4800 Series not coming out until June-July!

Well i would have liked them to be released early but meh..Now GT200 going to be released first..What a surprise!

But good thing is at least they will be priced below 300 4870 may even be at or below 200! Cool...but i cant help but wonder what nvidia is doing?...Hmm im down to buy from either company!

I'll wait till Octoberish and pick up the card with the best price/performance, by then demand should be down and stock up.

Hope the 48** turns out good, Ive been cheering for ATI for years now. And after the 9800 discrace I really don't want to give Nvidia my buisness.

Where in the world did you get this info from? Please, let me know. What might happen is that we are gonna get RV770PRO with GDDR3 May 31st then the real RV770XT in Late June-July
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7700.html

So wats the msrp of the 9900gtx?

dONT ASk, OH BTW i SAW where you got the article, right here on Toms, duh. These cards look like they'll dissapoint. I was really hoping on the advent of a 1GB framebuffer, a useful one dammit, but I guess we'll still have to wait.

you mean it isnt that bad IF its 30-40% faster than the 9800GX2

Could you please point me to one of those GT200s that's available right now?

Until they launch or at least release to reviewers and pre-order, I wouldn't bet on which is first.

even then its still a waste. The G92 GTS is much better

Yes, I'll get a 4870x2 in the fall, can't afford one until then. I do wish I'd known back in February. I would have held off on the 3870x2 (that's why I can't afford one in June).

While I hope it gives G200 a run for it's money, I know that AVIVO is better than Pure Cinema and I do more than just play games.

I think 512 megs is a bit low nowadays. Perhaps they should have stuck with GDDR3 and gone 1 gig on the 4850 and 4870 and 2 gigs on the 4870x2?

Nvidia's CEO also doesn't like dual GPU cards. So, I was surprised at the 9800gx2 to begin with. If they come out with a dual GPU card, it should be single PCB, otherwise they're really missing an opportunity to innovate.

ASUS had an interesting part with the 3850x2 and I'd kind of hoped more companies would go that route because there needs to be a 4850x2 too. Why the need? To gain developer acceptance of a future dual core GPU and to get more and better Crossfire support across the board.

Maybe I'm the loner in thinking that $500 to $600 monster GPU's that replace Prescotts as the way to heat your house with a computer are dinosaurs that need to get hit by a big rock out of the blue?

Intel innovated by going back to Pentium 3/M designs for the C2D. AMD innovates for servers with K Whatever a Phenom is (9.5, 10?). ATI innovates with DX10.1 and single PCB dual GPU cards.

I don't see Nvidia innovating all that much except in naming schemes that make very slight variations on existing cards seem like the best new thing.

Makes me want to paraphrase The Hitchhiker's Guide's comment on what happens to the Sirius Cybernetics Marketing Department when the revolution comes. LOL

It would be close to 3870 x2 but not beat it.

9800gtx isn't worth it because G92GTS is just as good for much lower price and less noise and heat.

GT200 looks maybe too expensive for me while RV770 would within USD$ 349

Heres my prediction short and sweet.
The ATI cards will be good performers,be released at a reasonable pricepoint and at the topend will out perform anything Nvidia currantly has easilly. Between 20-40% above a G92 GTS.
Thats my colours nailed to the mast
Mactronix

Well Im not going to hold you to it (unless you have some kind of uncanny power over Hector) but I sure hope youre right

Ive heard from 330^2 and larger for the die, so at that size itd be a burner. Even at 55nm its going to draw like crazy, so a X2 seems rather hard to do til 45 or even 40 comes along, which wont be til next year, maybe 45 by the end of this year

Sounds about right.

I'd add, my prediction that if the GT200 is what everyone expected as a G100 that it will outperform the top single chip HD4K of it's time, but also be more expensive.
The interesting thing will be the price/performance ratio again, and also the performance/transistor ratio as well.

A little dissapointing we won't get something more akin to the previous R700 rumours though, I would've liked a far more modular chip and makes alot more sense, but of course, not privy to the design issues. Probably still early for multi-die solutions, R7X2 sounds like it's laying the groundwork though.

Anywhoo, should be an interesting summer launch season. Now I'm just hoping that AMD can get those RV770s in some flavour into some laptops by the fall. Unlikely a GT200 will ever see itself there in anywhere near the same shape it would launch. I'd love an HD4850 style chip in an HDX.

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AM [...] /5777.html

Launch date June 18 and 25th

psssst, wack , no where above 800, yea, this is gonna suck, all the hype is going away, this is going to be a budget series, cept for the X2.

Last summer when i built my gaming rig, the g80's were all shinny and new, but i couldn't justify paying $600 for an 8800GTX or $450 for a GTS. Then all of a sudden the 320 came out and it was the undisputed price/perf king until the 8800gt came in out in fall.

I could easily see a repeat situation here, except that the red team will be aiming its cards at that $300 segment, where as Nvidia has been trying to outdo the 8800GTX for the last year...

No one knows yet.

There was mention of improved colour support (IMO that means SOME Deep colour [probably just add 12bit, likely not 16bit] portion of the HDMI 1.3 format), but they only mention 7.1 audio, not whether or not that includes loseless. It may offer LPCM 7.1 support without DD-THD or DTS-HD-MA, but no one has mentioned it yet.

BTW, 7.1 TrueHD is part of the original 1.3, but optional in all versions.

You can still doi HDMI to Receiver, but yet you are currently limited to compressed 7.1 and 5.1 DD, DTS, and 2 ch LCPM.

It'll be interesting to see what they implement in the new spec, but lossless is unlike to be able to be carried over the DVI->HDMI connector, so it' will likely be limited to HDMI jack equipped models of the RV770.

Should be nice, and also for the laptops it would be good since most now ship with the HDMI adapter built-in. It's definitely extra circuitry that most people won't use (heck most still can't figure out how to get their HD2/3K series working), but it would be nice to have all the basic HDMI 1.3 options to allow for a nice HTPC solution.

if its close to the 3870 x2 without the bugs then I think it'd be a great contender at its price point.

If it is like 200$ a card then you could crossfire them and probably get a pretty good bang for the buck compared to other dual gpu arrays

Well, i'd hope so anyways.

looks like the 4850 is 25 % faster than the 8800gt.and the 4870 is also 25%fasterthan the 9800gtx and the 4870 should be as fast if not faster than thecurrent 3870x2.pretty nice for the start.but the gt200 is sure gonna get the performance crown again

but what would the gt200 deliver.there is no chance they would be putting anything less powerful than a 9800gtx.i have another thought too.if this preview was done in DX10,what would be the results in DX10.1 in vista SP1?as earlier reported,the hd3800s gain from 20-30% boost.how would that factor in?

Sounds about right with spec rumors.