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April 29, 2008 7:48:55 PM

Newegg link:
http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWish...

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COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: CAC-T05-WW
Item #: N82E16811119077

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In Stock
$59.99 $59.99

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ASUS P5N-D LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: P5N-D
Item #: N82E16813131232

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

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$146.99 $146.99

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PALiT NE/960TSX0202 GeForce 9600GT SONIC 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #: NE/960TSX0202
Item #: N82E16814261013

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$189.99 $189.99

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COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RP-550-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 550W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: RP-550-PCAR
Item #: N82E16817171016

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$69.99 $69.99

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Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
Model #: BX80562Q6600
Item #: N82E16819115017

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$219.99 $219.99

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Patriot Extreme Performance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC24G6400ELK - Retail
Model #: PDC24G6400ELK
Item #: N82E16820220227

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$86.99 $86.99

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Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: ST3250410AS
Item #: N82E16822148262

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$64.99 $129.98

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Acer AL2216Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP support - Retail
Model #: ET.2216B.0D0
Item #: N82E16824009094

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$249.99 -$30.00 Instant $219.99

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ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T - Retail
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Item #: N82E16827135156

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Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail
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Item #: N82E16829102002

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$29.99 $29.99
Subtotal: $1,189.89


If anyone have any suggestions to a different but better brand or any cheaper parts please recommend. Or if you see a flaw in the system ex. power isn't enough for the system please make a suggestion! thanks!

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April 29, 2008 8:09:27 PM

The Patriot memory is out of stock. If the ETA is correct, you won't be able to get in on the mail-in rebate.

Since you're going with a 22" monitor, I don't think going SLI is worth the extra money. Get a cheaper P35 board, upgrade to an 8800GTS, and change the PSU to a Corsair 550VX.

Unless you have speakers that will actually be using 7.1, I would hold off on purchasing the sound card and see how the onboard 5.1 sound works for you.
April 29, 2008 8:11:40 PM

I don't like the CoolerMaster PSU. I'd get this instead:

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS ATX12V / EPS12V 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010

or this:
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX ATX12V / EPS12V 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&Tpk=650TX


The mobo supports SLI. If you intend to add a second card, it's a good choice. If not, you could save some cash and get a GA-P35-DS3L.

The video card: add $25, you get twice the stream processors and a free Witcher game.
MSI NX8800GTS 512M OC GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127325

The 1GB version of the 9600GT is a bit weird - why add so much RAM if the card itself is not even high-end. It won't help as much as you expect.

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April 29, 2008 8:31:16 PM

I agree with the above two posters on PSU, GPU, and motherboards.
April 29, 2008 8:40:00 PM

Me too.
April 29, 2008 8:46:49 PM

oushi said:
The Patriot memory is out of stock. If the ETA is correct, you won't be able to get in on the mail-in rebate.

Since you're going with a 22" monitor, I don't think going SLI is worth the extra money. Get a cheaper P35 board, upgrade to an 8800GTS, and change the PSU to a Corsair 550VX.

Unless you have speakers that will actually be using 7.1, I would hold off on purchasing the sound card and see how the onboard 5.1 sound works for you.


aevm said:
I don't like the CoolerMaster PSU. I'd get this instead:

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS ATX12V / EPS12V 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010

or this:
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX ATX12V / EPS12V 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&Tpk=650TX


The mobo supports SLI. If you intend to add a second card, it's a good choice. If not, you could save some cash and get a GA-P35-DS3L.

The video card: add $25, you get twice the stream processors and a free Witcher game.
MSI NX8800GTS 512M OC GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127325

The 1GB version of the 9600GT is a bit weird - why add so much RAM if the card itself is not even high-end. It won't help as much as you expect.


The GA-P35-DS3L doesn't have the Raid support that I need. Is there even that much of a difference between nonraid and Raid 0 for loading games?

No, I'm not going to SLI but isn't the newer generation 9600GT better? it has higher core and clock speed?
April 29, 2008 8:51:06 PM

I think the gigabyte P35 DS3R has raid right? maybe you should look at that.. anyway don't save on the PSU and GPU... buy a 8800GT or 8800GTS(512) and a decent powersupply. OCZ, Corsair... you won't be dissapointed. anyway, with the Q6600 you can overclock it to 3,0ghz @ stock voltage which shouldnt be a problem on that motherboard aswell :) 
April 29, 2008 8:52:09 PM

OK, if you want RAID look at GA-EP35-DS3R, or the equivalents from Asus and aBit. RAID is really not necessary for gaming, IMO, but feel free to try it if you want. Just make sure you back up often if using RAID 0. You need more than two hard disks for the safer kinds of RAID. There's a good article on RAID at wikipedia, btw.

No, the 9600GT is not better than the 8800GTS 512MB. It has only 64 stream processors, instead of 128, and that makes a big difference. The higher clocks compensate for some of it, but not all.

April 29, 2008 8:52:10 PM

^Yes. The DS3R has RAID.
April 29, 2008 9:15:15 PM

radium69 said:
I think the gigabyte P35 DS3R has raid right? maybe you should look at that.. anyway don't save on the PSU and GPU... buy a 8800GT or 8800GTS(512) and a decent powersupply. OCZ, Corsair... you won't be dissapointed. anyway, with the Q6600 you can overclock it to 3,0ghz @ stock voltage which shouldnt be a problem on that motherboard aswell :) 

Will OC'in tear my Proc apart? I've always been afraid of OC'in
aevm said:
OK, if you want RAID look at GA-EP35-DS3R, or the equivalents from Asus and aBit. RAID is really not necessary for gaming, IMO, but feel free to try it if you want. Just make sure you back up often if using RAID 0. You need more than two hard disks for the safer kinds of RAID. There's a good article on RAID at wikipedia, btw.

No, the 9600GT is not better than the 8800GTS 512MB. It has only 64 stream processors, instead of 128, and that makes a big difference. The higher clocks compensate for some of it, but not all.

Ok, I plan on using this computer to host a WoW Server also ExileWoW.co.nr currently running on this crappy laptop. So do you think I should get raid now? Also the GA-EP35-DS3R is only about 20 bucks lower but I trust ASUS more than GB partly because I've used that brand for such a long time. But ASUS also have SLI maybe I could get another gfx card later when the prices go down.
April 29, 2008 9:36:47 PM

You need Better PSU
8800GTS (512MB) is much better than GT 9600
nforce chipset mobos has some issues and P35 mobos are outdated now
I prefer X38 or better X48 chipset mobos


April 29, 2008 9:41:17 PM

kad said:
You need Better PSU
8800GTS (512MB) is much better than GT 9600
nforce chipset mobos has some issues and P35 mobos are outdated now
I prefer X38 or better X48 chipset mobos

any specific recommendations?
April 29, 2008 9:46:01 PM

kad said:
You need Better PSU
8800GTS (512MB) is much better than GT 9600
nforce chipset mobos has some issues and P35 mobos are outdated now
I prefer X38 or better X48 chipset mobos

Define outdated. It's only been about a year. X48 is overkill imo, esp. since Nehalm is just around the corner.
April 29, 2008 9:50:35 PM

@OP: Unless you are doing some pretty hard core WoW web serving a normal 7200.11 HDDs have more than enough speed. You will probably be more limited through your DSL/cable connection than any thing else for hosting games. Also is this a dedicated server only or do you plan on gaming on it too?
April 29, 2008 11:04:47 PM

Shadow703793 said:
@OP: Unless you are doing some pretty hard core WoW web serving a normal 7200.11 HDDs have more than enough speed. You will probably be more limited through your DSL/cable connection than any thing else for hosting games. Also is this a dedicated server only or do you plan on gaming on it too?

both dedicated server and gaming. I am hosting a WoW server not a website. You can play WoW on it as in create an account and play
April 30, 2008 12:15:40 AM

^In that case RAID makes sense. Along with a pretty good GPU. A 9600 would be more than enough. Do make sure you have enough network bandwidth.
April 30, 2008 6:48:33 PM

Shadow703793 said:
Define outdated. It's only been about a year. X48 is overkill imo, esp. since Nehalm is just around the corner.


Exactly as you said
P35 mobos are more or less one year old
X38 mobo could be a well balance
April 30, 2008 6:51:43 PM

By the way
With same price you can get 8800GTS(512MB) Graphic card
I think 550W PSU is not enough
Let Shadow confirm
April 30, 2008 6:53:53 PM

^ With Nehalem just over the horizon, the X48 chipset can be considered just as "outdated" as P35. The former has a few bells and whistles over the latter, but none of it really makes much of a difference right now besides the higher FSB. By the time it does make a big difference, the new socket will be out and all 775 mobos would be obsolete.
April 30, 2008 6:55:21 PM

RAID makes sense now...

A Corsair 550VX PSU would do nicely for a system with a Q6600 and an 8800GTS.
April 30, 2008 7:51:13 PM

^Agreed. 500W is more than enough. Make sure you get a good quality PSU (ie. Corsair or PP&C) see:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10...
for PSU tire listing.

oushi said:
^ With Nehalem just over the horizon, the X48 chipset can be considered just as "outdated" as P35. The former has a few bells and whistles over the latter, but none of it really makes much of a difference right now besides the higher FSB. By the time it does make a big difference, the new socket will be out and all 775 mobos would be obsolete.

Exactly. There is no need for X48. May be X38/P35.
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