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Which of these cards is the more future-proof card?
8800GS(9600GSO)?
(96SP,192-bitBW,768VRam,48texture units,12ROP...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gefor [...] al_summary
Or the 9600GT?
(64SP,256-bitBW,512VRam,32texture units,16ROP...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gefor [...] ifications
Okay, 64Stream processors, enough for 2 years ahead?
192-bit bandwidth. enough for 2 years ahead?
What about others? Which is more FUTURE-PROOF.
Technology-wise they have the same stuffs. Don't they?


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Never heard of a 768MB 9600GT.  
 
The 768MB 9600GSO is a rebranded 8800GS.  I would say if anything,  the 768MB 8800GS would possible outlast a 512MB 9600GT.   But more likely,  I expect  about the same life out of the two.  
 


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Sorry, typo mistake, it's 512mb.
I corrected it already.
What's the thing in these card that'll give the upper hand?
SPs? Bandwidth? Vram?ROPs, TMU,....dadada.....


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romulus47plus1 wrote :

Sorry, typo mistake, it's 512mb.
I corrected it already.
What's the thing in these card that'll give the upper hand?
SPs? Bandwidth? Vram?ROPs, TMU,....dadada.....


They're about the same, with 9600gt slightly faster. They are both barely okay for serious gaming right now, but there is no way they'll last 2 years. Those are mid level budget gaming cards, not high end cards. High end cards are at least 800s (8800/9800) and up, not 600s(8600/9600) of each generation.


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At lower resolutions my vote goes to 8800gs.  
 
9600gt is better if you want AA at higher resolutions but it will get slower than 8800gs as games use more complex shader.


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K, I think the 768Vram of the 8800GS helped here


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romulus47plus1 wrote :

K, I think the 768Vram of the 8800GS helped here


 
The only game that eats up more than 384 megs of vram are.....
 
Crysis @ 1920x1200 high settings and WIC @ 1600x1200 and above especially with AA.
 
You won't notice whole lot of difference between 768mb model and the 384mb model in most of the games today except for those 2 games, not that 8800gs has enough umph to play crysis @ 1920x1200.  768mb model is faster because it's clocked higher in those tests.


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http://en.expreview.com/2008/05/09 [...] k-edition/
Look at the 9600GSO,
"equipped with 6 Samsung 32*32 memory module, make it 768MB totally."
Samsung memory module. Better than the previous ones?


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There's 2 versions of 8800gs.  One is 550/1375/1600.  The other is 650/1625/1800.  Seems like Galaxy is the higher clocked version with bigger memory module.  Couldn't tell you if it's better than the previous one because 768mb models do not exist in the market.  At least not in USA.


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We got it here, =D


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romulus47plus1 wrote :

K, I think the 768Vram of the 8800GS helped here


 
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/02 [...] p/?page=13
 
That huge data sum up chart will show you 384MB vs 768MB.  BUT, the clock speeds are totally different, which hurts comparisons.  The (cheap in the USA) evga 8800GS 384MB superclock at 680/1900 is higher clocked than both and I'd wager would have beat the 768MB version in the majority of their tests.  In this review, Crysis and WIC look like the only games with AA that the 768MB pulled ahead by more than it's clock speed advantage.  I know from my own testing, the 384MB 8800GS hit's a wall at 1600x1200 4xaa/16xaf in Crysis and to some extent Test Drive Unlimited and Oblivion.


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There's 2 versions of 8800gs.  One is 550/1375/1600.  The other is 650/1625/1800.  Seems like Galaxy is the higher clocked version with bigger memory module.  Couldn't tell you if it's better than the previous one because 768mb models do not exist in the market.  At least not in USA.


There are more than two variations of the 384MB anyway.  Newegg alone, all 4 cards differed in clocks listed below.  Reference (if there is one) seems to be 550/1600 as more than one brand uses those exact clocks.
 
XFX 580/1400
XFX 680/1600
evga 550/1600
evga 650/1900
 
edit: Not sure about 768MB versions.

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pauldh wrote :

There are more than two variations of the 384MB anyway.  Newegg alone, all 4 cards differed in clocks listed below.  Reference (if there is one) seems to be 550/1600 as more than one brand uses those exact clocks.

 

XFX 580/1400
XFX 680/1600
evga 550/1600
evga 650/1900

 

edit: Not sure about 768MB versions.


Just buy the cheapest stock card. Factory oc is the same as do-it-yourself oc. :p


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None of them are enough to future-proof a gaming PC, they are lower midrange gaming cards right now as is.  
A 8800GTS G92 would be my bottom end pick.

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Just buy the cheapest stock card. Factory oc is the same as do-it-yourself oc. :p


True, if priced apart I agree with that.  Except in the USA, the evga supeclock is $5-12 more than the slowest XFX, comes with a better cooler, and I believe faster ram chips.  I can't see buying any other GS right now here in the states. If evga's 550/1600 card was $99 AR shipped, then it would be fine as they seem to be identical to the SC that is $111 shipped AR.
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If you payed attention to the recent video card industry shader performance dictates longevity.

 

pixel and texel performance with a combination of memory bandwidth gives you the performance in games now long as it's not shader limited.

 

edit:  Updated the OP wiki pages. :)


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pauldh wrote :

There are more than two variations of the 384MB anyway.  Newegg alone, all 4 cards differed in clocks listed below.  Reference (if there is one) seems to be 550/1600 as more than one brand uses those exact clocks.

 

XFX 580/1400
XFX 680/1600
evga 550/1600
evga 650/1900

 

edit: Not sure about 768MB versions.

 

Yeah there are many versions depending on the supplier.  It seems Nvidia manufacturer specs are what I mentioned above which EVGA seemed to follow directions.


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