9600XT out performing X1600 PRO

Hello,

just picked up an ATI X1600 PRO 512 mb AGP cheap on ebay to replace a Rosewill 9600XT 128mb AGP in an old computer but found that the 9600XT out performs the X1600 on 3DMARK03. The 9600 scores 8500 to 8800 while the X1600 scores 7700 to 7900.
FPS on the 9600 are higher in all test than the X1600 as well.

looking at the specs for the two cards, I would have expected the X1600 to do much better.
Can't figure out why it's not.

9600XT
driver- Catalyst 5.6
colling- dual slot aftermarket cooler
core clock- 500 mhz
memory- 128 MB / 128 bit
mem clock- 600 mhz
mem bandwidth- 9.6 GB/sec
shader ops.- 2000 Mops/sec
Pixel fill- 2000 Mpixels/sec
texture fill- 2000 Mtexels/sec
Vertex ops- 250 Mvertices

X1600 PRO
dirver- Catalyst 8.4
cooling- stock
core clock- 500 mhz
memory- 512 MB / 128 bit
mem clock- 800 mhz
mem bandwidth- 12.48 GB/sec
shader ops.- 6000 Mops/sec
Pixel fill- 2000 Mpixels/sec
texture fill- 2000 Mtexels/sec
Vertex ops- 625 Mvertices

is this card not functioning properly?
do I not have it set up right?

mobo- MSI KM2M combo-L
CPU- Atlon XP 1600 (1.42 GHz)
RAM- 1.5 GB PC2100 (266 MHz)
PSU- Chief Max 425W
+3.3v = 26A
+5v = 30A
+12v = 12A
-12v = .8A
-5v = .3A
+5VSB = 2A

I would agree that you don't have enough amps on the 12V rail to really run the GPU you have. If you get the Antec Earthwatts 380w PSU or similar quality PSU you'll be fine. It goes for about $30-50 depending on the time of the month or specials that it has from time to time. It has 27A on the 12V rails and will be plenty for your setup. You can get more, if you like, and use the new PSU in a newer build later. It's up to you.

I kinda figured that.
guess I'll get a PSU and swap that aftermarket cooler form the 9600

Thanks.

^Agreed.

Which case/PSU combo did you buy? Sounds like your problems with your one system might be mobo related or maybe a BIOS issue, not sure there, just shooting from the hip on it, since I don't have more details

Post a benchmark of both.

As a Radeon 9600Pro owner whose pro OC'ed well above your XT's speeds I don't believe your results on an Athlon 1600.

I think you're comparing 2 completely different benchmarking tools like 3Dmk01 to 3Dmk03 it sounds like; or else your 3Dmark is busted, because there's no way you're breaking 8K on an Radeon 9600XT on that Athlon.

Here's my last one from way back and clocked higher than yours (and that 1GB of PC2100 ain't making up 4000 Bunghliomarks espcially on the VPU-centric 3Dmk03);
http://service.futuremark.com/home [...] ultType=10

GrapeApe,

You're right. Those results were from th 01 version not the 03 version.
I appologize.

I downloaded the free version of 03. The X1600 benchmarked just above 2400. Have run the 9600 yet.
seems low to me

Nice work Ape