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Hey guys first off I want to let you guys know something that I tried and worked for me. When I was trying different settings to OC my CPU higher than 3.0GHz and my BIOS failed and had to recover it using the Asus CD, because it had a block BIOS thing. That took me to a really old version of BIOS, so I decided to BIOS update my motherboard to the newer one where the update failed, and I wasn't able to do anything. Like the computer would turn on and then just black screen. So what I did was took a BIOS chip from another computer put it into my motherboard then turn the computer on and then turn it back off and put my old BIOS chip in, which was messed up and it fixed it!!! Just wanted to let you guys know it works because I searched so hard over the net and couldn't find a solution that states it that way and was about to get another BIOS chip from Asus.

OK, lets start with my OC question, first of my specs:

Asus P5W DH-Deluxe Motherboard
Intel Core2Duo E6600 currently at 3.0GHz with Vcore 1.3000v
4GB of OCZ Reaper Edition RAM
Zotac 9800 GTX Graphics card

now currently I tried these settings that got me to the point where the windows loading thing will come up and then just give me blue screen and restart, here are the settings:

Vcore = 1.5250v (I can choose up to 1.7000v in BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage = 1.30 (Options in BIOS: 1.20, 1.30, 1.40, and 1.50)
MCH Chipset Voltage = 1.65 (Options in BIOS: 1.55, 1.65, 1.75, and 1.85)
ICH Chipset Voltage = 1.05 (Options in BIOS: 1.05 and 1.20)

I used those settings and got my processor to post at 3.60GHz, but like I said above it can only get up to the loading bars then blue screen and restarts, can anyone tell me if I need to give it more Vcore voltage or need to change the other voltages.

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I guess no one knows the answer. All I wanted to know is if my Northbridge volts are too high or they are fine, and if I should try upping my vcore more or not.

Reply to gotrice

OK, what was the highest STABLE (orthos/prime) OC you have had with this set-up????

What settings did you use?????

What Ram are you using (667-800-1066) ????

Reply to RJR

Alright, with 1.300v vcore 3.0GHz that I have right now I ran 8 hours straight without any problem also I only changed vcore nothing else, but with taking it to 3.6ghz vcore at 1.525v it doesn't go ne farther than the vista loading bars. I was guessing I need to give it more vcore but not sure if thats safe or not. Also I got pc26400 800mhz.

Reply to gotrice

I think it's because your RAM is overclocked beyond the limit. Have you adjusted your RAM speeds yet?

Remember when you overclock thru the FSB, you will also overclock your RAM, as it's also related to it.

Try to get CPU-Z and post screenshots of it here so we can see if there's something wrong like overclocking your RAM beyond specs.


Message edited by stridervm on 01-19-2009 at 01:24:32 PM
Reply to stridervm

The thing is when I'm using 9x400 = 3600 the RAM is at 800MHz which is right at the specs. I know when I OC the FSB the RAM also OC that's why I make sure to change the RAM settings to stay in or under specs. I think I might of put this a little wrong which makes it sound wrong.

I have my E6600 @ 3.0GHz stable with vCore 1.3000v. The thing is when I go 3.6GHz using these settings:

Quote :

Vcore = 1.5250v (I can choose up to 1.7000v in BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage = 1.30 (Options in BIOS: 1.20, 1.30, 1.40, and 1.50)
MCH Chipset Voltage = 1.65 (Options in BIOS: 1.55, 1.65, 1.75, and 1.85)
ICH Chipset Voltage = 1.05 (Options in BIOS: 1.05 and 1.20)


That is when I'm having trouble getting it to load to windows, if I'm not wrong I think the better way would be to lower the MCH Volt. back to 1.55 and raising the vcore from 1.525 to 1.6v. What you guys think? I just don't wanna raise the Vcore by a lot if there is any other way to make it work at 1.525v.

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Message edited by gotrice on 01-19-2009 at 02:00:42 PM
Reply to gotrice

WAY wrong way to do things: 3.0 - 3.6 Ghz.

Small increases and only up voltages when needed will tell you exactly what is going on and what needs to be increased. Making big jumps like that is just a crap shoot.

Take a little time and bring it up slowly and youll know whats going on.

Reply to RJR

What kind of heatsink do you have? If you are going to try to push an E6600 to 3.6 GHz., you need a good HSF.

You also need to pay attention to the airflow in your case.

And RJR is correct. A jump from 2.4 GHz. straight to 3.0 GHz. is safe with an E6600. You may even be able to do it without increasing vcore. After 3.0 GHz., stay with no more than 100 KHz. steps.

And not all E6600's will run at 3.6 GHz. with stability.

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Reply to jsc

gotrice wrote :

The thing is when I'm using 9x400 = 3600 the RAM is at 800MHz which is right at the specs. I know when I OC the FSB the RAM also OC that's why I make sure to change the RAM settings to stay in or under specs. I think I might of put this a little wrong which makes it sound wrong.

I have my E6600 @ 3.0GHz stable with vCore 1.3000v. The thing is when I go 3.6GHz using these settings:

Quote :

Vcore = 1.5250v (I can choose up to 1.7000v in BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage = 1.30 (Options in BIOS: 1.20, 1.30, 1.40, and 1.50)
MCH Chipset Voltage = 1.65 (Options in BIOS: 1.55, 1.65, 1.75, and 1.85)
ICH Chipset Voltage = 1.05 (Options in BIOS: 1.05 and 1.20)


That is when I'm having trouble getting it to load to windows, if I'm not wrong I think the better way would be to lower the MCH Volt. back to 1.55 and raising the vcore from 1.525 to 1.6v. What you guys think? I just don't wanna raise the Vcore by a lot if there is any other way to make it work at 1.525v.



call me conservative, but i think you should take your chip down to 3.2ghz, and if you want, work your way up. the voltages for your chip is only recommended up to 1.5v, taking it to 1.6v is just nuts imo. you also have to remember, the voltage increases in relation to speed, is EXPONENTIAL, not linear. the higher you want to take your chip, be prepared to crank more juice into it. i agree w/the poster above, you don't just take 3.0->3.6. work your way up to 3.2->3.4 or so...you better have some good cooling in your case if you're gonna take your MCH voltage up higher...if it gets too hot, you might run into some MCH probs such as not being able to load into windows b/c temps are too high.

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Reply to aznguy0028

Thanks for the feedback though what kind of HS would be best on air cooling for me to take this to 3.6, right now I have Big Typhoon V1.

Reply to gotrice

Which one would be better Sunbeam Core Contact Freeze or Xigmatek HDT-S1283?

Reply to gotrice

The Xigmatek has be known to work exceptionally well, not sure about the Sunbeam though.

Reply to Lucuis

I agree with stridervm,

I think it something to do with your RAM.

Try loosening your timings a little,this worked for me.

I have :GA X48T DQ6
4GB DDR3 OCZ Flex XLC 1600mhz
QX9770 3.2Ghz @ 4.3Ghz
Custom water cooling.....

But i could not for the life of me get it to run stable with all 4GB of RAM installed at the recommended timings.

Mine should run @ 6-6-6-18@1.9v

I have to run them @ 8-8-8-24@1.824v.

For me it worked like a charm.

I hope this helps.

Reply to QuadPimp

Thanks I'll try that and write back as soon as I get the chance.

Reply to gotrice

Guys, I finally got it to 3.6GHz with 1:1 ratio though had to feed her 1.6 volts.

Here is a screenshot:

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Reply to gotrice

Just make sure you keep an eye on your temps with that voltage.

Reply to QuadPimp

Just so you know, at that voltage, don't expect the processor to last long. Due to much accelerated electro-migration, because of the high voltage, it'll die a premature death even if kept cool.

Reply to Lucuis

Can you post a screenshot of the memory and SPD settings thru CPU-Z as well?

Reply to stridervm

Lucuis does 3.4GHz @ 1.385v sounds better?

Reply to gotrice

1.6 volts is too high. 3.4GHz @ 1.385v is great.

Reply to jsc

Ye, I figured I should keep it at 3.0GHz @ 1.385 because someone told me there is not big real life difference notice between 3.4 and 3.6GHz. Thanks for all your help guys :).


Message edited by gotrice on 01-22-2009 at 08:23:25 AM
Reply to gotrice

gotrice wrote :

Lucuis does 3.4GHz @ 1.385v sounds better?



Much better, anything below 1.5v is ok, as long as heat isn't an issue. I prefer to stay below 1.4v, i'm currently running 3.2ghz 8xmulti at 1.33v idle on a Q6600.

Reply to Lucuis

Ye, I'm keeping it at 3.4GHz maybe later change it to 3.5GHz before I get my i7.


Message edited by gotrice on 01-24-2009 at 01:36:35 AM
Reply to gotrice

try this gotrice increase your Noth Bridge and south bridge voltages with the chipset to the next voltage then try 3.4GHz-3.6GHz.

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Reply to blackpanther26

Alright, I'll try that when I wake up tomorrow. Right now I have NB & SB voltages on the lowest settings.

Reply to gotrice
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