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My current build is:
CPU: AMD Atholon 64 x2 Dual Core Processore 4200+ (2.21 ghz) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103053
RAM: 2GB of DDR memory coaisar, im not sure what kind of DDR 1 gig sticks thou
MOBO: MSI MS-7125 (http://www.msicomputer.com/product [...] 4_platinum)
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817190012
CPU cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835106038 i hate this thing, loud and i dont think it works.
oh and best videocard ever...(not) an ATI x1800xl radeon :pt1cable:
and my tv tuner doesnt work with vista 64 bit, which im running.

 

should i upgrade the ram and videocard and wait it out till nahelm to make a big upgrade or should i buy this computer i configured.
CPU: Q6600 will OC to 3.2? if possible with my coooler. is it possible? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115017

cooling: ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835118019

HDD: 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive x2 Raid 0, western digital (i only trust WD, half superstition (never had a WD fail on me yet), half tradition)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136055

Case: LIAN LI PC-A70B Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112141

tv tuner: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1600 MCE 1183WB NSTC/ATSC/QAM/FM Tuner w/MCE Remote(White Box)PCI (i need a tv in college)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6815116010

PSU: Antec TruePower Quattro TPQ-1000 ATX12V / EPS12V 1000W Power Supply (the 850 costs more after rebates and i WILL do the rebates and make 150+ back) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371012

RAM: CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145194

motherboard: EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813188024

Videocard: EVGA 512-P3-N845-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) KO 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card x2 in SLI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130337

OS: Vista ultimate retail (so i can upgrade becasue i bough oem vista for my crap computer and now i cant resue, wish i bought retail :( )

cd drives: SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S203N x2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151154

 

2300 shipped is the cost of this build

 

what do you think i should do? i want to be able to play games in the future and my card just isnt cutting it. getting an 8800 gts is a waste with processore and ram bottlenecks? im running a 24in westinghouse. any thoughts appreciated


Message edited by dsr1205 on 04-29-2008 at 04:53:31 AM
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Why not an intermediate upgrade? Grab an Athlon x2 5000+ black edition and better cooler, AM2+ motherboard and 4 gb of ram as well as your new video card. Then you aren't spending all your money and can overclock the 5000 pretty decently. After that, if you decide to stay AMD you can go to the phenoms when/if they get better and you want to stick to AMD, or if you want to get the newer intel stuff, you've already got a good card and some memory, so you'd probably be able to sell the AMD stuff and get some of your money back. It's up to you.

Reply to ohiou_grad_06

I agree with the previous post, go with an X2 5000+ BE, OC it to around 3.2 (unlocked multi ftw), grab a new cooler, more RAM, and a new card. This should give you performance close to the build you want to do, while costing no more than $700 (depending on the gfx card you buy). BTW, there is no need for that 1000W PSU in that possible new build, that would be overkill. Unless you were running more than 2 high powered GPUs.

Reply to doomturkey

Here is what I'd do right now:

CPU - q6700 It has a 10 x multiplier so it'll OC easier to 3.2-3.6 gHz, which will be plenty of CPU for quite a while.

CPU HSF - Xigmatek s1283 CPU HSF. Going for $37 shipped at newegg and is one of the better coolers that you can buy. Most other coolers close to this one performance wise is about $20-35 more.

Mobo - DS3R/IP35 Pro/Asus p5k series of mobo's. All are around the $130 price (if you include MIR's). They all have great features and are priced well for a build like this. You could go with a x38 based mobo, if you would consider a Xfire setup. Maybe the new 48xx GPU's will be good, don't know yet, but should be out really soon.

GPU - At least the 8800gts (g92) 512mb card. You could go with a 3870x2, so you could have a bit better performance on the higher resolutions.

Memory - 2x2 gb's of Corsair/Crucial/G.Skill/Patriot/Adata memory modules. Get at least DDR2 800 mHz CAS 4 stuff. This will cover just about any OC on the CPU that it can handle (which would be no more than 400 FSB x 10 mulitplier = 4 ghz, which I'm not sure the q6700 can handle that). This would equate to 800mHz speed on the memory, which is right where you'd want to be.

Case - Antec 900/Cooler Master 690 at the least. Get whatever you like, but these 2 are good candidates and are priced around $100.

PSU - I'd go with at least a Corsair vx550w PSU. It has 41A on the 12V rails and is usually priced around $75-85 after MIR's. Another option to consider would be the Corsair tx750w PSU. It has 4 6+2 pin PCI-e adapters (which would be handy if you had 2 9800gtx's, each card needs 2 x 6 pin power connectors). It has been going for about $120 on newegg after MIR, so you can decide here. A good 500w PSU will handle any single GPU solution out there right now.

With DVD Burner and OS this should put you around the $1200-1500 price range, which is what I'd consider.

Another option is to stick with AMD and build an AMD AM2+ system. This wouldn't be as fast as the Intel build above, but would cost a bit less than the Intel build. If your interested in an AMD build, I could suggest a few things, but if your willing to spend $2,300 on your original build, I don't think your too concerned if I can save you a $100 or so on the Intel build above.

------------------------------ PSU Tiers
GPU Power
8800gtx w/e6600 OC'd will run on Antec 380w w/27A on 12v rail, PSU!!
Reply to lunyone

The 850w antec is cheaper after MIR. To help future proof the system im getting the pci express 2.0 board over slightly cheaper alternatives. im going sli caus its cheap and im also upgrading to the q6700 becasue it will be better for overclocking and is alredy pretty high. 2400 shipped and i honestly really like the build and will be happy reguardless oh what comes out in the future. what do you guys/gals think?

Reply to dsr1205

I wouldn't buy a new video card until the new ones come out in a few months. even if you don't buy one of the new ones it should drive down the prices of the others.

------------------------------ New Build : Intel Core i5 750 > Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P > 2x2GB GSkill 1600MHz CL7 1.65V > Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB >
Antec 300 Illusion > Asus 4850 512MB w/AM Cooler > Corsair 650HX > CM Hyper 212 Plus > Other: PII 940/Gigabyte 790GX/4850 1G

 

Reply to EXT64

EXT64 wrote :

I wouldn't buy a new video card until the new ones come out in a few months. even if you don't buy one of the new ones it should drive down the prices of the others.



i can wait till the end of july. is it worth the wait?

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