April 25, 2008 7:22:23 PM

^Good PSU. Gets my recommendation.
April 26, 2008 1:34:44 AM

So, the parts list is complete. It's future-resistant, has all the power I can afford, and looks good. Thanks for your help! If anything goes wrong, I'll post. As long as I keep myself grounded I should be fine.
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