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May 3, 2008 1:11:47 AM

Trying to replace dying Radeon 9700 Pro on my 5-year old system...
What do you recommend as today's best AGP video card? Would appreciate your advices and comments!

Here is what I've got......

What system I will use the AGP video card for:
- CPU: Intel Pentium 4 2.2 GHz; Socket 478; Chipset 845/ICH2; Memory DDR266 (2GB)
- Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-8IRXP: 1 x AGP 4X slot (1.5V - 1.8V) and AGP 2.0 compliant
- Power supply: Enermax 530W Power [Model: EG651P-VE (FMA)]
- PC case: Lian Li PC-70 USB ATX Full-Tower (Silver)
- Display: NEC LCD 1850E (Planning to upgrade to Dell 2707WFP 27" soon)
* No upgrade plan for the rest - this will be my last video card for the system

What I will use the AGP video card for:
I am a movie buff watching a lot of HD videos and movies. I am not a gamer but thinking about trying out some of those bad boys just for fun.

The card should have at least 256mb RAM, and better RAM clock speed and the RAM type.
I don't really need fancy stuff like TV turner and such...Since this will be my last video card upgrade till the system becomes useless (CPU/mobo wise) I need a card that lasts a bit longer.

What I am considering:
nVidia 7800GS or 7600GT: Since they are both quite affordable, I am thinking...just pick up the better one...

Again thanks for the help!

May 3, 2008 1:30:17 AM

hi!
the best agp card today would be the ati radeon hd3850.its good and can handle games/video but you would be bottlenecked by the cpu you have.
bottomline--get a system upgrade because the agp is a dead platform no matter how much the card makers try pushing it.
May 3, 2008 1:32:44 AM

sunny27 said:
hi!
the best agp card today would be the ati radeon hd3850.its good and can handle games/video but you would be bottlenecked by the cpu you have.
bottomline--get a system upgrade because the agp is a dead platform no matter how much the card makers try pushing it.

The 3850 will be greatly bottlenecked by that P4 2.2ghz.
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May 3, 2008 1:35:55 AM

The HD2600Pro and HD2600XT are the way to go, you can get them pretty cheap and salvage your current system for a little while longer.
a c 176 U Graphics card
May 3, 2008 1:50:47 AM

Sunny and kyle are both right. The 3850 is the fastest AGP card out there, while the 2600pro is the card you want. I was going to question whether either of these cards would fit in your motherboard, but then I noticed it supports AGP 4x, so your good to go.
May 3, 2008 2:05:03 AM

in the situation you're in, it would probably be better to start fresh with a new system. I was in the same situation as you a few months ago, considering those same two cards. I ended up getting the 7600, but now i wish i had saved the money and put it towards my new system, which im ordering in the next week or so.
May 3, 2008 2:13:12 AM

I agree, it would be much better if you can save the money for a better system. Does the HD movie play well on that system of yours? Well actually, the 9700Pro shouldn't be able to do so...
May 3, 2008 2:18:46 AM

Evilonigiri said:
I agree, it would be much better if you can save the money for a better system. Does the HD movie play well on that system of yours? Well actually, the 9700Pro shouldn't be able to do so...

Good point. X264 codec takes a lot of cpu power to decode. The P4 may not be able to play it smoothly.
May 3, 2008 2:26:18 AM

dagger said:
Good point. X264 codec takes a lot of cpu power to decode. The P4 may not be able to play it smoothly.

It really shouldn't. He did say that the vidcard seem to be dying. Perhaps stuttering in the video playback made him think so?
May 3, 2008 2:30:37 AM

Yes, the 264 takes a lot of power.
I have a P4 3.0 ghz and an 8800GTOC and my system struggles playing HD movies.
As Nik_I and Evilonigiri suggested, you'll be better saving your money
and put it towards a new system.
May 3, 2008 2:54:22 AM

4745454b said:
Sunny and kyle are both right. The 3850 is the fastest AGP card out there, while the 2600pro is the card you want. I was going to question whether either of these cards would fit in your motherboard, but then I noticed it supports AGP 4x, so your good to go.

Doing myself a make-over right now, not following much recent trends. Checking specs of those mentioned.
When you are suggesting 2600Pro, did you imply that 3850 is too much for my old system like Sunny and kyle said?

This is my experience with Radeon 9700 Pro while it was working well.
X264 videos play moderately well on my system. However I can't say "fly" - it will take a few secs while fast forward/backwarding. But that is OK with.
And no, my Radeon 9700 Pro is dying by because it is stuttering in the video playback. It was much worse.

Wow so many replies in mere secs, thanks mates!!!
May 3, 2008 3:20:05 AM

New parts now a days are so cheap. You shouldn't waste your time upgrading a AGP system because of the price premium you have to pay for the old AGP bus.

Just save up some coin (like 400-$600) and you can build something much better then you have now.
a c 176 U Graphics card
May 3, 2008 12:11:14 PM

The 3850 is much to much for your system. While I could be wrong, I'd be willing to bet that your 2.2GHz P4 runs on a 400MHz bus rather then a 533/800. (2200 / 400 = 5.5 multiplier, everything else comes back weird.) The 400MHz FSB chips were horrible. I'd also be willing to bet that both the 2600pro and the 3850 would give identical scores for most resolutions seeing as they are both being fed by the same slow CPU.

Usually I tell people to get the best they can afford cause it will carry over to the next build. In this case however, thats not true. Get something cheap that will get you back in the saddle while you save up your money to update your system. This is the cheapest one on newegg, might as well get it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Edit: I caught the error last night, but I was so tired after my shift that I didn't bother to fix it until after I went to bed. 2200 / 100MHz = 22 multiplier, or 2200 / 200 = 1 multiplier. You have to use the real FSB, not the effective. It could be an 800MHz FSB chip, but I'm pretty sure those didn't start until 2.4GHz.
May 4, 2008 12:05:12 AM

Thanks for the helpful hints. They helped me cover as many perspectives as a PC shopper could think of.

A little personal note...
I am in a weird situation - working in Hong Kong at this moment. Unlike in the States. I have to run around and shop at local stores. Nevertheless Newegg links are welcome and serve as great references. As such, my primary motive for this video card upgrade is to replace my current defective Radeon 9700 Pro with a mid-range one that both meets my purposes and helps the system last for another year. In a year when I am back to the States I will do an overall system upgrade.

I will settle with ATI 2600 Pro/XT then. I originally thought about nVidia 7800GS or 7600GT because I am seriously fed up with ATI Catalyst drivers.

My budget for the card is around USD100. I found some that fit the bill at my local stores.
But one big problem though...the video cards are all AGP 8X while my mobo's AGP slot supports only 4X according to Gigabyte. Can I use 8X card on AGP 4X mobo? Hmmm....

May 4, 2008 12:05:54 AM

palmtree said:
Thanks for the helpful hints. They helped me cover as many perspectives as a PC shopper could think of.

A little personal note...
I am in a weird situation - working in Hong Kong at this moment. Unlike in the States. I have to run around and shop at local stores. Nevertheless Newegg links are welcome and serve as great references. As such, my primary motive for this video card upgrade is to replace my current defective Radeon 9700 Pro with a mid-range one that both meets my purposes and helps the system last for another year. In a year when I am back to the States I will do an overall system upgrade.

I will settle with ATI 2600 Pro/XT then. I originally thought about nVidia 7800GS or 7600GT because I am seriously fed up with ATI Catalyst drivers.

My budget for the card is around USD100. I found some that fit the bill at my local stores.
But one big problem though...the video cards are all AGP 8X while my mobo's AGP slot supports only 4X according to Gigabyte. Can I use 8X card on AGP 4X mobo? Hmmm....

Yes, it'll just run at the lower 4x speed.
May 4, 2008 12:20:13 AM

Get the 2600Pro, it's cheaper, and, you're not using it for games aren't you?
a c 176 U Graphics card
May 4, 2008 12:53:41 AM

For the record, the 7800GS and the 7600GT have more or less the same amount of horsepower. The 2600XT would be faster then either of these cards, the 2600pro would (probably, not 100% sure) be about the same. What I'm trying to say is that all three of these card would provide more or less the same (stock) performance.

The 2600pro would help if you watch a lot of videos on your computer because it has a newer decode engine. With the right player, you should be able to watch newer videos using the video card only for play back, useful if your CPU isn't up to the task. The 7800GS might provide a better overclocked performance, but seeing as your CPU is so "poor", I doubt it would make much difference.
May 4, 2008 1:06:35 AM

Thanks a lot 4745454b for the followup help.

BTW this is my software configuration which I will be using for my "poor" system.
Quote:
****Software Configurations****
- OS: Windows XP Pro SP2
- DVD Player: CyberLink Power DVD Ultra 7.3
- Video Player: Media Player Classic 6.4.9.0
- Codecs:
o Koepi's XviD Codecs
o CoreAVC H264 Video Decoder.v1.5.0.0
o AC3Filter
May 4, 2008 1:18:10 AM

Thought about Leadtek Winfast 6800Ultra which I can get from a trusted seller at less than USD80 locally in Hong Kong. Is it any good for HD movies?

I did a bit of catch with the latest and some considerations. They sound amatuar but I am trying get the whole thing done quick. Appreciate your comments and critiques.

ATI Family:
- 2600 Pro/XT (first candidate for HD movies, in)
- X1950 (not yet sure how compared with others)
- 3650 (too much for my system, out!)
- 3850 (too much for my system, out!)

nVidia Family:
* 6800Ultra (not yet sure how compared with others)
* 7600GT (second candidate, in)
* 7800GS (too much for my system, out!)
* 7950GT (too much for my system, out!)
May 4, 2008 1:23:16 AM

Get the 2600Pro if you really wanna save money and watch HD stuffs...
On second account, you should also consider the 3650
a c 176 U Graphics card
May 4, 2008 2:36:02 AM

First, the isn't much difference between the 2600XT and the 3650. They are so close performance wise you'd never be able to see the difference. Second, the 6800ultra has about the same level of performance as the 7600GT/7800GS. I believe the Nvidia 6 and 7 series have the same video decode abilities, so unless you can get the 6800 much cheaper, I'd avoid it for power and heat reasons.

The x1950 has the same decode features as the 6/7 series from Nvidia, but its a little faster then either of those cards. Not sure how the 4x will limit it. If your primary worry is movie watching with some game playing, I'd just get the 2600pro. It shouldn't cost to much (at least over here in the states...) and has the best video decoding abilities compared to all the cards you've mentioned. Add in the lowish cost, and I doubt you'd be able to find better. If high def movie watching isn't a concern, or you want the slightly faster game playing abilities, get the 7800GS/7600GT, as long as its not to much more.
May 4, 2008 2:40:31 AM

I'm not sure which gpu has the most extensive decoding capacities, but it's better to get a newer, but lower range gpu, instead of an older higher range gpu that delivers similar performance, because the newer gpu decodes better. This will take some of the load of decoding codecs off your old cpu.
May 4, 2008 12:25:47 PM

4745454b said:
First, the isn't much difference between the 2600XT and the 3650. They are so close performance wise you'd never be able to see the difference. Second, the 6800ultra has about the same level of performance as the 7600GT/7800GS. I believe the Nvidia 6 and 7 series have the same video decode abilities, so unless you can get the 6800 much cheaper, I'd avoid it for power and heat reasons.

The x1950 has the same decode features as the 6/7 series from Nvidia, but its a little faster then either of those cards. Not sure how the 4x will limit it. If your primary worry is movie watching with some game playing, I'd just get the 2600pro. It shouldn't cost to much (at least over here in the states...) and has the best video decoding abilities compared to all the cards you've mentioned. Add in the lowish cost, and I doubt you'd be able to find better. If high def movie watching isn't a concern, or you want the slightly faster game playing abilities, get the 7800GS/7600GT, as long as its not to much more.


Aaahh, that is kindda info I really wanted. Thanks many times 4745454b!
I was concerned with the possible heat issues with 6800Ultra myself after readings and discussions. So 6800Ultra is out for sure.

I have people recommending against ATI 2600Pro/XT solely because of their lousy drivers. As I had hard time with the ATI drivers before thought not nightmare, I am being held back. Else I will just jump on it and sit back enjoy some movies :D 

After a series of calls to stores, it seems prices go like this for these three, in HK.
ATI HD 2600Pro about USD100 (zero tax and no shipping),
add USD10 I will get 2600XT; and for about USD120 I will get X195Pro.
Price-wise they really don't make too much different to me however I am concerned about which is the wisest choice for my situation. Might just get 2600Pro though!
May 4, 2008 12:27:33 PM

I know these questions are damn. But please, and I promise I am trying to research the latest jargons:D 

Q1: Can my 5-year old system even take GDDR3 video card memory type?
Video card memory has nothing to do with mobo RAM type, right? Because my mobo takes only DDR266 RAM......

Brief description of my system is below.
Quote:
- CPU: Intel Pentium 4 2.2 GHz; Socket 478; Chipset 845/ICH2; Memory DDR266 (2GB)
- Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-8IRXP: 1 x AGP 4X slot (1.5V - 1.8V) and AGP 2.0 compliant
- Power supply: Enermax 530W Power [Model: EG651P-VE (FMA)]
- PC case: Lian Li PC-70 USB ATX Full-Tower (Silver)
- Display: NEC LCD 1850E (Planning to upgrade to Dell 2707WFP 27" soon)


Q2: 128bit or 256bit
Is 256bit better than 128bit or otherwise? Don't laugh!:D 
And in what ways will the difference affecting the card's performance?
May 4, 2008 2:19:04 PM

palmtree said:
Aaahh, that is kindda info I really wanted. Thanks many times 4745454b!
I was concerned with the possible heat issues with 6800Ultra myself after readings and discussions. So 6800Ultra is out for sure.

I have people recommending against ATI 2600Pro/XT solely because of their lousy drivers. As I had hard time with the ATI drivers before thought not nightmare, I am being held back. Else I will just jump on it and sit back enjoy some movies :D 

After a series of calls to stores, it seems prices go like this for these three, in HK.
ATI HD 2600Pro about USD100 (zero tax and no shipping),
add USD10 I will get 2600XT; and for about USD120 I will get X195Pro.
Price-wise they really don't make too much different to me however I am concerned about which is the wisest choice for my situation. Might just get 2600Pro though!

If you can find x1950pro for just $10 more than 2600xt, get it. It's certainly much more powerful.
a c 176 U Graphics card
May 4, 2008 8:01:51 PM

Quote:
I have people recommending against ATI 2600Pro/XT solely because of their lousy drivers. As I had hard time with the ATI drivers before thought not nightmare,


If you trust the people, then you can listen to them. I have an older ATI/AMD card BTW, an x1800XT. Before that I had an 9700, then a 9600pro AIW. I NEVER had any driver issues with any of the cards. I have heard in forums that the AGP bridge currently used on the 2000/3000 series of cards CAN have issues. I haven't heard anything official.

Quote:
After a series of calls to stores, it seems prices go like this for these three, in HK.
ATI HD 2600Pro about USD100 (zero tax and no shipping),
add USD10 I will get 2600XT; and for about USD120 I will get X195Pro.


Are all of these cards AGP? The 2600pro is enough to handle your system, the 2600XT should be alright also. I would spend the extra $10 to get the speed boast. If you are worried about the AGP bridge, what Nvidia cards do you have? If you can find an 8600GT, that would be a good card to. (8600GTS is alright to, but I don't think those were ever put on the AGP bus.) Don't get the 8500GT or anything lower then the 8600GT, they are junk cards. What is the price on the 7600GT?

Quote:
Q1: Can my 5-year old system even take GDDR3 video card memory type?
Video card memory has nothing to do with mobo RAM type, right? Because my mobo takes only DDR266 RAM......


Correct. Video card ram is different from motherboard ram, and they aren't dependent on each other at all. One can be running DDR1 while the other can run DDR5. If it fits in the slot, you can run it. You are going to be plugging the video card into the AGP slot, it doesn't matter what other things are running.

Quote:
Q2: 128bit or 256bit
Is 256bit better than 128bit or otherwise? Don't laugh!:D 
And in what ways will the difference affecting the card's performance?


This number refers to the size of the bus that exists on the card between the GPU and its memory. In theory, the larger the number, the faster the interface. There is another number that is important also, the frequency speed of the ram. These two numbers combined will give you the bandwidth for the card. You can't just look at the bus width and say X is faster then Y. Y's memory might be clocked high enough to overcome the lower bus width. In general, 256bit cards are better then 128bit ones, but its not 100% In general, avoid 64bit cards at all costs.

Quote:
If you can find x1950pro for just $10 more than 2600xt, get it. It's certainly much more powerful.


Was true when the cards first came out, not so true anymore. Newer games run faster on the 2600xt/3650 then they do on the x1950pro.
May 5, 2008 7:45:53 PM

Thanks 4745454b for the detailed replies and follow through. And thank you so much those showed me both great patience and generous help in this thread.

I'm very much discouraged about buying HD2600Pro/XT after reading buyer feedback at Newegg. The feedback clearly shows that the AGP version of HD2600Pro/XT is not dying but dead, killed by AMD's cease in driver development. I highly doubt those OEM manufacturers can release any decent drivers. My tentative conclusion is that I am not going to buy something already dead and not supported.

Second, in my gut I don't trust the concept of pseudo-AGP bridge used in HD2600Pro/XT. I like genuine AGP much better.

In strong contract, nVidia GeForce 7600GT is well received by buyers such as those on Newegg (Model#: 512-A8-N559). I am still fiercely debating with myself. I might either try to get 7600GT as cheap as possible (USD120 in HK) or just cheaper 7600GS. However those of your comments greatly made me concerned about GF 7600 series limited capability.

In short, at this moment I am totally unable to decide which to go for, HD2600 Pro or GF 7600GT/GS.

Again I can forget about gaming even entirely. But as I've said, I love watching HD videos and movies.
a c 176 U Graphics card
May 5, 2008 8:32:03 PM

You want a native AGP card? You'll have to go back several generations to get one of those. 6800GT was native, as was the x800/x850 cards that were AGP. Those were the last cards to not use a bridge chip. (as a matter of fact, any PCIe cards that are of that era are AGP cards with a PCIe bridge chip.)

I don't let newegg reviews shape my purchasing decisions. To many times the "reviews" are left by either noobs, or fanboys and shouldn't be paid attention to. AMD hasn't ceased driver development at all. AMD puts out new drivers every single month. Most of the support is for the 3xxx line, though I'm sure there is some for the 2xxx. You can even get a 3650 for AGP.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm not sure how much of a problem the bridge chip is. I do know that any modern card on AGP would have one. (would be needed to translate the AGP signals being sent to the card to PCIe signals so the chip can understand what its being sent.) If you aren't gaming at all, do try to get the 2600pro/xt or 3650. It has much better video abilities compared to the 7600GT/GS.
a b U Graphics card
May 6, 2008 4:58:02 PM

I have come to rescue you. The 2600 XT is your video card. Great performance with DDR3 RAM, newest HD decode to offload the VC1 and H264 from your poor CPU. Much quieter than the 1950pro, which doesn't have the HD offload. Yes, there were some issues with drivers, but those have been fixed. If you don't like CCC (I don't either) check out Omega's drivers http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php He hasn't updated them in the last few months... but 7.12 is plenty new enough. He specifically states that the 2600 AGP cards are fully supported.
May 6, 2008 5:09:30 PM

nvalhalla said:
I have come to rescue you. The 2600 XT is your video card. Great performance with DDR3 RAM, newest HD decode to offload the VC1 and H264 from your poor CPU. Much quieter than the 1950pro, which doesn't have the HD offload. Yes, there were some issues with drivers, but those have been fixed. If you don't like CCC (I don't either) check out Omega's drivers http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php He hasn't updated them in the last few months... but 7.12 is plenty new enough. He specifically states that the 2600 AGP cards are fully supported.

Did you even read the other posts?
May 7, 2008 1:14:44 PM

Call me crazy, damn or whatever. I bought this.
"SAPPHIRE 100228L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail"

Paid for about USD150 in Hong Kong. I read great review about it, and the price was very cheap. I could not help. Plus I got very tired of debating with myself about what to get - had two sleepless nights.

Just hope my PSU will take it, and CPU does not bottleneck it, too much......

Again thanks all for your helpful comments and great patience. Though the result was a bit different:D 
a c 176 U Graphics card
May 7, 2008 7:32:21 PM

Not a bad price on the GPU. If you were looking at ~$100-$125 for a 3650, and got a 3850 for just a little more, I'd say you did a great job. You now have the fastest card for the AGP, a midrange card for PCIe. You should have no problems watching movies with this beast, and could even play a game or two if you ever felt like it.
May 7, 2008 9:17:22 PM

That's a good deal. I'd say money well invested (other's may disagree). Your PSU should handle it nicely, I'd say you will enjoy your new part.
May 8, 2008 5:43:10 PM

I got my HD3850 AGP card today. Boy, I've never held a card this heavy and long:D 

Well, never had a new video card since my Radeon 9700 Pro, I have question about the video card power cable. It has 8-pin connector that goes to the card and two 4-pin ones that go to PSU. Details are shown in picture.



Do I have connect all those two 4-pin connectors to PSU or will connecting one be enough?

Specs of my PSU
Enermax (by Coolergiant) EG651P-VE V2.01 (24P) FM 24P Series 550W ATX Power Supply

ATX 12 Ver 2.01 SATA, PCI-Express, Dual Fan Quiet for Dual Xeon, AMD MP, Intel P4, AMD XP, K8 CPU: EG651P-VE (24P) (20/24 Pin, Retail)

Quote:
Features:

*Low noise & Ultra Cool" thermal control power supply with dual fans solution recommended by "AMD™ System Cooling Guidelines".
* Support dual Intel Xeon & AMD MP CPU Server/Workstation board.
* FM Function-allows system to monitor power supply for 8cm fan rpm.
* Thermal controlled8cm 9cm fan rpm auto adjusting bases on temp detected inside power supply.
* Support Intel P4 and AMD XP & K8 CPU wit Enhance +12V output +12V and Aux power connector
* Safety Approvals: UL, cUL,TUV, DEMKO, NEMKO, SEMKO, FIMKO.
* EMC Approvals: CE, FCC, CNS directives.
* Dimension W150 x H86 x D140 (mm)
* Adapters for 3 in 1 (EPS +12V, ATX-GES, ATX):
- EPS12V To AMD ATX GES
- EPS12V To ATX 12V

--
Source: http://www.xpcgear.com/eg651pvefm24p.html
a c 176 U Graphics card
May 8, 2008 7:06:43 PM

The adapter is for older PSUs that don't have the newer 8 pin PCIe plug. (mine has a six pin, but not the newer 8 pin.) You do need to plug to of them into the adapter. Seeing as you have an enermax, you might want to go out and get something a little better, more so if you are posting because you don't have enough free plugs to plug into both.
May 8, 2008 8:03:04 PM

Yes. You will need to plug both Molex connectors into the adapter. Otherwise only 2/4 12V lines will be connected (and 2/4 neutral as well). Bad advice, 4745454b.

Second, your PSU should be able to handle the video card. Enermax is a respected OEM, and some of their models are top-tier and have been praised by everyone who's reviewed them (Infiniti, Liberty, Modu/Pro82+, Galaxy, sound familiar?!?!). Your PSU has a Tier 3 rating:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10...
Quote:
Tier 3 Brands - High Quality and Stability, Second Only To Tier 2 Brands
...
Enermax CoolerGiant

and a combined 12V rail rating of 36A:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=205763
Quote:
Enermax http://www.enermax.com/
OEM: Enermax
...
XPS 2 EG651P-VE FM(24P) ~36A

Please don't spread fud.
a c 176 U Graphics card
May 8, 2008 10:29:39 PM

Sorry, I don't see the bad advice that you are talking about.

First, my quote should read,

Quote:
You do need to plug two of them into the adapter.


I'm sorry if that sounded like you should only plug one in, I meant two, but spelled the wrong one.

As for the quality of the unit, I did say that he MIGHT want to get a better one, and MORE SO if he lacks the two free molex plugs. Your own link does claim that its a tier three, so there is room for improvement. No where in my post did I claim that it was a poor unit and should not be run. I'm not sure what FUD you think I'm spreading, but I do not appreciate your tone.

BTW, he probably does have the lack of Molex plugs due to the number of harddrives he runs, and unless he has fixed his reboot problem, a new PSU MIGHT be what he needs. (I hope you caught the might...)
May 9, 2008 3:15:22 AM

Sorry if I sounded a little nasty. I just don't like when people say 'ZOMG, your PSU sux, you need a PCP&C Silencer 750 before your computer blows up!' (And I'm not saying you said anything like that)

I just didn't want the OP to needlessly buy a PSU before even trying it out (or saying he's out of molex connectors). Again, I apologize for the misunderstanding and jumping on you.
May 9, 2008 9:43:26 AM

Damn GPU lunched itself last night....


I guess I'll be getting a 3850 shortly.
a c 176 U Graphics card
May 9, 2008 12:10:48 PM

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May 9, 2008 1:49:31 PM

4745454b said:
^______________

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Dust build up in the wire gauze over the fan = overheat = dead.



I had been considering a new GPU anyway, so it isn't such a big deal...
May 9, 2008 3:17:46 PM

That sucks, what's your setup?
May 9, 2008 4:19:06 PM

KyleSTL said:
That sucks, what's your setup?


That machine is one of the last of the AGP line, and is a skt 939.


4600 X2 in it now, up from an FX53 (or 51, not sure which)
3 GB RAM (not tuned - think its all PC3200 but couldn't be sure)
was a 6800GT
asus a8v deluxe mobo


May 9, 2008 5:31:30 PM

Definitely worth it for <$200 for your system.
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a b U Graphics card
July 22, 2009 8:15:41 AM

palmtree said:
Thought about Leadtek Winfast 6800Ultra which I can get from a trusted seller at less than USD80 locally in Hong Kong. Is it any good for HD movies?

I did a bit of catch with the latest and some considerations. They sound amatuar but I am trying get the whole thing done quick. Appreciate your comments and critiques.

ATI Family:
- 2600 Pro/XT (first candidate for HD movies, in)
- X1950 (not yet sure how compared with others)
- 3650 (too much for my system, out!)
- 3850 (too much for my system, out!)

nVidia Family:
* 6800Ultra (not yet sure how compared with others)
* 7600GT (second candidate, in)
* 7800GS (too much for my system, out!)
* 7950GT (too much for my system, out!)



Thank you.....finally someone who makes a list....these cards are so hard to compare / every brand has its own numbers...Tnaks for your work..
Peter
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