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jtnstnt   05-22-2008 at 04:03:15 AM

My computer crashes while playing supreme commander or company of heroes. I was using speed fan to check the +12v and it constantly says 10.67v. Is my power supply dying or is my overclock to high?
Q6600 B3 @ 9x333mhz 1.4v
Gskill stock 800mhz 1.85v
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carod   05-22-2008 at 05:50:07 AM
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Might be an idea to look at your cpu temps, Computronix seems to be the resident knowledge on temp sensing programs and i believe he has an in depth post somewhere on how to calibrate the readings for different cpu sensors, i didn't go thorugh it myself but i think a program called Real Temp is highly regarded. I say check your temps because i know from personal experience that supreme commander puts a very heavy workload on your cpu.

The easiest way to to check your 12V rail is to use a multimeter if you have one available? maybe you could borrow one off a friend if you know any engineers or they're pretty cheap for a basic one anyway. I wouldn't stress about the speedfan reading unduly since it reports mine as 8.6Volts and i've metered it and it's over 12, the version i'm running simply isn't calibrated for my motherboard. If you do meter it and it really is only 10.67 then thats the time to start worrying :D

Peace

Carod

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kad   05-22-2008 at 07:16:34 AM
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jtnstnt wrote :

My computer crashes while playing supreme commander or company of heroes.


supreme commander sure needs better graphic card but will not crash your computer
It is also one of 2 games available that can use processor muticores (Flight Sim)
Is it stable under Prime 95 for 8 hours ??
Check please and come back

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hughyhunter   05-22-2008 at 08:05:30 AM
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No... you are all wrong :D :kaola:

Your PSU is going to crap!

Back when I was playing Empire Earth (I know you laugh but that game was awesome) my PC used to lock up during the game all the time. At first my ignorant self thought it to be the wireless Ethernet card not producing enough bandwidth for my online entertainment. Until someone suggested rather abruptly that my PSU was dying a slow and meaningful (in the sense it was ruining my gaming experience... you have no idea how frustrating it is to have your game crash when you have been working on a massacre for hours and are just ready to attack the enemies home base) death!
So just replace that rusty PSU with a new one and I promise you (not my money... easy to say) it will work again.

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night_wolf_in   05-22-2008 at 09:19:54 AM
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check out the real voltage of the 12v. and check out your temp. it could be your graphics card. but again. best way to know is. stress test each component.

use primer95 to stress your cpu.

use atitool to stress your gpu.

c what happens.

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carod   05-22-2008 at 03:50:20 PM
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hughyhunter wrote :

No... you are all wrong :D :kaola:

Your PSU is going to crap!

Back when I was playing Empire Earth (I know you laugh but that game was awesome) my PC used to lock up during the game all the time. At first my ignorant self thought it to be the wireless Ethernet card not producing enough bandwidth for my online entertainment. Until someone suggested rather abruptly that my PSU was dying a slow and meaningful (in the sense it was ruining my gaming experience... you have no idea how frustrating it is to have your game crash when you have been working on a massacre for hours and are just ready to attack the enemies home base) death!
So just replace that rusty PSU with a new one and I promise you (not my money... easy to say) it will work again.



You're using your psychic powers to come to this conclusion i take it? Op do some stress testing on components and get some accurate temp and voltage readings before you rush out and buy a new PSU, remember your particular Q6600 runs hotter than the G0 variant which is why my gut instinct is on the temp side but unless you do testing there's no way to know for sure.

Peace

Carod

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hughyhunter   05-22-2008 at 07:19:56 PM
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3.0ghz is not that much of an overclock to produce much heat. I've had mine cooking at 70c with no crashes. I only say PSU from personnel experience with my rig many a time and friends rig a few times. I've gone through many PSUs until I met PCP&C... he has been very good to me! :D

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BLACKSCI   05-22-2008 at 07:33:01 PM
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Your card could also be taking a dive, those games need a strong gpu to render everything, but also check temps too.

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jtnstnt   05-23-2008 at 02:46:54 AM
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The temps for the Q6600 hover around 50c while playing games and the video card never had problems in xp. I can only stress the Q6600 for about 4 hours because my dad yells at me. How do you measure the real voltage of the rail? Is a multimeter one of the rectangular devices with a knob choosing many different settings.
Thanks for all of the input.

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jtnstnt   05-23-2008 at 02:46:47 AM
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hughyhunter wrote :

No... you are all wrong :D :kaola:
you have no idea how frustrating it is to have your game crash when you have been working on a massacre for hours and are just ready to attack the enemies home base) death!



Its happened to me many times.

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Shadow703793   05-23-2008 at 10:57:32 PM
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jtnstnt wrote :

The temps for the Q6600 hover around 50c while playing games and the video card never had problems in xp. I can only stress the Q6600 for about 4 hours because my dad yells at me. How do you measure the real voltage of the rail? Is a multimeter one of the rectangular devices with a knob choosing many different settings.
Thanks for all of the input.


Yes. A multi-meter can be used to determine rail voltages. Please do be careful and know what you are doing. I do believe it is a PSU issue. If you need to buy a PSU what would be your budget?

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jtnstnt   05-24-2008 at 06:03:57 AM
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I could get any psu, but i would look in the <150 range. 6+2pin pci-express would be nice. Newegg is my only choice for buying parts. I would like to have the psu to work for a couple of years. Long cables to reach the top of the antec 900 would be nice too.


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Shadow703793   05-24-2008 at 06:30:26 PM
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Ok, if budget is ~$150:

 

PP&C 750
PP&C 610
if modular:
Corsair 520/620HX.


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jtnstnt   05-25-2008 at 08:27:54 AM
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817815002
Is this company any good? It has 4x6+2pin pciexpress and is modular. Total 72A on the +12v rail(combined). $129.99

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hughyhunter   05-25-2008 at 05:07:01 PM
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Stick with Shadow's recommendations. Those one's are by far the best in the whole wide world! :)

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Shadow703793   05-25-2008 at 06:44:57 PM
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XIGMATEK Heatsinks are good but their PSUs are cr@p. Stick with what I recommended before. I guess a company can do only a few things right (ie Corsair: RAM+ PSUs, PP&C=PSUs,)

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hughyhunter   05-25-2008 at 08:30:07 PM
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I've had very good experience with PCP&C. I recommend the 610 or 750 watt silencer's.

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jtnstnt   05-25-2008 at 11:14:25 PM
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Is there an easy way to tuck away unused cables in the 900

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hughyhunter   05-26-2008 at 01:11:48 AM
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no... nothing is easy. Check out this thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=126395

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