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April 27, 2008 5:53:52 AM

hi guys, ive just registered here to ask your opinion on a new build i am going to do and to see if i have got anything glareingly wrong.

im building this on a students budget, so there is no leeway what so ever, i have £390 to spend and need it to be able to play games like supreme commander, age of conan, Orange box ect. all items are on www.ebuyer.co.uk

Case : Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Case With CM eXtreme Power 460W PSU *SPECIAL OFFER* £42.99

MoBo : Gigabyte GA M57SLI-S4 SKT AM2 Nvidia MCP55P PCI-E 8Channel audio ATX £54.04

CPU : AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (3GHz) Socket AM2 L2 2MB (2 x 1MB) Cache OEM Processor £77.99

Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 All-in-one Processor Cooler for Intel LGA775, AMD AM2, 754, 939, 940 £19.99

RAM : OCZ 2GB Kit (2X1GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Memory CL4 Unbuffered 2.1V Reaper HPC Edition £39.99

HDD : Western Digital WD1600AAJS 160GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 8MB Cache - OEM £30.93

GFX : Point Of View 8800GT 512MB GDDR3 256bit Dual DVI PCI-E Graphics Card £119.98

paste : Arctic Silver Ceramique 2.5g tube £2.48

all in all it comes to £388.39 with delivery

most obvious question is will that PSU be enough juice for the 8800

then is everything compatible

and finally are there any products in the list that are known bad eggs?

thanks in advance, waiting eagerly for your replies

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April 27, 2008 1:17:39 PM

If the cpu isn't overclocked, AMD is the best bang.

If possible, use the stock cooler. If you want, get a better one like Freezer or xigmatek hdt-s1283.

Forget the old Arctice Silver. Look for Arctic Cooling MX-2 which is cooler & non-conductive.

Yes, the PSU is enough, but I wouldn't recommend that. Get a tier 1/2/3 450-500W:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:65Oi9JaLirUJ:www.x...
April 27, 2008 1:26:19 PM

if your on a buget then spending money on thermal paste when your cooler come with it seem none sensical.

i prefer scan.co.uk, everything come out cheaper.

i would also 'suggest' that you get a Intel system.

CoolerMaster Centurion 5 Silver
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...

500w Seasonic S12II-500 PSU
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...

2GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...

250 GB Western Digital WD2500AAJS
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...

Coolermaster Hyper TX 2
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...

512MB PNY 8800GT PCI-E 2.0
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...

Gigabyte GA-P31-S3G
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...

Intel Core 2 Duo E4500
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...
roughtly same price as the 6000

Toal is:
£397.14 <- THIS IS INCLUDING P&P.

you could save more money buy getting a 160Gb HDD.

i think this would be a better system, hope you consider it.
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April 27, 2008 1:27:27 PM

i forgot to mention, this will OC well ^^ above the speed of the 6000
April 27, 2008 1:32:29 PM

you are lucky that im here.i just built 1 of these not long ago.



this will allow you to oc to 3.2ghz without a problem.

save on delivery.the extra isnt worth it.sometimes you pick the free delivery they will deliver the day after or 2.but of course leave upto 5 days though.

about the thermal paste.its your choice.
April 27, 2008 1:37:15 PM

dobby no over £390!!!ebuyer is cheaper by the way.
April 27, 2008 1:58:44 PM

scan > ebuyer
from experience, having to RMA loads of stuff to both
April 27, 2008 3:04:16 PM

thanks for the replys guys, i have never been into overclocking, as the only time i tried it (on my current system) it made it so unstable that i couldnt have it running for more then 10 minutes without it crashing on me, though admitedly i dont know what im doing in that department, so assuming i dont overclock the new system, i went for raw power / price instead of looking into overclockablility and a 1.8Ghz > 3.2 Ghz overclock sounds a bit dangerous to me, though as i said i know next to zero about overclocking, but both systems you have posted seem very nice too
April 27, 2008 5:16:23 PM

i never experience any RMA problem with ebuyer.and ebuyer will send someone to pick up your faulty item.does scan so that?scan offers more computer parts no doubt.BUT!the cheapest is still ebuyer iun general.i mean you can compare prices.i did it before i posted.so you know.

overclock is not hard as it seems.what CPU you got now?AMD 1 i guess since the poor overclockability you mentioned.
April 27, 2008 5:22:50 PM

no i have a P4 3.0Ghz with 1Gb 400mhz RAM, X800 graphics card crappy replacement board from when i OCed my old gigabyte, shortly after the board died and i got this replacement, which is an abit something or other (£20 rapid replacement), it is just something i have not been interested in as when i build a pc, i like it to last a good 4 years + and would rather keep the speeds lower and increase the life of the componants, as my PCs normally get donated to family members after i have had my way with them lol
Anonymous
April 27, 2008 5:53:55 PM

hi, i just quickly scanned though what you want, what people told you to get and the prices and you might be able to grab a bargain off ebay. no, i dont work for them, i bought 2x2gb ram off there for £21 + £8 p+p, still cheap
a great case with LEDs and 450w PSU for £20, cheap as 450w psu's can be £15 -£20,
250gb Western Digital Hard Drive for £25, you and other guys looking at less gb or more £
these were all buy it nows, so you know what you paying and all but 2 things were brand new, the second hand stuff was great.

im not saying get it all off there but i built myself a whole pc for £140 (£180 inc p+p)
Anonymous
April 27, 2008 6:02:42 PM

what i was meant to say at the end was, you got the twice the budget i had so you could definitely build a better machine then mine.
this is what i did for the £140
MB - Geforce6100PM-M2, micro ATX, 64-bit, AM2+
Processer - Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4200+, AM2 with heatsink and fan
Graphics Card - 1GB Geforce 8400 256mb
RAM - 2x 2gb PC2-4300 533mhz DDR2
HDD - 250gb Western Digital SATA
Case - Galaxy ATX Tower with 450w PSU
oh and an extra, quiet case fan for £4
April 27, 2008 6:55:53 PM

Quote:
hi, i just quickly scanned though what you want, what people told you to get and the prices and you might be able to grab a bargain off ebay. no, i dont work for them, i bought 2x2gb ram off there for £21 + £8 p+p, still cheap
a great case with LEDs and 450w PSU for £20, cheap as 450w psu's can be £15 -£20,
250gb Western Digital Hard Drive for £25, you and other guys looking at less gb or more £
these were all buy it nows, so you know what you paying and all but 2 things were brand new, the second hand stuff was great.

im not saying get it all off there but i built myself a whole pc for £140 (£180 inc p+p)


in computer stuffs that are used are more risky especially HDD.from ebay you dont get any sort of warranty.even on the lsiting it says but maufacturer wouldnt cover you as you are not the rightful owner of the product.its better to get a brand new parts.case wise its ok.but others i dont recommend.and that include CPU/Mobo/Ram as thouse wear off through time.

even though i sell on ebay as well.but to be honest people dont expect them to be new even if it says it new.so they pay lower price then made the seller sale old staff since they are not getting more money for selling new parts.

think twice.
Anonymous
April 27, 2008 9:37:16 PM

i did say not to get it all off there but i understand your point.
but when a 250gb hdd costs £25 its a chance you could take as its not hard to replace. (ebay has a buyer protection program / fraud department thats sorts stuff out like faulty goods (i know, girlfriends account was hacked into and dodgy stuff sold on her account, ebay and paypal got involved and sorted all out))

anyways to the point in hand, adders666, look around, you might find a bargain, even on ebay :) 
April 28, 2008 1:25:15 AM

after looking around on ebay, i think there are some execellent bargins on there, though i have had some dodgy purchases from ebay in the past, and also a lot of hassles, so i for one wont buy anything from ebay that means an aweful lot to me, like my comp lol, but i appreciate the suggestion and did take a peek on there, i recieved a letter today stating that i have a further £250 in grant money coming \o/ so that gives me £640 to play around with now :D  with out the need of a new monitor (just bought a 22" widescreen one from a catalog :D ) or mouse and keyboard i will be able to build myself a much nicer rig then i thought i would have been able to. so i think i will post a new thread with suggestions for what to spend it on for the best bang for buck :)  thanks for replys guys you have been a great help
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