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Hi,

Just a quick question regarding 8800gt's 3mark06 score....

I know that i need certain good pc specs in order to get good results but....

do the below specs justify the score of 2958 that im getting in 3dmark06...

Shuttle ST20G5 barebone system
Athlon64 3800+ 939
2x512 mb Ballistix on Dual-Ch
Sparkle 8800GT 512mb
74GB W Raptor
Plain 450W power supply

I did expect a low score but not that low....

Thanks

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Nope, something's wrong. Did you update driver? Or forget to plug in pcie power connector?

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Reply to dagger
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I installed the latest drivers from nvidia's site...
The pcie power con is also in place...

I used to have an ATI x800gt 256mb ddr3 before getting the 8800gt...

Reply to tuks_7
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tuks_7 wrote :

I installed the latest drivers from nvidia's site...
The pcie power con is also in place...

 

I used to have an ATI x800gt 256mb ddr3 before getting the 8800gt...


Maybe the old ati driver wasn't cleared out properly. Try this:
http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=driversweeper

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Reply to dagger
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still the same...

I even lags at certain points while watching an 720p hd movie...

Reply to tuks_7
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What was your score with the old card?

Reply to Jim_L9
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i never tested the old card with 3mark06 because it was taking too long...

though with 3dmark05 it was about 3000, maybe a few points less.

Reply to tuks_7
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well its a bit better know... new score at 6451 on 3dmark06.

Still do my system specs really hurt that much the score im getting above?

Or could it still be something else?

Reply to tuks_7
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A score of 6451 on 3DMark06 isn't that bad with your old machine. The video card surely helps, but there's only so much it can do. You might do better by running 2 gig of ram, but can't say for certain. Also, you don't mention if the CPU is overclocked or not. If that 3800+ 939 is running at stock speed, its definitely slowing the machine down and affecting you score.

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Athlon64 3800+ stock at 2.41Ghz
2x512mb DDR400 CL2 Ballistix on Dual-Ch

Well thats what i thought...

I was just comparing my scores/specs with a pc i put together for a friend that managed a 12000+ score (E8400, 2x1GB DDR800 CL4 Ballistix, 8800GT 512)...

Reply to tuks_7

with a 7950gt at stock clocks on an x2 6000+ with 2gb of ram i get about 5200 on 3dmark 06.

your processor is what hurts your score, as well as the single gig of ram.

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Reply to firetatoo
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That is definitely on the low side with that card. It might be a lack of power. Have you had any freezes or reboots? I would use a program to make sure you have removed all remains of the previous driver. You might try a better PSU if you have a friend that you can borrow one from to see if that is the issue.

Reply to cisco

-Your CPU will probably hold that card back a little on certain things
-Your 1GB of memory might hold certain apps back as well, current games especially
-You say "plain 450W PSU" what is "plain" and what specs does the "plain" brand have marked on the unit? Specifically the 12V rails and Amps they can handle.

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Reply to jay2tall
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no freezes or reboots... and i removed all previous drivers... so only thing left is the last thing you mentioned cisco.

Reply to tuks_7
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Also make sure you have your graphics card plugged to the PSU and its not powered only by the PCI-E slot.
I know it sounds dumb, but I've heard of people not making that connection (by mistake) and still being able of using the graphics card but with much lower performance. Some motherboards have an aditional 4 pin power slot for powering the PCI-E 16X, make sure yours isn't one of those.


Message edited by rojito on 05-07-2008 at 06:27:42 PM
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By plain i meant an unpopular cheap brand. I used this psu as i didnt want to hurt my system with the 240w already installed on the shuttle.

well the specs for it are: +3.3V 25A, +5V 35A, +12V 18A...

Reply to tuks_7

So it has a single 12V rail rated at 18a? That is a problem right there. It could not be getting enough juice and could potential damage other components. I believe yo uneed 26A for the GT but not 100% sure on that.

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Reply to jay2tall
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Thats what i thought at the begging, maybe a bad connection between some power cables but everything seemed alright all 5 times that i checked...

Reply to tuks_7
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To be honest with you jay2tall i dont like it either that i am using this psu and i knew that it would have some effect if not a lot towards the bad score but at the moment i cannot afford a new psu.

Plus i have heard people having good scores with the default 240W shuttle psu along with a stable system. So i somehow thought that i would not be that much of a problem but as it seems i was mistaken....

Reply to tuks_7

Is that the single core 3800 ?

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Reply to mousemonkey
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Yes a single Newcastle core...

Reply to tuks_7
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Single core and not enough juice is your problem.
Absolute minimum for the GT is 22 solid amps.


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Just tried to play with rivatuner a bit and to my suprize when i tried 3dmark again the original problem came to life... "Low frames and bad score"....

Well i'll give it a try and change the psu asap...

Reply to tuks_7

It's not so much your PSU more so your CPU thats holding things back, I was using a dual core 3800 and that couldn't keep up so I can only pity the stress that a single core is under.

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Reply to mousemonkey
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save a little and buy yourself a good psu. Your system will run much better too :))

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