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New PC, Final revision, plz take a look.

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April 20, 2008 3:36:30 AM

Well I have revised all my parts & here is what I was able to come up with (see the link below)

This computer will be used for gaming, & for me to learn overclocking (maybe not a great idea lol, ill be careful I promise :D )

COOLER MASTER cosmos S
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16811119150
I was looking at 2 cases the Cosmos Stacker and Cosmos S. Both are very similar in price. Cosmos s in my opinion looks better & all set for water cooling, something I might do in the future.

DFI LP LT P35 T2R LGA 775 Intel P35 Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136039
This has probably been the toughest decision for me. Because I am not going for SLI the P35 mobo looked like the best choice for me. This mobo has 3 pci slots that I need and I heard great things about the overclocking ability as well as great support for Quad Cores

EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX(G92)
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16814130339
I have a 24” monitor and this single card solution should work great for me. I know that 8800GS offers a similar performance, but I am solid on this decision

ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ800 ATX12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817814014
This has also been a tuff choice for me. I know that this psu is overpriced, but I do want the lights that comes with it & the ability to have the removable cables. This psu comes with a lot of extra wires, everything that I might need in the future. 800W is for a future sli that I might do when Nahelm will become available.

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166
I heard great things about this 1066 ram. Not 2 many people had problems with it. I really hope it will be a good overcloker.

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB (X2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218
I originally was thinking about going with the 7200.11 32mb cache hdd, but after reading reviews this hdd is actually faster. I am still deciding if I should go for raid 0

ASUS Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW (X2)
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16827135156
Don’t know much about this CD-ROM, but people on newegg seems to like it. If you can suggest something better please do, keep in mind I’m trying to have a silent pc.

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116493&Tpk=32-116-493
In order for me to use the 4G vista 64 is the main option, I decided to go for the SP1 ready to save time.

D-Link DGL-4500 Draft Xtreme N Gaming Router
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127243
This looks like the best gaming router available. Even though I will be suing hardwired connection, I still have people in the house who need wireless signal.

CORSAIR CMXAF1 Fans
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16835704001
This is just something something to keep my ram cool after overcloking

Scythe KM01-BK "KAZE MASTER" 5.25" Bay Fan Controller
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16811998038
To have the ability to control the speed of my fans sounds great, especially when I go to sleep to keep the noise down.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Quad Core
http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=29316
I know some might say go for Q6600, but I’m solid in this decision.

Thermalright ULTIMA-90
http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=25999
Because the Cosmos S case has the 200mm fan on the side, not 2 many big heatsinks will fit in it, and I don’t want to remove the fan. That is why I decided to go for the Ultima 90 and not the True 120. Ultima 90 has almost the identical performance

Noctua NF-B9-1600 92MM
http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=28452
This is a 92mm fan for my Ultima 90

Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F 120MM
http://www.ncixus.com/products/17749/SFF21F/Scythe/ (X5)
I will be suing this fan to replace my stock fans in the Cosmos S case

SAMSUNG Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16821103203
Some people might find it silly having a floppy drive in a gaming pc, but I got it primarily for bios updates

This is my main list, I also will be getting some miscellaneous stuff like PC cable ties…etc

My main question is, do I have everything to build and overclock the PC? (I do have thermal paste already) As u can see I am getting 2 hdd, 2 cd-rom and 1 floppy, will my mobo come with all the wires for it? Will I be needing any other wires for like maybe fans or something?

My 2nd question is, I want to be able piggyback 3 fans on one out of 4 fan controllers what wire do I need for that? And will my fan controller be able to handle 3 fans on one controller?

Your feedback is greatly appreciated,

Thank you.

More about : final revision plz

April 20, 2008 2:46:12 PM

CPU - Consider the retail version for a bit more. It's 3 year vs 1 year warranty.

MOBO - If you're new to overclocking, consider the newbie-friendly GA-P35-DS3L/R. If you like challenges, DFI is good. This is the board to consider. Less expensive. Good overclockability.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - The G.SKILL ram you picked out doesn't have much room for overclocking, but is otherwise fine for your job. If you want something that can be pushed beyond specs, look at G.SKILL HZ.

HDD - The WD6400AAKS may very well be the new 320GB platter drive which is faster than many others. Regardless of the drives, consider a plan B - a backup of the os & software.

FANS - You can chain the fans up to a single molex power connector to the PSU or a fan controller. Most fan controllers can do more than 1 fan on 1 line.
April 20, 2008 6:25:05 PM

^^ agreed....

If you want a good overclocker for quads get the Asus P5K-E (nother choice)

It has 8 phase power regulators versus 4 (i think) on those DFIs. A friend of mine could only get 3.2 on the DFI (experienced overclocker) and then upgraded to a P5K-E and was able to push 3.6 cause of the cleaner power
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April 20, 2008 7:24:23 PM

No point in going retail over oem cause as soon as you oc you void the warranty
April 20, 2008 7:50:37 PM

akhilles said:
CPU - Consider the retail version for a bit more. It's 3 year vs 1 year warranty.

MOBO - If you're new to overclocking, consider the newbie-friendly GA-P35-DS3L/R. If you like challenges, DFI is good. This is the board to consider. Less expensive. Good overclockability.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - The G.SKILL ram you picked out doesn't have much room for overclocking, but is otherwise fine for your job. If you want something that can be pushed beyond specs, look at G.SKILL HZ.

HDD - The WD6400AAKS may very well be the new 320GB platter drive which is faster than many others. Regardless of the drives, consider a plan B - a backup of the os & software.

FANS - You can chain the fans up to a single molex power connector to the PSU or a fan controller. Most fan controllers can do more than 1 fan on 1 line.


Why doesnt the ram has much room for overcloking? The "WD6400AAKS" are really good thats the reason I'm getting them. I might get 2 and do a raid 0 and get liek 1 750g 7200.11 32mb cache hdd for storage.

Silverion77 said:
^^ agreed....

If you want a good overclocker for quads get the Asus P5K-E (nother choice)

It has 8 phase power regulators versus 4 (i think) on those DFIs. A friend of mine could only get 3.2 on the DFI (experienced overclocker) and then upgraded to a P5K-E and was able to push 3.6 cause of the cleaner power


The reason I decided to go with the DFI P35 LT version is because of the "8 phase power regulators" Your friend must of had a different p35 mobo.

Az00123 said:
No point in going retail over oem cause as soon as you oc you void the warranty


Will they be able to tell the difference? Even if u set everything back to normal?
April 20, 2008 10:01:00 PM

no...thats the point...its very unclear if they can actually tell. I believe not so go with retail

My bad on the mobo...it was a different model
April 20, 2008 10:19:51 PM

One problem is I cant find the retail version anywhere...

Do u know where I can get it?
April 21, 2008 11:10:54 AM

You're right though it's hard to find the retail yorkies.

Do you understand overclocking? If so, you would know the limit of the ram. The ram might not go far past their specs 1066mhz. Your goal is to overclock the cpu, not the ram... Got it? The cpu isn't at 1066mhz at stock. To be exact, the cpu is at 333mhz right now. Your ram will limit the fsb to 533mhz-ish.

533 x 8 = what?
April 21, 2008 5:21:13 PM

ddr2-1066 is a waste of money unless you're using a 45nm dual core.
45nm quads typically hit the fsb wall at around 450 fsb, you'll be able to push most good sets of ddr2-800 (from reliable companies like crucial, g.skill, corsair, ocz) to that quite easily.
I'm not sure how you can say ddr2-1066 will limit something, it probably won't limit anything unless you're going extreme oc with ln2, and even then it's unlikely.
April 22, 2008 12:04:08 PM

Is that directed at me?

Quote:
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231166
I heard great things about this 1066 ram. Not 2 many people had problems with it. I really hope it will be a good overcloker.


Did you read his original post? He wanted good overclocking ram. That's not it. He wants to overclock the ram, unless he misphrased it. He wants micron d9's.

I said it in my last post that his ram wouldn't limit his cpu o/c. His ram would limit his ram's o/c, if that's what he's gonna do. Shall I repeat it?

If he bought the same config in the OP, he would be underclocking the ram to overclock the cpu.
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