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AMD vs. Intel (Two builds; One choice; Need your opinions)

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April 20, 2008 3:24:07 PM

Background information :

- What will the PC used for ?
For general gaming (no hardcore) : COD4, BF2, GRAW, Crysis, Frontline, etc.
For personal graphic project : Photoshop, AfterEffects, Maya, Vegas, etc.

- What was my initial budget ?
Around 1000 CAD. But I obviously exceeded..

- Did I do my homework ?
Two weeks of intense reading, researching. Covered most computing forums and websites (Tom's Hardware, HardForums, Guru3D, etc.)

- Current parts
Already have monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers

- Why did I do two build (AMD and Intel) ?
Because my first build (AMD), a lot of people told me it was (very) unbalanced and I should turn toward Intel for a better performance and price benefit. So I did more research and I ended up with a Intel build while keeping in mind that I already exceeded to budget, so every dollar counts.

The two builds (AMD and Intel)

AMD

CPU: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21228&vpn=ADX6000CZBOX&manufacture=AMD
AMD Athlon 6000+ 3.0 Ghz

Motherboard: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18545&vpn=M2N32%2DSLI%20DELUXE%20WIF&manufacture=ASUS
ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe

Memory
4x 1G Kingston PC6400 800mhz DDR Non-ECC DIMMs

Video: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27371&vpn=PVT88GYDF4&manufacture=XFX
NVidia XFX 8800 GTS 512 mb Alpha Dog Edition

Hard Drive: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25667&vpn=ST3250410AS&manufacture=Seagate
Seagate 7200.10 250G SATAII 16mb cache

Power Supply: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19648&vpn=SST%2DST65ZF&manufacture=Silverstone%20Technology
Silverstone Zeus 650W ATX12V Active PFC

Case: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21123&vpn=NINE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC
Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay
. 1 top 200mm fan (included)
. 1 rear120mm fan (included)
. 2 front 120mm fan (included)
. 1 side 120mm fan (optional & WILL buy: Coolermaster 1220rpm http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14259&vpn=TLF%2DS12%2DEB&manufacture=COOLERMASTER
. 1 middle 120mm fan (optional & WON'T buy)

TOTAL AMD Build : ~1100 CAD

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Intel

CPU: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=22211&vpn=BX80562Q6600&manufacture=Intel
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB

Motherboard: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25851&vpn=P5K%2DE%2FWIFI%2DAP&manufacture=ASUS
ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP ATX LGA775 P35

Memory
4x 1G Kingston PC6400 800mhz DDR Non-ECC DIMMs

Video: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27247&vpn=BFGE88512GTSE&manufacture=BFG%20Technologies
NVidia BFG 8800 GTS 512 mb

CPU Heatsink (reviews say the stock cooler is ****) http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25511&vpn=CF900&manufacture=Zerotherm
Zerotherm CF900

PSU http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19831&vpn=CMPSU%2D620HX&manufacture=CORSAIR
Corsair 620HX

Hard Drive, Case
See AMD Build

TOTAL Intel Build : ~1180 CAD

Conclusion :

Which build do you think would be better & why (they're around 100$ difference).
*Do you think some elements (PSU, Case) should be adapted depending on the build ?
*Do you think the 5 fans computer case would be way too much for the PSU to bear ?
Finally, any suggestion/comment/advice of any kind would be greatly appreciated since this is my first time build.

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April 20, 2008 3:37:56 PM

First question. Starting from scratch I don't think anyone would go with the AMD CPU you listed over the Intel Q6600. Also, I don't think it's an entirely fair price comparison since it appears you picked out a more expensive MOBO for the Intel system.

Not sure what you're asking in your second question.

Third. Either PSU will be fine... so no worries on the that front.

I'm not familiar with the heatsink you picked out... hopefully someone else will offer you some advice on that front. The stock Intel cooler is OK, but something tells me you're looking for a bit more than "OK"
April 20, 2008 3:39:15 PM

The Intel... cos..
1.. It is a quad as against AMD..
2.. It will overclock to ATLEAST 3.2 and even 3.6 if u r lucky.
3.. ur graphics programs will benefit more from the quad!
4.. Definitely more future-proof.. might last u a couple of years..
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April 20, 2008 3:40:56 PM

Oh man.. I got beat to be the first to reply :( 
April 20, 2008 3:41:11 PM

PSU is fine. Fans don't use that much power, they shouldn't be a problem. The Q6600 far outperforms the AMD cpu. You should get an aftermarket cooler for it if you want to oc. The motherboard should reliably oc it to 3.6ghz.

Consider a cheaper 8800gt if you want to save money. Everything else good as is.
April 20, 2008 3:49:44 PM

northZephyr said:
Background information :

- What will the PC used for ?
For general gaming (no hardcore) : COD4, BF2, GRAW, Crysis, Frontline, etc.
For personal graphic project : Photoshop, AfterEffects, Maya, Vegas, etc.

- What was my initial budget ?
Around 1000 CAD. But I obviously exceeded..

- Did I do my homework ?
Two weeks of intense reading, researching. Covered most computing forums and websites (Tom's Hardware, HardForums, Guru3D, etc.)

- Current parts
Already have monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers

- Why did I do two build (AMD and Intel) ?
Because my first build (AMD), a lot of people told me it was (very) unbalanced and I should turn toward Intel for a better performance and price benefit. So I did more research and I ended up with a Intel build while keeping in mind that I already exceeded to budget, so every dollar counts.

The two builds (AMD and Intel)

AMD

CPU: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21228&vpn=ADX6000CZBOX&manufacture=AMD
AMD Athlon 6000+ 3.0 Ghz

Motherboard: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18545&vpn=M2N32%2DSLI%20DELUXE%20WIF&manufacture=ASUS
ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe

Memory
4x 1G Kingston PC6400 800mhz DDR Non-ECC DIMMs

Video: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27371&vpn=PVT88GYDF4&manufacture=XFX
NVidia XFX 8800 GTS 512 mb Alpha Dog Edition

Hard Drive: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25667&vpn=ST3250410AS&manufacture=Seagate
Seagate 7200.10 250G SATAII 16mb cache

Power Supply: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19648&vpn=SST%2DST65ZF&manufacture=Silverstone%20Technology
Silverstone Zeus 650W ATX12V Active PFC

Case: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21123&vpn=NINE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=ANTEC
Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay
. 1 top 200mm fan (included)
. 1 rear120mm fan (included)
. 2 front 120mm fan (included)
. 1 side 120mm fan (optional & WILL buy: Coolermaster 1220rpm http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14259&vpn=TLF%2DS12%2DEB&manufacture=COOLERMASTER
. 1 middle 120mm fan (optional & WON'T buy)

TOTAL AMD Build : ~1100 CAD

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Intel

CPU: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=22211&vpn=BX80562Q6600&manufacture=Intel
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB

Motherboard: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25851&vpn=P5K%2DE%2FWIFI%2DAP&manufacture=ASUS
ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP ATX LGA775 P35

Memory
4x 1G Kingston PC6400 800mhz DDR Non-ECC DIMMs

Video: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27247&vpn=BFGE88512GTSE&manufacture=BFG%20Technologies
NVidia BFG 8800 GTS 512 mb

CPU Heatsink (reviews say the stock cooler is ****) http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25511&vpn=CF900&manufacture=Zerotherm
Zerotherm CF900

PSU http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19831&vpn=CMPSU%2D620HX&manufacture=CORSAIR
Corsair 620HX

Hard Drive, Case
See AMD Build

TOTAL Intel Build : ~1180 CAD

Conclusion :

Which build do you think would be better & why (they're around 100$ difference).
*Do you think some elements (PSU, Case) should be adapted depending on the build ?
*Do you think the 5 fans computer case would be way too much for the PSU to bear ?
Finally, any suggestion/comment/advice of any kind would be greatly appreciated since this is my first time build.


I would go with intel route. here are a few suggestions:

1. Replace the motherboard with gigabyte p 35 ds3l provided that you stick with q 6600.
2. What is the logic behind 4*1 gb? I would go with 2*2gb so that you will have room for upgrade later.
3.It is a good practice to upgrade the stock fan. But, if you can get q6600 Go version, you can easily oc it to 2.8 with stock cooling without going over 65 C during stress test.

The rest looks good.

Good luck.
April 20, 2008 4:16:47 PM

wow thx guys for the quick replies. Now I think I'll definitly go with the Intel one, even if it's more expensive.
One thing @htoonthura, that motherboard (gigabyte p35 ds3l) you suggested looks like really great (and not even expensive). But no firewire.... I need it for my video transfer, is there a similar model with IEEE?
I'll definitely pick 2x2g also for the ram. And the graphic card, I shall see if there are other manufacturer that offer better price.

also, is there that much improvement from 8800GT to 8800GTS ?
8800GT : http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26781&vpn=BF...
8800GTS : http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27247&vpn=BF...

50$ difference.. GTS has a bit more clock speed than GT, but will it affect considerably gameplay ?

oh and btw, for the PSU, I was just asking if there'll be enough plugs to make all 5 case fans run.. I don't know much about PSU/fan connections ( I think it's with the molex plugs)... so hopefully there'll be plenty of wires to connect each fans?
April 20, 2008 4:49:51 PM

8800gts use the g92 core with 128 stream processors enabled, while
8800gt use the same g92 core with 112 stream processors. Gts's g92 is
also binned higher and can overclock more. Gts's dual slot cooler also
helps, an improvement over gt's single slot cooler.



9800gtx use the same g92 core with the same 128 stream processors, with
the same 256bit memory bandwidth. Everything is identical to the
8800gts except core clock, gtx's is higher. The difference between
8800gts and 8800gt is greater than that between 9800gtx and 8800gts.
This naturally shows in benchmarks.
April 20, 2008 7:19:09 PM

Keep in mind that the Nehalem is coming out end of this year, Intel are also changing the sockets. If you cannot wait, go for Intel, their processors have a larger amount of L2 cache which is important for gaming.
April 20, 2008 7:30:28 PM

Ok
I've been told that AMD 6000+ is a high dual core CPU while Intel Q6600 is low quad core CPU. So they're similar unless I OC the intel one.
Consequently I decided to get a cheaper Intel E8400 3.0ghz dual core. Then, for the motherboard, I looked at the proposed Gigabyte p35 ds3l elder brother : EP35-DS3P, which offer IEEE support.
So what do you think of the new E8400/gigabyte combo ?


EDIT: Ok I checked for some recent HD and I found this one for a special discount:
[L=Seagate 500G 7200 32mb]http://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=3...[/L]

What do you think, is this a ok product or a customer trap ? :p 

Anyway, I'll need some confirmation because the new website I've found out have incredibly low prices but the majority of the discounts end on April 30, so I'll have to complete my build with some DVD writers and buy within a week.
Thx again
April 20, 2008 10:44:04 PM

Intel.

and no, whoever told you that the AMD6000+ is a huigh dual is a bit off... it's close to the top of the line for AMD, but it's a midrange dual... and the Q6600 and soon to be Q6700 is the mainstream quad territory
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