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Opening NAT - 3c857

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November 28, 2008 12:20:35 AM

Hello,

I have this 3com 3c857 router, which i want to open the NAT so i can play on xbox live..

I searched everywhere and did find nothing.

Can anybody show me a tutorial on doing this?

Thank you very much.

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June 13, 2009 9:48:17 PM

Can anybody help me with this?

Thank you.
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June 14, 2009 8:05:29 PM

I did not find the section 6, your link redirects me to a google page.
And my IPs are: 192.168.1.216 (PC) and 192.168.1.215 (Xbox 360) - NAT Moderate.

Thank you.
June 14, 2009 11:46:48 PM

Ok, i read the manual and there is nothing about NAT configuration or so.

I manually configurated the PC IP as 192.168.1.216 and the Xbox360 IP as 192.168.1.215. There is no support for UPnP in this router so now I don't know what to do.

Do you know how to get the NAT open?
Thanks.
June 15, 2009 12:05:18 AM

It certainly is a very basic router, but why do you need UPnP?

Look at Figure 11. Is how you have it setup? What's the IP address of the router? If you use static IP addresses instead of DHCP, then you have to specify the default gateway, i.e., the router IP address (by default it is 192.168.1.1).

Your router does NAT automatically; otherwise you wouldn't be able to access the Internet with a static or dynamic IP address that isn't routable (192.168.x.x). Therefore you can't enable or disable NAT since it's always enabled.
June 15, 2009 5:27:39 PM

Cable (Static:10.50.x.x) > Router (192.168.1.1)> PC (Tried both, not satisfyed - Manual -192.168.1.216 or Auto - 192.168.1.216) > Xbox360 (Tried both - Auto/Manual 192.168.1.215). On the xbox, when I test the conection, it says: You have a problem with the connection: NAT Moderate.

UPnP I don't even know what it is, but on the xbox, it says as a tip to enable UPnP in order to open NAT.
June 15, 2009 6:52:24 PM

Let's say that cable static IP address is 10.50.1.2. What IP address did you use on the WAN port of your router? It should be 10.50.1.2 and it's LAN address is 192.168.1.1. UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) just makes it easier for devices to communicate, but it isn't required if the router is configured correctly (and it wouldn't help is it isn't).
June 15, 2009 9:12:08 PM

But it is set that way, otherwise i wouldn't even be able to connect to the internet.
It is WAN>10.50.x.x
LAN1 (PC)> 192.168.1.216
LAN2 (Xbox360)> 192.168.1.215
June 16, 2009 1:25:00 AM

If you can access the Internet and the Xbox doesn't work properly, then you need to set port forwarding for the following to 182.168.1.215:

* TCP 80
* UDP 88
* UDP 3074
* TCP 3074
* UDP 53
* TCP 53

UPnP would do that for you, but your router doesn't have that feature. Does it at least support port forwarding?
June 16, 2009 3:53:14 AM

Don't use the DMZ. In the Virtual Server section, the DMZ is set to 192.168.1.0 which basically denies access.

As per the instructions, click New.

Server IP address: 192.168.1.215 (Xbox)
Local Service: - Custom -
Custom Service Name: Xbox (or whatever you want)
Specify Custom Service Ports: 88,3074 (and you might need to also add 53)

Is this what you've done?
June 16, 2009 4:50:09 PM

Yes, I did that.
There's no how to specify if its a UDP or TCP port, but i enabled 53,88 and 3074. No success. Oh, there's no success either if I disable the router's firewall, does that mean something?
Should I enable PING in the router?
There's a Special Application option in the router, which asks me the trigger and the incoming ports, I don't know if that's useful.
And, right now, it says on my xbox that my MTU should be at least 1364, and I'm below that..
June 16, 2009 4:58:59 PM

You can enable ping on the router. Your problems have to be with port redirection.

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There's a Special Application option in the router, which asks me the trigger and the incoming ports
You lose nothing using it to configure port forwarding.

Why is your MTU that low? It should normally be between 1450 and 1500 (only if you don't use PPPoE).
June 16, 2009 5:10:30 PM

What does "PING over the internet" do? What is it?
I think my MTU was that low because Xbox Live is currently at maintenance, I'll wait for the xbox live to get back online and see if it's ok.

The thing is, I don't know what are the incoming and the triggering ports.
June 16, 2009 5:49:31 PM

Quote:
What does "PING over the internet" do? What is it?
It allows to detect the availability of hosts. If I can ping a host and get a reply, then I know that host exists and that it should be live.

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The thing is, I don't know what are the incoming and the triggering ports.
They should be the ones that are specified for the Xbox (53,88,3074).
June 16, 2009 5:59:00 PM

But which do I put in the trigger port line?
And the incoming line?
They cannot be repeated.
June 16, 2009 9:23:47 PM

Add each required port and forward it to the Xbox.

Example from my Netgear router configuration screen:

Service Name Xbox_88
Service Type UDP
Starting Port (1~65534) 88
Ending Port (1~65534) 88
Server IP Address 192.168.1.215

Service Name Xbox_3074
Service Type TCP/UDP
Starting Port (1~65534) 3074
Ending Port (1~65534) 3074
Server IP Address 192.168.1.215

Service name can be anything you want, at least on my routers. Apparently that's all that's required (port 88 UDP and 3074 TCP/UDP). The above configuration assumes that your Xbox has static IP address 192.168.1.215. You might need to make configuration modifications on the Xbox (my knowledge of the Xbox is nil).
June 16, 2009 10:32:05 PM

Ok, the xbox live is at maintenance right now, so I'll reply again only tomorrow, when the service is back online.

As for the configurations, on my router, you cannot select TCP or UDP (don't think it'll be a problem).
And, with this configurations on, I'll have to delete my Virtual Server, because I cannot type a port on the virtual server and the same one in authorised applications. But I'll test them both tomorrow (have not tested yet the ports 53,88,3074 with DMZ off).

And, just to add, on the Xbox, the only thing you can configurate is the basic: IP, mask, gateway and DNS.

I'll be back tomorrow.

Thank you very much for the help.
June 17, 2009 9:06:32 PM

Ok, just tried it and.. no, it does not work !

As I said, not even disabling the router't firewall can make my NAT open. Shouldn't that mean something? Maybe it's not a router problem, I don't know..

Any other suggestions?
June 17, 2009 9:27:28 PM

You could get a router that's on the Xbox compatibility list (UPnP, etc.) That should be easier to setup.
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