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May 10, 2008 1:48:13 AM

Here's the deal. I have an 8600gts at the moment. It was upgraded from a 7900gt when the 7900 died. The short of it is the 8600gts is a piece of **** and it's time to upgrade.

Question 1: Get an evga 9800GTX now and maybe step up later or wait for something else?

Question 2: I have my 8600 in a watercooling loop with a MAZE4 block and a couple of ramsinks. Should I go for a full coverage block when I upgrade or keep the gpu only block/ramsinks? I'd rather not spend $130 on such a specific block but I hope to be able to oc the balls off the card.


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May 10, 2008 2:56:25 AM

I think the 9800GTX is good choice.
Use the step up program to get something better later.
BTW, the watercooling thing...???
I think cooler of 9800GTX is good enough already.
May 10, 2008 3:15:30 AM

The stock cooler is probably good enough but I already have a spot in the wc loop for a graphics card. To just use the stock cooler would be a waste of the extra radiator and waterblock I already have on my 8600.
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May 10, 2008 3:21:12 AM

Hmm, I know nothing about liquid cooling.
Somebody else come here and solve the question 2.
a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2008 3:27:34 AM

System specs?

If you are in the USA, I'd just go with a single 8800GTS 512MB and save some serious cash. 9800GTX is overpriced here.

BTW, In new games like UT3, COD4, Crysis, and Oblivion, that 8600GTS should have been better than the 7900GT. Too bad they didn't give you an 8800GS or 9600GT though.
May 10, 2008 3:34:30 AM

"Little advantage over Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS 512MB doesn’t justify the price difference;"

Yeah, save some money and buy the 8800GTS 512
May 10, 2008 3:34:59 AM

In the US, yes.

Specs in the sig:

CM Stacker 830 | ASUS M2N-32-SLI Deluxe
AMD X2 Brisbane 3600+ at 3.2 GHz
2x1Gb Corsair DDR2 800 4-4-4-12
eVGA 8600GTS at 775/1090 | 2x WD 250GB


I was going to go with the GTX because theres a deal for 269USD shipped and I wanted to jump on it before it goes back up.

And every benchmark I've seen puts the 8600gts behind the 7900gt. There wasn't much of a noticeable difference 6 months ago when they sent the gts back but now it's starting to show its age.


Good replies, keep 'em coming!
a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2008 2:09:40 PM

APieceOfCheese said:
In the US, yes.

Specs in the sig:

CM Stacker 830 | ASUS M2N-32-SLI Deluxe
AMD X2 Brisbane 3600+ at 3.2 GHz
2x1Gb Corsair DDR2 800 4-4-4-12
eVGA 8600GTS at 775/1090 | 2x WD 250GB


I was going to go with the GTX because theres a deal for 269USD shipped and I wanted to jump on it before it goes back up.

And every benchmark I've seen puts the 8600gts behind the 7900gt. There wasn't much of a noticeable difference 6 months ago when they sent the gts back but now it's starting to show its age.


Good replies, keep 'em coming!


LOL, missed the sig, was it there then?

GTX for that price is a great option, especially for higher res with fsaa. I still like the Sub $200 AR G92 GTS though.


(Going OT, but just for info/explanation) -
As far as the 7900GT > 8600GTS, that's only older games. They are often quite close, but In many newer games the 8600GTS and even HD2600XT beat a 7900GT no problem. The GF7's have a serious shader weakness for current/future games. Have a look:

Crysis - is close comparing 512MB version, I've seen the 7900GS 256MB get blown out though somewhere:
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=698&p=2

UT3 - is a blowout: just look vs 7900GTX and 7950GT even(first link) 512MB 7900GT (second link)
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3128&p=4
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=693&p=5

COD4 - 7900GT falls way behinds it's typical equal (but shader advantaged) X1950 pro which is bout = 8600GTS. 8600GTS way better than 7900GS.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/call_of_duty_4_demo...
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_rv670_performan...
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_9600...

And you have to add up some charts again to see Oblivion and COD4 are similar. 8600GTS does pretty well in both games like the X1950 pro, but the 7900GT (GF 7 series) fall behind it's peers.
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_c...
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/oblivion_high-end_p...
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8600...

Anyway, if I had to choose between an 8600GTS or 7900GT to game on now, I'd go for the 8600GTS without question. Old games the 7900GT may have an advantage, but both do well. Some new games, the 7900GT really struggles. And they happen to be games I play and have seen my 7800GT CO do horrible in. If you play UT3, COD4, Crysis, Oblivion, and Need for Speeds(Carbon, Pro Street anyway), the 8600GTS is the better of the two. But it's still half an 8800GS/9600GT.

May 10, 2008 2:29:41 PM

So, I bit the bullet and bought the 9800gtx for $269. I have the entire weekend to cancel the order if I change my mind. I'm still not sure what to do about the waterblock. I don't even know if the MAZE4 block will fit newer cards. It's an older version that was made for the 7 series cards.
a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2008 2:49:51 PM

Well, there's a step up for you. :)  Enjoy.
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