EN8800GT cant overclock

Hello,

I have bought asus en8800GT (new modern) edition. same as TOP one just that it works with normal speed.
I have tryed to overclock it with RivaTuner but it doesnt detect my core speeds.

Whats wrong with it ?
I use new drivers (not beta ones) 169.25 running Win Vista 32 bit
it detects my Core temperature, but i cant change clocks =(
I would like to overclock it as Top one is
700/1750/1000

Thanks in advance

Reply to Jacky444

Anyone please

Reply to Jacky444

if you are using vista 64x theres your problem.... try atitool

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Reply to vegie

I'm using 32 bit x86

AtiTool doesnt detect core's eather. tryed it already.

Reply to Jacky444

Even Nvidia nTune doesnt detect my core speeds =( I cant modifily them there as well. such **** =(

Reply to Jacky444

yeah... i dont know what the problem is sorry.... at least your stock vid card beats my overclocked 3870 lol

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Reply to vegie

See if gpuz detects your card properly. If not, it may be defective.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Btw, in case you don't know, ASUSTek is based in Taiwan, with factories in mainland China. Not saying that Made In China is bad quality though. Make your own conclusion.

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Reply to dagger

Ye, I've noticed asus sucks. But cooling of this graphic card is realy nice.

I overclocked it once with smartdoc (Xp) to full, 750mhz engine 1900shader and 1200mhz memory (GPU-z showed 70gb/s bendwith) iddle temp was 55°C
fully loaded 75°C. But it was crashing like hell

Anyway GPU-z detects my graphic card normaly. I think its not foult of hardware or somthing. I dont know to be honest.

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Reply to Jacky444

Jacky444 wrote :

Ye, I've noticed asus sucks. But cooling of this graphic card is realy nice.

I overclocked it once with smartdoc (Xp) to full, 750mhz engine 1900shader and 1200mhz memory (GPU-z showed 70gb/s bendwith) iddle temp was 55°C
fully loaded 75°C. But it was crashing like hell

Anyway GPU-z detects my graphic card normaly. I think its not foult of hardware or somthing. I dont know to be honest.

Uninstall driver, run sweeper, and reinstall driver. See if it helps.
http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=driversweeper

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Reply to dagger

I just done that 5x :=(

Even Tryed with newest beta drivers 175.12

all same results, no control over speeds =(.
DAMN YOU >>> ASUS =(

Reply to Jacky444

Weird thing is, I didnt found anything like it on google or other forums =(

Reply to Jacky444

If you just got it, might as well rma it. Just tell them it's unstable on your system. Even if they test it and it powers on, they can't fully test for stability. Don't wait until rma period expires, because you may end up never be able to solve the problem.

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Reply to dagger

Problem is,
Nothing seems to be wrong with the card, If I could overclock it on Win Xp and on vista with asus smartdoctor.

But with smartdoctor i cant modifily core speeds exacly to some numbers. so i cant find any higher core speed witch would work normaly.

Thanks my major problem. Othervise i can overclock it normaly with SmartDoctor.

I would like to upgrade bios as well. But I got no idea how. I tryed that asus tool to update bios of card but it says "Cant recodnize card" or somthing like it.

Sory my english is rly bad, but i'm trying :$

Reply to Jacky444

It's still best to return it before the period runs out. Why do you need problems like this? You deserve a fully working product without... problems.

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Reply to dagger

True But Overclocking isnt rly allowed .

Anyway i have same problems with 2 8800GT's

I have changed this card few days ago reason was i thought its not working well. But problem was in my motherboard so.

My friend works for "Lancom" slovenian company (where i bought card) and he changed it without asking why and testing it. so as i said before i bet its not card problem =(

Reply to Jacky444

Go with the old 169 drivers, theyll be recognized and should work

Message edited by JAYDEEJOHN on 05-12-2008 at 02:56:45 AM

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

You might need to get a diffrent mobo, is there anything at all dectecting your 2 cards, or does it act like there not there at all ?

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Reply to blacksci

I got 1 card .
As i said my english is bad, I meent i changed 2 cards already.
First and 2nd time

anyway, SmartDoctor works fine with it. But i cant put exacly clock 700/1750/2000 with it. Only 1748 or 1754 what makes games crash =(

my mobo is p5b, i think that mobo is good for this stuff. atleast i dont got problems with overclocking rams & cpu

Reply to Jacky444

Anyway, Jay I use atm 169.21, still no luck in rivatuner =(

Reply to Jacky444

The clocks are set in small steps of 6 to 13 mhz, depending on card. So youll never get exactly 1750 . Have you tried device manager to see if your card is recognized there? If theres a question mark, click it and see whats going on from there, your hardware manager may help

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

Hold on Im looking up some info for riva tuner

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

OK, its too long for me to type it all out, but heres the link, this should do it http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=240343 Just change the cfg for the G92, just like in the link, if its the same, then theres other problems

Message edited by JAYDEEJOHN on 05-12-2008 at 10:20:52 AM

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

ok, thx. I'll try it out now.

any way for info. I wrote before I want to get my asus en8800GT with newest cooler they goot to frequency as TOP model has.

Mine is stock: 600/1500/1800
Top: 700/1750/2000

cards are the same as i know. I got same cooler on it. and both are the special models. So i think i should get it stable at same freq then TOp version is.

anyway. Going to try what u told me to =)

Reply to Jacky444

doesnt work . Riva Tuner still doesnt load up speeds =(

Reply to Jacky444

Hold on

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

Just to inform you. Now when i changed that, mine GPU-z doesnt even recodnize card's speeds any more

Reply to Jacky444

yeh sure, I got the time I'm glad you help me in this one.

Reply to Jacky444

Try using this. If this doesnt work, then maybe your other oc tool is messing things up. Heres the link http://www.evga.com/articles/405.asp This is a great tool. made from the same guy that makes rivatuner

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

Jay, I appriciate ur help.

Let me share some new infos I got from my pc.

After I Installed SmartDoctor and restarted compluter, GPU-z was able to read my core speed, textures fill rate, bendwith etc. but now. it doenst read them.

I guess there is somthing else wrong. Meybe drivers i'm using or somthing dunno. I totaly redownloaded 169.25 drivers, but no change.

Its so annoying but somthing weird is going on. Some times I can view core speed in GPU-z some not, riva doesnt seems to recodnize my card. but it detect's temperatures.

So weird =)

Anyway going to give a shot to software u gave me link.

Thanks for now =)

Reply to Jacky444

How's that u're giving me all links for EVGA version ?
I thought Asus's en8800GT is diffrent then Evga

but Idont know much about this.

Reply to Jacky444

YVW, good luck, hope it works

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

Update: Hardware monitor detect's my graphic card PERFECTLY, but when i wana overclock it, i cant change clock speed or modifily it, same problem as before.
I hope that helps a bit with research.

Reply to Jacky444

EVGA toool detect's my speed's but doesnt allow me to change it. :\

Reply to Jacky444

The tool works on all nVidia cards

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

Not the fans speed either? That other tool, dr whatever, may have somehow locked it in, and wont release it, can you disable it?

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

JAy !!!!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS I I had to install BETA drivers 175.24

now it **** works amazing THx a lot

I rly appriciate =) ... but i cant control fan speed
anyway dont need that.
Thanks a lot.

Reply to Jacky444

GREAT!!! Just watch those temps while youre ocing, and good gaming!!!

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

Thanks thanks

anyway here are results from 10 mins testing crysis:

FPS avarge: 32.21
FPS min: 27.32
FPS max: 39.54
Temperature: Max 71°C

Reply to Jacky444

Here picture of my graphic card =)
http://ds-upload.com/Download/Diff [...] 8800GT.jpg

Reply to Jacky444

27 min, thats playable, and nice temps too NICE

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

but still, i'm having problems games are crashing =(

Any ideas why ?
I'm running these speeds atm: 700/1750/2000

Same as TOP card is, but mine games are crashing =( why god, my lord why =(

Reply to Jacky444

Pushing the memory that high isnt good. Its probly a slower memory, sometimes oced cards have better memory on them. Drop back you oc a little bit, just by putting them there doesnt mean your card can do it. Also, you wont see that big a dropoff lowering them somewhat. Thats what ocing is all about, each card is different, and brings its own performance. See where your card is comfortable with your oc by trying adjusting things slowly, not all at once

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

I'm pretty much sure its not memory
GPU is making problems i guess. I've tryed with 1800 memory today, and it crashed anyway. so I'm guessing its gpu speed.

I'll try to find stable core, but since i cant use AtiTool this wont be easy =(

Reply to Jacky444

700/1750/2000 is most stable i can get.

In some games it crashes, but in some not. Usualy DirectX 9.0c games are crashing. DirectX 10 works fine. weird though.

Reply to Jacky444

Its either stable or not, if it crashes in any game then it isnt stable and in the long term you will damage your card.

That is very big overclock that very few 8800gt are likely to be good for, dont be surprised that yours cant take...it doesnt mean that there is anything wrong with it.

Reply to lameness

Updated:

NFS Pro street = crashes
Crysis = works fine
Cabal online (mmorpg) = refreshes screen every few secs
Company of heores opposin fronts= works fine
Assassin's creed = works fine
Sattlers 4 = works fine
Fifa 2008 = works fine
Counter Strike Source = works fine
Garry's mod 10 = works fine
soldier of fortune2 = works fine

Now tell me if this is normal ?

Reply to Jacky444

Id check your pro street for patches, or any other incompatabilities. Not familiar with the game tho, but it sounds game orientd to me, since all others are doing ok. The skipping from cabal could be internet related

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

xD. This graphic card is pwnage I can overclock it over 745mhz and core is still stable in crysis

memory doesnt wana go over 2000mhz =(

Reply to Jacky444

Its easy to fry your memory. It usually doesnt get the cooling the chip does. Thats still a good oc, just the memory , which isnt bad. It all depends on this, does it do what you want it to do in games? Ocing is fun, but pushing componants can get costly

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Reply to JAYDEEJOHN

Money isnt problem here =)

Reply to Jacky444

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