48** Series...Anytime Now...Who's buying?

I've been patiently waiting for this card series to come out so I can dump my 7900gs into my older pc. I've seen the benchmark for the 4870 and I'm sure everyone else has. Who else is looking into buying this too?

Well IF its a beast like im thinking it will be im going to be 100% getting one to replace my old tired 8800gt! I swear ATI better not mess this one up!

And this is how i came to realize how obsessed i became with pc hardware..I did the same thing when i had my car...Figured computer's would calm me down...Now i feel like my 8800gt is old and i need my fix...lol

The top of the line 4870 (not counting the X2) has 480/5=96 SPs vs 128 on the 8800GTS
1gb GDDR5 vs 512mb GDDR3 on the GTS
32 TMU vs ~56TMU
256 bit vs 256bit
16 ROP vs 24 ROP
I'll be surprised if the 4870 beats a 8800GTS

I need to say something like 50-100% increase over my 8800GT, which i know i probably wont get anytime soon.

I think any modern video card 8800gt and above will give me a ~500% increase (LOL) in performance over my 7900gs. I have a 20 widescreen 1680x1050 and the 256mb memory struggle at that res and holds back my e6750 clocked @ 3.5ghz.

I really doubt that. If you look at tomshardware vga charts, which has avariety of games and variety of resolutions and settings, with the overall all games framerate thing selected, the 8800gt is only a 81 percent boost.

2125.4 / 1172.9 = 1.812.

This means the 8800gt gets on average 81.2 percent more frames on games.

I have an x1950 pro. From what we've heard, the 4870 is supposed to be about as fast as the 3870x2, which is about 15% faster than the 8800ultra.

From my calculations, if all of these things are true, then the 4870 will be more than double the performance of my current card, which is what I try to look for before I upgrade.

But yeah, I think I'll be getting one. I'm pretty excited. Hopefully it lives up to its expectations. It'll be my first real high end card. So I'm pretty happy about that. It should last a while for me.



But yeah, I think the 256 on my card does hold me back a little at this res too. And I have an e6550 at 3.4Ghz. It's funny, we have pretty similar stuff.

im just **** pissed at myself for having bought the 9800gx2..... no one will buy my 9800gx2 from me... i want the new ati cards so badly, they are going to kick ass.

Open your mind royalcrown.
Just don't say things like that, UNTIL the 4800s come out.
Then we shall see

Well if it's supposed to be like $350, I'm pretty sure it'd at least be better than the 8800gts.

Hmmm... the ATI has said that 3800 and 4800 are middle range cards, so do not expect high end results, but 4800 should definitely be better than 3800 so, it should be nice card, although it can not be compared to g200 (if it will be released any time soon... and if 4800 is good, then we will see G200 soon enough.)
The saying that: "the 4870 is supposed to be about as fast as the 3870x2" is from ATI so it should be somewhat right. It's much more than I by my self am expecting it to be, because the differences between 3800 and 4800 series are not so big. Most likely 4870 can get near the results of 3870x2, because it's one chip solution, so there is not the scaling problem.
In titles where scaling is good, the 3870x2 will be better, and where the scaling is not so good, the 4870 will be better. In most cases where the scaling is even somewhat good the 3870x2 should be much faster.
It will be near 8800GTS I supose, then the price most propably is the thing that means a lot in that competition. First released parts are with GDDR3 because of low suply of GDDR5... So at the beginning, it's very close fight.

I'll wait for a game that I want to play that requires me to upgrade my 8800gt, so far it's handling all that I play now..

On XP @ 12 x 10

Crysis...np
COD4...sweet
Gears Of War..smooth and fast
Bioshock..flies
HL2 + eps + Portal, cards too good..
Trackmania, makes my head spin..

As I said, why upgrade if there're no games to upgrade to?

Apples to oranges comparison, different architectures

If 4870 1024 mb single gpu has a performance point higher than 9800 gtx/8800 ultra/other high end single gpu cards, then I would definitely consider it

Otherwise, its a money sink that will be outdated far too rapidly.

Here are some benchmarks.

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My first PC was a 286 @ 8 mhz with a built in CGA graphics.

I'm not upgrading until games make my gpu craw.

How do these German sites get it before US sites? I hope those benchmarks are true, but I just don't by the fact that this is a legitimate benchmark. I mean....show me a picture of the card...show me something that would make me believe you really have a tester.

Wise way to spend ones money.
Usually do the same myself, although new things are always tempting of course. Ohh pretty that! Hey, whats that feature do? Wow, how much after MIR? Hmm, bet I could turn up a few features/resolution...

Of course at 12x10 I thnk you'll be set well into the next gen when you can decide based on some solid longerterm use rather than the initial purchasers' speculation.

Just out of interest, whats it been like living with a quad crossfire setup? did cat.8.4 make any differences youve noticed?. Cat.8.5. should be out either this week or next, in your position would be interesting to watch this setup mature over time...

cheers

If this is supposed to be their new supercard, do you think they'll make an all in wonder version of it?

I haven't owned an ATI card Since my X800XT all in wonder, what ever happened to those? AIW cards were awesome, why don't they offer them anymore, I usually live by nvidia, but I'd cross the line for a powerful AIW card, but since AMD bought them I sorta lost faith in them alltogether, their new website is horrible, for a company that makes graphics card you'd think they would do something a little more "graphical"

I'm very skeptical of this 4870 since they have had a history of dissapointment lately
2900XT, 3800 series... nvidia just seems more polished and their drivers kick butt
I always compare the two when I upgrade and every time, since the X800XT nvidia has been on top

but hey i'm running a 7900gt and until my other one (SLI) died it was more than keeping up with the new games

I hope that:

*The 48xx ATI series is awesome....
*Meaning it plunges the prices of NVIDIA cards....
*Because I just bought a SLI rack (MSI P6N SLI Platinum) and would like to make use of it with NVIDIA.

I'm mildly ticked off that I bought my overclocked 3870x2 the first week of February and the 4870 will be out at the end of May. Nordic Hardware reports the 4870 will be 50% faster than the 3870, which is the speed of my card -- when Crossfire's recognized by a game.

I could have waited 4 months, but I didn't expect new ATI cards out before the holiday season.

I will replace my wife's 3850 with a 4850, but I'll wait till Deneb and a new motherboard to consider CrossfireX with a 4850 and the 3870x2 (they're both expected to be 850 megahertz clock, so they should match just fine for 3 GPU CrossfireX).

What resolution are you gaming at? I'm at 1280 x 1024 (CRT) and am a bit CPU limited. I'm moving my 4600+ to a 780G board next weekend so I can upgrade to a 95 watt 8750 and a 24" LCD in September, then I'll see if I'm still CPU limited.

What quad do you have? With two 3870x2's I'd think you'd not be CPU limited once you get to 24" resolutions, but see problems with anything below. It could also be that the CrossfireX drivers aren't mature.

woha there, x1800xt was slightly slower than a 7800gtx 512mb but those geforces were quite rare and so expensive as to be pointless even for a high end graphics card (they cost at the time 580 pounds in the u.k.) and the x1900xt not to mention xtx or x1950xtx were in another league altogether from the 7900gtx, maybe not soo much at launch but over time theyve aged alot better. Ive got a 2nd hand evga 7900gt but i soon wished id spent a bit more and got a x1900xt off ebay. If anything since getting interested in pcs at around the geforce 6/radeonx800 era it was nvidia who had the snazzy budget cards but couldn't compete at the very top with ati until the 8800gtx came out.

I probly will. just wait so I can compaire them to 8800GTS 512Mb

Because if either side knows enough about their competition's hardware then they can do last minute changes to improve their own performance (at the cost of yields or cost [more expensive memory, etc]) which then hurts them. There's no benifit to either AMD or nV to let anyone know in advance of being able to buy the hardware. A few times both companies have pushed last minute BIOS changes to update clocks, etc. Memory's harder to change, but adding 50mhz to core and memory at the cost of higher failure rate may be worth it to them.

They both used to paper launch the stuff, but now with availability at launch you don't want to give anyone a peak until you are ready to sell them.